Hello dear community, dear Python developers!
Would this be a reasonable and appealing project? A MVC (backend, frontend) of
OPNsense (opnsense.org) -> to proof
the security of Python (3. Gen)? The OPNsense backend was recently
rewritten in Python already.
Manuel Kasper wrote a PHP
On 6/11/2014 2:27 PM, Stefan Ram wrote:
Mark Lawrence writes:
IDLE is available on all platforms and is written in tkinter. But
personally I'd rather use the command line :)
In the meantime, I have learned that tkinter in fact has
become part of a standard Python implementations, and i
On 10/06/2014 04:32, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Stefan Ram wrote:
AFAIK standard Python has no GUI library at all, so Java SE
and C# already are better than Python insofar as they
include a standard GUI toolkit at all! In Python one first
has to choose b
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Stefan Ram wrote:
> Chris Angelico writes:
>>On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Stefan Ram wrote:
>>>AFAIK standard Python has no GUI library at all, so Java SE
>>>and C# already are better than Python insofar as they
>>>include a standard GUI toolkit at all! In Py
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Stefan Ram wrote:
> Chris Angelico writes:
>>On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Stefan Ram wrote:
>>>AFAIK standard Python has no GUI library at all, so Java SE
>>>and C# already are better than Python insofar as they
>>>include a standard GUI toolkit at all! In P
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Stefan Ram wrote:
> AFAIK standard Python has no GUI library at all, so Java SE
> and C# already are better than Python insofar as they
> include a standard GUI toolkit at all! In Python one first
> has to choose between more than a dozen of »GUI framework
> > The most intuitive approach to database applications would be:
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naked_objects
> > http://www.nakedobjects.org/
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > Unfortunately, there's no Python framework (yet?) that implements
> > this design.
>
> It could be a blessing in disguise. To
Wolfgang Keller :
> The most intuitive approach to database applications would be:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naked_objects
> http://www.nakedobjects.org/
>
> [...]
>
> Unfortunately, there's no Python framework (yet?) that implements this
> design.
It could be a blessing in disguise. Too o
> I had developed many database business applications using MVC design
> pattern with different programming languages like PHP, Java EE,
> VB.NET, C#, VB 6.0, VBA, etc. All of them defined the Model layer as
> the data management of the application domain and business logic
> im
On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 10:37:24 -0700, Ernest Bonat, Ph.D. wrote:
> ... MVC design pattern ... defined the Model layer as the data
> management of the application domain and business logic implementation
> ... Can we implement the application business logic in another layer?
> Ye
Hi All,
I had developed many database business applications using MVC design
pattern with different programming languages like PHP, Java EE, VB.NET, C#,
VB 6.0, VBA, etc. All of them defined the Model layer as the data
management of the application domain and business logic implementation. I
I have used a variety of different MVC web-frameworks.
My current methodology for web and mobile [PhoneGap/Cordova]
development is as follows:
Web framework (MVC)
1. Write the Models (db schema stuff)
2. Write the Controllers (manage interface between models and views,
or just expose certain
An example of a BPMN2 diagram with swimlanes, which I created for a
project: http://i40.tinypic.com/262r6nr.jpg
What I am looking for is something suited towards showing architecture
bounds and the interactions between each section of MVC.
> I find that when thinking something through at
Good morning,
I'm developing various websites and functionality to cater to various
different use-cases up in Django.
Is there a good notation for showing what behaviour is at each stage,
i.e. using swimlanes?
I use BPMN 2 notation for everything, but I feel I am overusing this,
and that there w
Alex,
The question was not meant for you. I was responding to Greg's comment.
Regards,
Emeka
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 12:14 AM, Alexander Kapps wrote:
> On 03.10.2011 00:15, Emeka wrote:
>
>> Greg,
>>
>> Do you have an example where the Controller is connected?
>>
>
> What do you mean? In my exa
Alexander Kapps wrote:
Sure, in that simple example the Controller is just there to show a
complete MVC pattern with all three parts. There are often examples
where the View is actually both, the View and the Controller.
I think what I'm really trying to say is that this
example is *poo
Emeka wrote:
Greg,
Do you have an example where the Controller is connected?
No, in fact I've never really felt the need for anything
called a Controller in the GUI stuff I've done. I just
have Models and Views. Models hold the data, and Views
display it and handle input.
If you come across a
On 02.10.2011 04:40, Gregory Ewing wrote:
Alexander Kapps wrote:
But I think a simple (and quick 'n' dirty) Tk MVC example can look
like this:
The Controller doesn't seem to add any value in that example.
You might as well connect the Model and Views directly to
each other.
On 03.10.2011 00:15, Emeka wrote:
Greg,
Do you have an example where the Controller is connected?
What do you mean? In my example, the Controller *is* connected (to
both the View and the Model.)
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Greg,
Do you have an example where the Controller is connected?
Regards,
EMeka
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 4:40 AM, Gregory Ewing
wrote:
> Alexander Kapps wrote:
>
> But I think a simple (and quick 'n' dirty) Tk MVC example can look like
>> this:
>>
>
> The Con
Alexander Kapps wrote:
But I think a simple (and quick 'n' dirty) Tk MVC example can look like
this:
The Controller doesn't seem to add any value in that example.
You might as well connect the Model and Views directly to
each other.
