Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-27 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, bruno at modulix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >> bruno at modulix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>>Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> >(snip) I suppose this is an instance of the more general rule:

Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-25 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
bruno at modulix a écrit : > Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > >>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >> bruno at modulix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >>>Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> > > (snip) > I suppose this is an instance of the more general rule: "using OO when you don't have to". >

Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-25 Thread ToddLMorgan
Thanks for those ... just by looking at the colour of the links in my browser I'd only found 4 of those already so I appreciate the heads up :- ) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-25 Thread bruno at modulix
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > bruno at modulix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> (snip) >>>I suppose this is an instance of the more general rule: "using OO when >>>you don't have to". >> >>Lawrence, I'm afraid you're confusing OO wi

Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-24 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Mike Orr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> "ToddLMorgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >Are there python specific equivalents to the common Patterns, >> >Anti-Patterns and Refactoring books that are so prevalent as >> >reccomended reading

Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-24 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, bruno at modulix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >> "ToddLMorgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>I'm looking for the common types of mistakes that say a Java/C# or >>>even C++ developer may commonly make

Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-24 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "gene tani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >http://www.ferg.org/projects/python_gotchas.html Amazing. Backslashes are listed as not one, but _two_ items on the list. The problem is not with Python at all, it is with the MS-DOS foundations of Windows. When directory

Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-24 Thread Mike Orr
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > "ToddLMorgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Are there python specific equivalents to the common Patterns, > >Anti-Patterns and Refactoring books that are so prevalent as > >reccomended reading in C++ and Java? > I don't think they exist. Such books are targeted more to

Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-24 Thread Harry George
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "ToddLMorgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Are there python specific equivalents to the common Patterns, > >Anti-Patterns and Refactoring books that are so prevalent as > >reccomended reading in C++ and Java?

Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-24 Thread gene tani
Ant wrote: > Take a look at the newgroup archives over the last week or two - there > seem to have been a glut of people coming from Java to Python and > asking the same sort of questions. There were some links to a bunch of > Python 'gotcha' pages which will be useful. > Here's a few gotchas whi

Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-24 Thread bruno at modulix
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "ToddLMorgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>I'm looking for the common types of mistakes that say a Java/C# or >>even C++ developer may commonly make. > > > Using subclassing when you don't have to. For instance, you might have

Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-23 Thread ToddLMorgan
I've actually managed to find some other links by backtracking through some of the links that you provided. The most comprehensive so far is this one http://www.razorvine.net/python/PythonForJavaProgrammers and a summary version (on the same site) http://www.razorvine.net/python/PythonComparedToJa

Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-22 Thread Ant
Take a look at the newgroup archives over the last week or two - there seem to have been a glut of people coming from Java to Python and asking the same sort of questions. There were some links to a bunch of Python 'gotcha' pages which will be useful. For my part, I came from Java to Python, and f

Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-22 Thread Chris Lambacher
http://dirtsimple.org/2004/12/python-is-not-java.html http://dirtsimple.org/2004/12/java-is-not-python-either.html http://dirtsimple.org/2004/12/python-interfaces-are-not-java.html This link seems to be down at the moment. http://naeblis.cx/rtomayko/2004/12/15/the-static-method-thing The above a

Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-22 Thread Anton Vredegoor
ToddLMorgan wrote: > I'm just starting out with python, after having a long history with > Java. I was wondering if there were any resources or tips from anyone > out there in Python-land that can help me make the transition as > successfully as possible? Perhaps you've made the transition yoursel

Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-22 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "ToddLMorgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Are there python specific equivalents to the common Patterns, >Anti-Patterns and Refactoring books that are so prevalent as >reccomended reading in C++ and Java? I don't think they exist. Such books are targeted more towar

Re: Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-22 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "ToddLMorgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I'm looking for the common types of mistakes that say a Java/C# or >even C++ developer may commonly make. Using subclassing when you don't have to. For instance, you might have a Java method which takes an argument of typ

Looking for resources for making the jump from Java to Python easier and more productive

2006-04-22 Thread ToddLMorgan
I'm just starting out with python, after having a long history with Java. I was wondering if there were any resources or tips from anyone out there in Python-land that can help me make the transition as successfully as possible? Perhaps you've made the transition yourself or just have experience wi