Re: Problem in IDLE setup

2015-08-05 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 04/08/2015 12:31, Ahsan Chauhan wrote: Respected Sir/Madam, I would like to bring it to your notice that IDLE's executable file is not working properly in Python3.5.0. So please look into this. Regards Ahsan Chauhan Please state exactly what you're tried to do, what you expected to happen,

Problem in IDLE setup

2015-08-05 Thread Ahsan Chauhan
Respected Sir/Madam, I would like to bring it to your notice that IDLE's executable file is not working properly in Python3.5.0. So please look into this. Regards Ahsan Chauhan -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python 3.4 Idle?

2015-07-26 Thread Terry Reedy
On 7/23/2015 9:28 PM, Steve Burrus wrote: Listen I got back the Idle EAditor the other day but I had to install the older, version 2.7, version of Python to get it. So naturally I w onder if I can get Idle for version 3.4.*? Yes, just install 3.4.3. -- Terry Jan Reedy -- https

Re: Python 3.4 Idle?

2015-07-25 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 24/07/2015 02:50, Steve Burrus wrote: On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 8:41:03 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Steve Burrus wrote: I got Idle the other day biut had to get the older version, 2.7, of python to get it. So I wonder if there is an Idle version

Re: Python 3.4 Idle?

2015-07-25 Thread Irmen de Jong
On 25-7-2015 18:00, Steve Burrus wrote: > On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 8:50:47 PM UTC-5, Steve Burrus wrote: >> On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 8:41:03 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote: >>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Steve Burrus >>> wrote: >>>> I got

Re: Python 3.4 Idle?

2015-07-25 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Sat, 25 Jul 2015 09:00:18 -0700, Steve Burrus writes: >On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 8:50:47 PM UTC-5, Steve Burrus wrote: >> On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 8:41:03 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote: >> > On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Steve Burrus >> &g

Re: Python 3.4 Idle?

2015-07-25 Thread Steve Burrus
On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 8:50:47 PM UTC-5, Steve Burrus wrote: > On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 8:41:03 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Steve Burrus > > wrote: > > > I got Idle the other day biut had to get the older version, 2.7,

Re: Python 3.4 Idle?

2015-07-23 Thread Steve Burrus
On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 8:41:03 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Steve Burrus > wrote: > > I got Idle the other day biut had to get the older version, 2.7, of python > > to get it. So I wonder if there is an Idle version that comes wi

Re: Python 3.4 Idle?

2015-07-23 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Steve Burrus wrote: > I got Idle the other day biut had to get the older version, 2.7, of python to > get it. So I wonder if there is an Idle version that comes with python 3.4.*? What system are you on? What did you do to install Python? On Window

Python 3.4 Idle?

2015-07-23 Thread Steve Burrus
I got Idle the other day biut had to get the older version, 2.7, of python to get it. So I wonder if there is an Idle version that comes with python 3.4.*? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Python 3.4 Idle?

2015-07-23 Thread Steve Burrus
Listen I got back the Idle EAditor the other day but I had to install the older, version 2.7, version of Python to get it. So naturally I w onder if I can get Idle for version 3.4.*? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python 3.5.0b3(64 bit) - idle refused to work on windows 7 desktop pc.

2015-07-11 Thread Terry Reedy
tel 64 bit pc. Kind regards Simon Ball Luton Bedfordshire UK Please state exactly what you did to try and run the program, e.g. click on a desktop shortcut or something on the start menu, or what you typed at the command line prompt. And whether python itself runs without Idle. -- Terry

Re: Python 3.5.0b3(64 bit) - idle refused to work on windows 7 desktop pc.

2015-07-11 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 11/07/2015 10:06, Simon Ball wrote: Good morning, Everything else appeared to work though. Kept getting the windows 'donut' telling me it was doing something, but then the program did not appear. Windows 7 Home Premium Service Pack 1 intel 64 bit pc. Kind regards Simon Ball Luton Bedfordsh

Python 3.5.0b3(64 bit) - idle refused to work on windows 7 desktop pc.

