Re: Help me in this please--is Python the answer?

2006-01-13 Thread Adrian Holovaty
Ray wrote: > Does the comparison between dynamic and static language carry over to > comparison between Django and Turbogear too? Is this what is meant by > "Turbogear is much more flexible than Django"? Nah, the difference is more than Django is a complete product whereas TurboGears is a collecti

Re: Help me in this please--is Python the answer?

2006-01-13 Thread Ray
Fredrik Lundh wrote: > I hope you're aware that this sounds a lot like late 90's anti-dynamic- > language propaganda... > > "I would never use Perl or Python over C++ for any performance- > "intensive Web app. In my opinion, both languages make some > poor design decisions regarding th

Re: Help me in this please--is Python the answer?

2006-01-13 Thread Fredrik Lundh
Adrian Holovaty wrote: > I would never use TurboGears or Ruby on Rails over Django for any > performance-intensive Web app. In my opinion, both frameworks make some > poor design decisions regarding the importance of performance. I hope you're aware that this sounds a lot like late 90's anti-dyna

Re: Help me in this please--is Python the answer?

2006-01-13 Thread Ray
bruno at modulix wrote: > Possibly - but if a programmer is not able to pick on Python in a matter > of days, then it's a bad programmer that won't be of any help whatever > the language. So in fact, choosing Python may help you get better > programmers !-) You have a point there! :) > You may a

Re: Help me in this please--is Python the answer?

2006-01-12 Thread Ray
Very useful input, Adrian. Thanks a lot! These are facts that I can use to convince people that Python is a legit choice for the app I'm developing. Warm regards, Ray Adrian Holovaty wrote: > Ray wrote: > > Yes, but this is more of a web application though--something that I've > > never develop

Re: Help me in this please--is Python the answer?

2006-01-12 Thread Aahz
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tim N. van der Leeuw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >- Do you have to interface with things like messaging-systems (a la JMS >specs), distributed transaction managers? If so, the only way to go >Python is Jython: Python for the JVM. Because AFAIK, there are no >interfa

Re: Help me in this please--is Python the answer?

2006-01-12 Thread Adrian Holovaty
Ray wrote: > Yes, but this is more of a web application though--something that I've > never developed in Python before, so... I'll be evaluating Django > shortly--let me see how it compares to Tomcat. Performance is one of the key features of Django. For example, I'm using Django at washingtonpost

Re: Help me in this please--is Python the answer?

2006-01-12 Thread bruno at modulix
Ray wrote: (snip) > But then on the other hand, there is a manpower problem--it's damn easy > to find a Java programmer (although the quality that you get is a > different matter). Python programmers are more difficult. Possibly - but if a programmer is not able to pick on Python in a matter of d

Re: Help me in this please--is Python the answer?

2006-01-12 Thread Ray
Tim N. van der Leeuw wrote: > Hi Ray, Hi Tim! > I'm in a bit of the same boat as you only I don't get to choose my > implementation language ;-) > > Some of the concerns should be: > - Do you have to interface with things like messaging-systems (a la JMS > specs), distributed transaction manager

Re: Help me in this please--is Python the answer?

2006-01-12 Thread Ray
Hi Ed, Ed Singleton wrote: > Personally I have found that if you need to sell a technology on, > saying it's written in Java is an advantage generally (because "it's a > standard"). If it's written in Python you may get asked why it has > been written in a "scripting language" if they've heard of

Re: Help me in this please--is Python the answer?

2006-01-12 Thread Ed Singleton
On 11 Jan 2006 17:54:05 -0800, Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > I've got the chance to determine the technology to use in creating a > product similar to this: > > http://www.atomicisland.com/ > > Now the thing is that I need to sell this to the guy with the money. > I've developed for y

Re: Help me in this please--is Python the answer?

2006-01-12 Thread Tim N. van der Leeuw
Hi Ray, I'm in a bit of the same boat as you only I don't get to choose my implementation language ;-) Some of the concerns should be: - Do you have to interface with things like messaging-systems (a la JMS specs), distributed transaction managers? If so, the only way to go Python is Jython: Pyth

Help me in this please--is Python the answer?

2006-01-11 Thread Ray
Hello, I've got the chance to determine the technology to use in creating a product similar to this: http://www.atomicisland.com/ Now the thing is that I need to sell this to the guy with the money. I've developed for years with C++ and Java, last 7 years J2EE, and I'm kinda sick of the "bloated