2015-07-11 Thread Simon Ball
Good morning, Everything else appeared to work though. Kept getting the windows 'donut' telling me it was doing something, but then the program did not appear. Windows 7 Home Premium Service Pack 1 intel 64 bit pc. Kind regards Simon Ball Luton Bedfordshire UK -- Using Opera's mail client: h

Re: Idle Not Working.

2015-07-08 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Wed, 08 Jul 2015 15:36:50 -0700, sohcahto...@gmail.com writes: >Oops. I usually do, but for some reason Google Groups didn't this time. My >apologies. This isn't google groups. And this may be your problem. Do not include such things as attatchments which may get removed. Inc

Re: Idle Not Working.

2015-07-08 Thread sohcahtoa82
On Wednesday, July 8, 2015 at 2:12:29 PM UTC-7, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 08/07/2015 19:44, sohcahto...@gmail.com wrote: > > Help us help you. "every time I try to bring up Idle I cannot" does not > > tell us the problem. > > > > Do you get error messages?

Re: Idle Not Working.

2015-07-08 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 08/07/2015 22:15, Chris Angelico wrote: On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 7:12 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: Would you please be kind enough to quote context when replying. Pythonistas might be smart, but apart from myself and Steven D'Aprano I'm not aware of anyone who can read minds. Thank you. Hey! I'

Re: Idle Not Working.

2015-07-08 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 2:57 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 7/8/2015 2:07 PM, Steve Burrus wrote: >> Now I am using both 32 and 64 bit versions of Idle > > There are no such things. Idle is python code that runs on whatever version > of Python you have. As far as I know, you can

Re: Idle Not Working.

2015-07-08 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 7:12 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > Would you please be kind enough to quote context when replying. Pythonistas > might be smart, but apart from myself and Steven D'Aprano I'm not aware of > anyone who can read minds. Thank you. Hey! I'm right here... ChrisA -- https://mail.

Re: Idle Not Working.

2015-07-08 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 08/07/2015 19:44, sohcahto...@gmail.com wrote: Help us help you. "every time I try to bring up Idle I cannot" does not tell us the problem. Do you get error messages? What do they say? Would you please be kind enough to quote context when replying. Pythonistas might be

Re: Idle Not Working.

2015-07-08 Thread Terry Reedy
On 7/8/2015 2:07 PM, Steve Burrus wrote: I need some deg4ree of help w ith the Idle Python Editor. I am using 64 bit win 10 beta preview I am waiting for MS to install the activate the actual release on my personal machine. > and every time that I try to bring up Idle I cannot! Does pyt

Re: Idle Not Working.

2015-07-08 Thread sohcahtoa82
Help us help you. "every time I try to bring up Idle I cannot" does not tell us the problem. Do you get error messages? What do they say? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Idle Not Working.

2015-07-08 Thread Steve Burrus
I need some deg4ree of help w ith the Idle Python Editor. I am using 64 bit win 10 beta preview and every time that I try to bring up Idle I cannot! Now I am using both 32 and 64 bit versions of Idle [for some reason] Can someone please help me with this? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: Should iPython Notebook replace Idle

2015-07-04 Thread Sayth Renshaw
On Sunday, 5 July 2015 05:16:04 UTC+10, Sturla Molden wrote: > Jason Swails wrote: > > > Everything gets swallowed into Python. I can't imagine this ever happening. > > IPython's successor Jupyter is also an REPL environment for Julia and R, > and many other languages will also be supported (e

Re: Should iPython Notebook replace Idle

2015-07-04 Thread Sturla Molden
Jason Swails wrote: > Everything gets swallowed into Python. I can't imagine this ever happening. IPython's successor Jupyter is also an REPL environment for Julia and R, and many other languages will also be supported (e.g. Java and C++). Having this swallowed into Python is probably never go

Re: Should iPython Notebook replace Idle

2015-07-03 Thread Jason Swails
On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 10:01 PM, Sayth Renshaw wrote: > In future releases of Python should ipython Notebooks replace idle as the > default tool for new users to learn python? > This would as I see it have many benefits? > > 1. A nicer more usual web interface for new users. &

Should iPython Notebook replace Idle

2015-07-03 Thread Sayth Renshaw
In future releases of Python should ipython Notebooks replace idle as the default tool for new users to learn python? This would as I see it have many benefits? 1. A nicer more usual web interface for new users. 2. Would allow the python documentation and tutorials to be distributed as ipython

Re: IDLE Restoration

2015-05-08 Thread Terry Reedy
On 5/8/2015 11:26 AM, subhabrata.bane...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Group, In many applications there is a facility to restore its previous sessions, especially if they close accidentally. Does IDLE have any such facility? No. You are prompted to close unsaved files. Filenames are saved in

Re: IDLE Restoration

2015-05-08 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 5:12 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > Chris Angelico wrote: > >> […] Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn […] wrote: >>> Chris Angelico wrote: >>>> Are you hoping to have the IDLE editor restore the fact that you had >&

Re: IDLE Restoration

2015-05-08 Thread Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
Chris Angelico wrote: > […] Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn […] wrote: >> Chris Angelico wrote: >>> Are you hoping to have the IDLE editor restore the fact that you had >>> files X, Y, and Z open, or are you hoping to have the interactive >>> interpreter re

Re: IDLE Restoration

2015-05-08 Thread Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
Chris Angelico wrote: > Are you hoping to have the IDLE editor restore the fact that you had > files X, Y, and Z open, or are you hoping to have the interactive > interpreter retain your entire history of commands and their results? > The former is reasonably plausible (and may well

Re: IDLE Restoration

2015-05-08 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 2:06 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > Chris Angelico wrote: > >> Are you hoping to have the IDLE editor restore the fact that you had >> files X, Y, and Z open, or are you hoping to have the interactive >> interpreter retain your en

Re: IDLE Restoration

2015-05-08 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 1:26 AM, wrote: > In many applications there is a facility to restore its previous sessions, > especially if they close accidentally. > > Does IDLE have any such facility? > If it is there, how may I use it? > > If someone may kindly suggest it. Ge

IDLE Restoration

2015-05-08 Thread subhabrata . banerji
Dear Group, In many applications there is a facility to restore its previous sessions, especially if they close accidentally. Does IDLE have any such facility? If it is there, how may I use it? If someone may kindly suggest it. Regards, Subhabrata Banerjee. -- https://mail.python.org

Re: The idle gui

2015-03-14 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 12:04 AM, Dave Angel wrote: > I wasn't actually trying to pick on the OP this time, but to make a joke. > Idle could be taken two ways (if it weren't for the capitalization), or even > three (My Chevy won't idle.). Beware the Idles of

Re: The idle gui

2015-03-14 Thread Dave Angel
's even a car. Maybe "it" is a son who refuses to get a job. In the OP's defense, we were at least told that the "idle gui" was the thing that didn't work. So unless you named your son "gui", we can safely assume that this isn't the case :)

Re: The idle gui

2015-03-14 Thread Terry Reedy
either case, what version of python and what platform? Then the idle gui stopped opening. How are you trying to open Idle? When happens when you try? In any case, try opening from a command line with 'python -m idlelib' (or idlelib.idle on 2.7 or before). > I have reinstalled

Re: The idle gui

2015-03-14 Thread Rustom Mody
w what make and model the vehicle > > is. Or whether it's even a car. Maybe "it" is a son who refuses to get a > > job. > > In the OP's defense, we were at least told that the "idle gui" was the > thing that didn't work. So unless you named yo

Re: The idle gui

2015-03-14 Thread Chris Angelico
it" is a son who refuses to get a > job. In the OP's defense, we were at least told that the "idle gui" was the thing that didn't work. So unless you named your son "gui", we can safely assume that this isn't the case :) ChrisA -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: The idle gui

2015-03-14 Thread Dave Angel
On 03/13/2015 09:24 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: sohcahto...@gmail.com wrote: We need more information than just "It doesn't work". You wouldn't go to a car mechanic and say "It makes a funny noise", would you? No. Actually, most likely yes.It's remarkably hard to describe noises, and often

Re: The idle gui

2015-03-13 Thread Steven D'Aprano
sohcahto...@gmail.com wrote: > We need more information than just "It doesn't work". You wouldn't go to > a car mechanic and say "It makes a funny noise", would you? No. Actually, most likely yes.It's remarkably hard to describe noises, and often difficult to pin-point where they come from. My

Re: The idle gui

2015-03-13 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 13/03/2015 20:58, lmzent...@gmail.com wrote: My python program was running for over six weeks. Then the idle gui stopped opening. I have reinstalled several times but it doesn't work. Any idea? Would you please read http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html and possibly

Re: The idle gui

2015-03-13 Thread sohcahtoa82
On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 1:58:44 PM UTC-7, lmze...@gmail.com wrote: > My python program was running for over six weeks. Then the idle gui stopped > opening. I have reinstalled several times but it doesn't work. Any idea? Not trying to be rude here, but do you really think we&#x

The idle gui

2015-03-13 Thread lmzentman
My python program was running for over six weeks. Then the idle gui stopped opening. I have reinstalled several times but it doesn't work. Any idea? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Idle - ImportError: No module named numpy

2015-03-09 Thread Tim Golden
without errors. >> >> But when I run the same command on idle3 the following error appears. >> >>>>> import numpy as np >> Traceback (most recent call last): >>File "", line 1, in >> import numpy as np >> ImportError: No

Re: Idle - ImportError: No module named numpy

2015-03-09 Thread Dave Angel
ort numpy as np Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in import numpy as np ImportError: No module named numpy How configure idle to load the numpy module? Thanks, Markos You asked the exact same question 3 days ago on python-tutor, with four replies. Please

Idle - ImportError: No module named numpy

2015-03-09 Thread Markos
ecent call last): File "", line 1, in import numpy as np ImportError: No module named numpy How configure idle to load the numpy module? Thanks, Markos -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Running Idle on Windows 8 (.1)

2015-02-25 Thread Ian Kelly
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 6:29 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 2/24/2015 3:13 PM, blakemal...@gmail.com wrote: > >> I too can not get idle to run on win 8.1 using python3.4.2 installed from >> the python-3.4.2.amd64.msi. > > > What experience have others had with Idle an

Running Idle on Windows 8 (.1)

2015-02-24 Thread Terry Reedy
On 2/24/2015 3:13 PM, blakemal...@gmail.com wrote: I too can not get idle to run on win 8.1 using python3.4.2 installed from the python-3.4.2.amd64.msi. What experience have others had with Idle and Windows 8? The OP for https://stackoverflow.com/questions/28633690/python-installation

Re: Bad text appearance in IDLE

2015-02-20 Thread ast
"David H. Lipman" a écrit dans le message de news:czgdnvx2faf0q0ljnz2dnuu7-uwdn...@giganews.com... http://support.microsoft.com/kb/3013455 KB3013455 has been found to be causing Display Font problems for Windows Vista and Server 2003. A partial mitigation is to use ClearType Font Smoothin

Re: Bad text appearance in IDLE

2015-02-14 Thread David H. Lipman
From: "ast" Hello Here is how text appears in IDLE window http://www.cjoint.com/data/0BmnEIcxVAx.htm Yesterday evening I had not this trouble. It appears this morning. I restarted my computer with no effect. A windows Vista update has been done this morning, with about 10 fixes.

Re: Bad text appearance in IDLE

2015-02-13 Thread ast
"Frank Millman" a écrit dans le message de news:mailman.18720.1423801380.18130.python-l...@python.org... I use Windows Server 2003. It also ran an automatic update yesterday. Something seems to have gone wrong with the system font. I don't use IDLE, but I use OutlookExpress a

Re: Bad text appearance in IDLE

2015-02-13 Thread ast
"Terry Reedy" a écrit dans le message de news:mailman.18714.1423775571.18130.python-l...@python.org... Do you get anything similar when running the console interpreter? yes import tkinter as tk root = tk.Tk() text = tk.Text() text.pack() text.insert('1.0', 'this is a test eeeccee') s

Re: Bad text appearance in IDLE

2015-02-12 Thread Frank Millman
"ast" wrote in message news:54dc9bee$0$3046$426a3...@news.free.fr... > Hello > > Here is how text appears in IDLE window > http://www.cjoint.com/data/0BmnEIcxVAx.htm > > Yesterday evening I had not this trouble. It appears > this morning. I restarted my compute

Re: Bad text appearance in IDLE

2015-02-12 Thread Terry Reedy
On 2/12/2015 7:26 AM, ast wrote: Hello Here is how text appears in IDLE window http://www.cjoint.com/data/0BmnEIcxVAx.htm Do you get anything similar when running the console interpreter? Yesterday evening I had not this trouble. It appears this morning. I restarted my computer with no

Bad text appearance in IDLE

2015-02-12 Thread ast
Hello Here is how text appears in IDLE window http://www.cjoint.com/data/0BmnEIcxVAx.htm Yesterday evening I had not this trouble. It appears this morning. I restarted my computer with no effect. A windows Vista update has been done this morning, with about 10 fixes. I suspect something gone

Re: idle feature request

2015-02-11 Thread Terry Reedy
ats what I want. In a file-window there is 'ask-to-save' as soon as a single character is typed. I want similar for shell window. As I said if there is a config option for that, thats best. But if I have to put in a few lines in my own idle that's fine too². [BTW I have some other

Re: idle feature request

2015-02-11 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 12/02/2015 02:48, Rustom Mody wrote: [BTW I have some other feature requests too. Is this the best forum to talk of them? And thanks for your work on idle :-) ] Here is as good a place as any although there is an IDLE development mailing list at https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: idle feature request

2015-02-11 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: > However, when one quits, then, unlike a regular edit window, there is no > ask-to-save warning. Is this what you want? This would seem reasonable and > likely easy. (I would, however, not want the prompt when the buffer has not > been saved

Re: idle feature request

2015-02-11 Thread Rustom Mody
On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 7:57:48 AM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 2/11/2015 1:00 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > > On 11/02/2015 13:11, Rustom Mody wrote: > >> Context: > >> I am using idle for taking python classes. > > Teaching or taking? Teaching -- I

Re: idle feature request

2015-02-11 Thread Terry Reedy
On 2/11/2015 1:00 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: On 11/02/2015 13:11, Rustom Mody wrote: Context: I am using idle for taking python classes. Teaching or taking? Finish the class and run out usually in a hurry and forget to save the idle interaction window. Do you mean the shell window? Would

Re: idle feature request

2015-02-11 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 11/02/2015 13:11, Rustom Mody wrote: Context: I am using idle for taking python classes. Finish the class and run out usually in a hurry and forget to save the idle interaction window. Would like to save it so that I can mail it to the students. In emacs I could set a hook to make

Re: idle feature request

2015-02-11 Thread Fabien
On 11.02.2015 14:29, Rustom Mody wrote: So getting up and running with minimal headache is an important priority. Yes true. I consider Notebooks as a way to do "frontal" teaching, not necessarily usefull if students have to redo what you are doing on screen. For that, notebooks are rather pro

Re: idle feature request

2015-02-11 Thread Rustom Mody
On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 6:50:35 PM UTC+5:30, Fabien wrote: > On 11.02.2015 14:11, Rustom Mody wrote: > > Context: > > I am using idle for taking python classes. > > I know this is not your question, but: have you considered using iPython > notebooks

Re: idle feature request

2015-02-11 Thread Fabien
On 11.02.2015 14:11, Rustom Mody wrote: Context: I am using idle for taking python classes. I know this is not your question, but: have you considered using iPython notebooks for teaching? They save automatically, look nice, and can be sent as code, html, rst, ... Fabien -- https

idle feature request

2015-02-11 Thread Rustom Mody
Context: I am using idle for taking python classes. Finish the class and run out usually in a hurry and forget to save the idle interaction window. Would like to save it so that I can mail it to the students. In emacs I could set a hook to make arbitrary 'buffers' like the python-

Re: IDLE has suddenly become FAWLTY - so should I be hitting it with a big stick, or what?

2014-12-23 Thread Rick Johnson
On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 7:01:22 PM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > I think it is a serious design flaw that the standard > library and user code co-exist in a single namespace. I'm not sure if your wording is just clumsily and you meant: """ I think it is a serious design flaw that the

Configuring code editors (was Re: IDLE ...)

2014-12-23 Thread Terry Reedy
On 12/23/2014 10:24 AM, pypythotho wrote: In Command Prompt, 'python -m idlelib' helped me to dicover the problem source. An explicit message told that an indentation was insconsistant in the file ntpath.py I modified previously with notepad++. I replaced a tab by 4 spaces and IDLE

Re: IDLE has suddenly become FAWLTY - so should I be hitting it with a big stick, or what?

2014-12-23 Thread pypythotho
'python -m idlelib' gave me information about a file, ntpath.py, that I've edited before with notepad++. This file has been rewritten with a tab instead of 4 paces. The command suggested by Terry displayed an explicit message about wrong indentation. This error fixed, IDLE r

Re: IDLE has suddenly become FAWLTY - so should I be hitting it with a big stick, or what?

2014-12-23 Thread pypythotho
In Command Prompt, 'python -m idlelib' helped me to dicover the problem source. An explicit message told that an indentation was insconsistant in the file ntpath.py I modified previously with notepad++. I replaced a tab by 4 spaces and IDLE run again like a charm. -- https://mail.

Re: locale.getlocale() in cmd.exe vs. Idle

2014-11-11 Thread random832
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014, at 09:47, Albert-Jan Roskam wrote: > - Original Message - > > From: Terry Reedy > > To: python-list@python.org > > Cc: > > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 9:31 PM > > Subject: Re: locale.getlocale() in cmd.exe vs. Idle > >

Re: locale.getlocale() in cmd.exe vs. Idle

2014-11-11 Thread random832
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014, at 09:47, Albert-Jan Roskam wrote: > - Original Message - > > From: Terry Reedy > > To: python-list@python.org > > Cc: > > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 9:31 PM > > Subject: Re: locale.getlocale() in cmd.exe vs. Idle > >

Re: locale.getlocale() in cmd.exe vs. Idle

2014-11-11 Thread Albert-Jan Roskam
- Original Message - > From: Terry Reedy > To: python-list@python.org > Cc: > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 9:31 PM > Subject: Re: locale.getlocale() in cmd.exe vs. Idle > > On 11/10/2014 4:22 AM, Albert-Jan Roskam wrote: >> Hi, >> >

Re: locale.getlocale() in cmd.exe vs. Idle

2014-11-10 Thread Terry Reedy
On 11/10/2014 4:22 AM, Albert-Jan Roskam wrote: Hi, Why do I get different output for locale.getlocale() in Idle vs. cmd.exe? # IDLE Python 2.7.1 (r271:86832, Nov 27 2010, 18:30:46) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] on win32 Type "copyright", "credits" or "license()"

locale.getlocale() in cmd.exe vs. Idle

2014-11-10 Thread Albert-Jan Roskam
Hi, Why do I get different output for locale.getlocale() in Idle vs. cmd.exe? # IDLE Python 2.7.1 (r271:86832, Nov 27 2010, 18:30:46) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)] on win32 Type "copyright", "credits" or "license()" for more information. >>> import local

Re: Idle on Mac issues

2014-11-04 Thread Andrea D'Amore
On 2014-11-04 19:55:00 +, Ned Deily said: […] all Apple 8.5 version have serious bugs that have been fixed upstream. The most serious involves an immediate, unrecoverable crash in Tk when typing a composition character in an edit window or the IDLE shell […] I stand corrected, I wasn&#

Re: Idle on Mac issues

2014-11-04 Thread Ned Deily
In article , Andrea D'Amore wrote: > On 2014-11-04 12:43:59 +, Rustom Mody said: > > > I seem to be stuck with some issues of Idle on macs. > > The page https://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk > > seems to talk only of Tcl/Tk versions 8.5 > > System

Re: Idle on Mac issues

2014-11-04 Thread Andrea D'Amore
On 2014-11-04 12:43:59 +, Rustom Mody said: I seem to be stuck with some issues of Idle on macs. The page https://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk seems to talk only of Tcl/Tk versions 8.5 System's 8.5 should be enough, if not there's explicit mention of the ActiveTcl di

Idle on Mac issues

2014-11-04 Thread Rustom Mody
I seem to be stuck with some issues of Idle on macs. The page https://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk seems to talk only of Tcl/Tk versions 8.5 Macports seem to have at 8.6 https://www.macports.org/ports.php?by=library&substr=tcl With a direct download of Tcl/Tk there are some secu

Re: different behavior from idle/pycharm and shell

2014-10-27 Thread kiuhnm03
On Monday, October 27, 2014 11:55:44 PM UTC+1, MRAB wrote: > On 2014-10-27 22:38, kiuhnm wrote: > > Consider this code: > > > > --- > > from ctypes import * > > > > user32 = windll.user32 > > user32.MessageBoxA(0, 'ok', 'ok', 0) &g

Re: different behavior from idle/pycharm and shell

2014-10-27 Thread MRAB
On 2014-10-27 22:38, kiuhn...@yahoo.it wrote: Consider this code: --- from ctypes import * user32 = windll.user32 user32.MessageBoxA(0, 'ok', 'ok', 0) --- If I run it in idle or from pycharm, the messagebox shows 'o' instead of 'ok', but if I run it

Re: different behavior from idle/pycharm and shell

2014-10-27 Thread sohcahtoa82
On Monday, October 27, 2014 3:38:31 PM UTC-7, kiuh...@yahoo.it wrote: > Consider this code: > > --- > from ctypes import * > > user32 = windll.user32 > user32.MessageBoxA(0, 'ok', 'ok', 0) > --- > > If I run it in idle or from pycharm, the mes

different behavior from idle/pycharm and shell

2014-10-27 Thread kiuhnm03
Consider this code: --- from ctypes import * user32 = windll.user32 user32.MessageBoxA(0, 'ok', 'ok', 0) --- If I run it in idle or from pycharm, the messagebox shows 'o' instead of 'ok', but if I run it from shell, it shows 'ok' like it

Re: python3 on mac-mavericks (was trying idle)

2014-10-16 Thread Cameron Simpson
(like debian/ubuntu) for core-python, tkinter, idle etc? It is one package. (You can install distinct packages for python 3.2, 3.3, 3.4 ... and select which one is default.) That gets you Python and the stdlib. There's a whole suite of extra packages for various third party libraries. A

Re: python3 on mac-mavericks (was trying idle)

2014-10-16 Thread Rustom Mody
kage or a bunch of separate ones (like debian/ubuntu) for core-python, tkinter, idle etc? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: python3 on mac-mavericks (was trying idle)

2014-10-16 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 16Oct2014 06:29, rusi wrote: On Thursday, October 9, 2014 2:56:56 PM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote: One may have to install activestate tkc/tk on mac, depending on osx version. This page has details: https://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk Ok Ive some more information: The people in the

Re: python3 on mac-mavericks (was trying idle)

2014-10-16 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 3:23 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2014-10-16, Chris Angelico wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 1:04 AM, MRAB wrote: >>> In Macland it's called the terminal emulator: >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_%28OS_X%29 >> >> To be strictly correct, the "shell" would

Re: python3 on mac-mavericks (was trying idle)

2014-10-16 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-10-16, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 1:04 AM, MRAB wrote: >> In Macland it's called the terminal emulator: >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_%28OS_X%29 > > To be strictly correct, the "shell" would be the thing you run that > gives you a prompt, and the "termin

Re: python3 on mac-mavericks (was trying idle)

2014-10-16 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 1:04 AM, MRAB wrote: > In Macland it's called the terminal emulator: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_%28OS_X%29 To be strictly correct, the "shell" would be the thing you run that gives you a prompt, and the "terminal emulator" would be the thing you run that giv

Re: python3 on mac-mavericks (was trying idle)

2014-10-16 Thread MRAB
On 2014-10-16 14:29, Rustom Mody wrote: On Thursday, October 9, 2014 2:56:56 PM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote: One may have to install activestate tkc/tk on mac, depending on osx version. This page has details: https://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk Ok Ive some more information: The peopl

python3 on mac-mavericks (was trying idle)

2014-10-16 Thread Rustom Mody
On Thursday, October 9, 2014 2:56:56 PM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote: > One may have to install activestate tkc/tk on mac, depending on osx > version. This page has details: > https://www.python.org/download/mac/tcltk Ok Ive some more information: The people in the audience using macs are usin

Re: How to debug Python IDLE?

2014-10-15 Thread Terry Reedy
tax Error box. I wouldn't say that's debugging anything. Quite the opposite. Idle checks syntax before running the code since running the code would produce the same error anyway. > I can't tell what line is throwing the error, or how to fix it. When you click OK on the box, th

Re: How to debug Python IDLE?

2014-10-15 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 15/10/2014 21:45, ryguy7272 wrote: On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 3:10:05 PM UTC-4, ryguy7272 wrote: I'm wondering how to debug code in IDLE Python 3.4. I found this. http://www.cs.uky.edu/~paulp/CS115F11/notes/debug/debug.html That looks pretty helpful, but mine is nothing like

Re: How to debug Python IDLE?

2014-10-15 Thread ryguy7272
On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 3:10:05 PM UTC-4, ryguy7272 wrote: > I'm wondering how to debug code in IDLE Python 3.4. I found this. > > http://www.cs.uky.edu/~paulp/CS115F11/notes/debug/debug.html > > > > That looks pretty helpful, but mine is nothing like tha

Re: How to debug Python IDLE?

2014-10-15 Thread MRAB
On 2014-10-15 20:36, ryguy7272 wrote: On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 3:23:22 PM UTC-4, Terry Reedy wrote: On 10/15/2014 3:09 PM, ryguy7272 wrote: > I'm wondering how to debug code in IDLE Python 3.4. I found this. Use 3.4.2, which has an important bugfix for debugger.

Re: How to debug Python IDLE?

2014-10-15 Thread ryguy7272
On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 3:23:22 PM UTC-4, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 10/15/2014 3:09 PM, ryguy7272 wrote: > > > I'm wondering how to debug code in IDLE Python 3.4. I found this. > > > > Use 3.4.2, which has an important bugfix for debugger. > >

Re: How to debug Python IDLE?

2014-10-15 Thread Terry Reedy
On 10/15/2014 3:09 PM, ryguy7272 wrote: I'm wondering how to debug code in IDLE Python 3.4. I found this. Use 3.4.2, which has an important bugfix for debugger. http://www.cs.uky.edu/~paulp/CS115F11/notes/debug/debug.html That looks pretty helpful, but mine is nothing like that. A

How to debug Python IDLE?

2014-10-15 Thread ryguy7272
I'm wondering how to debug code in IDLE Python 3.4. I found this. http://www.cs.uky.edu/~paulp/CS115F11/notes/debug/debug.html That looks pretty helpful, but mine is nothing like that. All my controls are greyed out. The debugger does basically...nothing. All I get is messages like

Re: trying idle

2014-10-10 Thread random832
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014, at 03:53, Mark H Harris wrote: > The apple mouse has only one click in the hardware... but, through the > software (settings) the apple hardware 'know' which side of the mouse > you are pushing over. It only has one physical switch (I'm not sure the latest ones have any at

Re: trying idle

2014-10-10 Thread Mark H Harris
On 10/9/14 1:52 AM, Rustom Mody wrote: > Been using emacs for over 20 years and teaching python for 10. > And getting fed up that my audience looks at me like Rip van Winkle > each time I start up emacs... (sigh) > So trying out Idle... Good for you! ... and even better for y

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