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On 01.10.2011 14:41, Emeka wrote:
Hello All,
I need a basic example where MVC pattern is used with Python TK.
I'm still not 100% sure if I really understand the MVC pattern. Some
say the view and the model must not interact directly, some say the
view must not access the controller (bu
Hello All,
I need a basic example where MVC pattern is used with Python TK.
Regards,
Emeka
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On 12/15/2010 05:03 PM, Chris Withers wrote:
> On 14/12/2010 00:58, Gerry Reno wrote:
>> What I really don't like right off is that Pyramid is contorting the MVC
>> model
>
> That specific pattern, I'm afraid, is a little antiquated nowadays,
> particularly whe
Really helpful!
2008/9/28 Mikolai Fajer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> The following link directly discusses using MVC and pygame.
>
> http://ezide.com/games/writing-games.html
>
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The following link directly discusses using MVC and pygame.
http://ezide.com/games/writing-games.html
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Howdy,
I am working on a small PC game by using pygame. Since there are many
graphical objects to display and intensive user interactions, I would
like to employ MVC pattern to keep the system maintainable.
However, I cannot find a good article which discussing the general
knowledge about MVC
I explained in my previous message, the whole Qt
model-view framework doesn't seem fit any data which can not be handled
as QVariant and thus as a value type.
It is not about QT, it is about MVC. In MVC, code which implement the model
should be completely ignorant of the libraries used f
hi
i am trying to write a controller that creates a Tkinter gui,takes
userevents from gui and calls another program to do some calculation
and finally returns the results to gui to be displayed.
I tried to separate these three like MVC pattern
however ,being a newbie i have some doubts
sample
Alis schrieb:
Hi
Is there any component-oriented (non-MVC) web framework available for
Python?
That is something like Apache Wicket, Tapestry or JSF, but I need it
to be in Python.
ToscaWidgets, can be used with any WSGI-compliant framework.
Diez
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Alis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Is there any component-oriented (non-MVC) web framework available for
> Python?
>
> That is something like Apache Wicket, Tapestry or JSF, but I need it
> to be in Python.
Zope [1] might be worth trying.
[1] http://www.zope.org
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On Jul 16, 6:48 pm, Alis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
>
> Is there any component-oriented (non-MVC) web framework available for
> Python?
>
> That is something like Apache Wicket, Tapestry or JSF, but I need it
> to be in Python.
>
> Regards,
> Ali
Hi
Is there any component-oriented (non-MVC) web framework available for
Python?
That is something like Apache Wicket, Tapestry or JSF, but I need it
to be in Python.
Regards,
Ali
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George Maggessy a écrit :
Hi Gurus,
I'm a Java developer and I'm trying to shift my mindset to start
programming python.
Welcome onboard then.
So, my first exercise is to build a website.
However I'm always falling back into MVC pattern.
And ? Is there anything wrong wit
George Maggessy wrote:
Hi Gurus,
I'm a Java developer and I'm trying to shift my mindset to start
programming python. So, my first exercise is to build a website.
However I'm always falling back into MVC pattern. I know it's a
standard, but the implementation language affec
In fact, the Pylons web framework is geared toward the MVC approach.
http://pylonshq.com/
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 7:48 PM, George Maggessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi Gurus,
>
> I'm a Java developer and I'm trying to shift my mindset to start
> programming python.
George Maggessy wrote:
Hi Gurus,
I'm a Java developer and I'm trying to shift my mindset to start
programming python. So, my first exercise is to build a website.
However I'm always falling back into MVC pattern. I know it's a
standard, but the implementation language affec
ch as some
would say, although the language doesn't bend over backward to make sure
programmers have flexibility.
MVC is a well respected pattern, and most of the major python web frameworks
are designed in an MVC way, so you should be just fine to use MVC for your
application. Worry more abo
Hi Gurus,
I'm a Java developer and I'm trying to shift my mindset to start
programming python. So, my first exercise is to build a website.
However I'm always falling back into MVC pattern. I know it's a
standard, but the implementation language affects the use of design
patt
ose fun kind of things.
I'm looking for your recommendations on some good IoC and MVC frameworks,
specifically those that don't just apply to web projects, as this is not
one. I've taken a look at SpringPython which seems fairly tidy, from my
experience with the original Spring framew
gt;
> Is there any good tutorial for mvc in python or can someone explain me
> little bit about mvc?
> or maybe some code snippet in mvc, that will be nice.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
MVC in a nutshell.
1. You need a model.
2. You need a view.
3. You need a controller.
Lets se
Hi all!
I have just finished my tkinter text editor, learning tkinter purpose.
Now I want to learn canvas so I want to make my paint program, I think that
this
will be the best to do over model-view-controler pattern which I need to learn
also.
Is there any good tutorial for mvc in python or
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:29:25 +0200, Gigs_ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can someone give me example how to write text editor in tkintter with
> model-view-controler?
> What goes to controler and what goes to model?
>
> thanks in advance
Others may have a different opinion,
Can someone give me example how to write text editor in tkintter with
model-view-controler?
What goes to controler and what goes to model?
thanks in advance
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James Stroud wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Looking at different MVC frameworks from many langauges from PHP to
>> Python, I've concluded that the explosion of MVC frameworks is mainly
>> due to undisciplined & unexperienced programmers.
>>
>&g
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Looking at different MVC frameworks from many langauges from PHP to
> Python, I've concluded that the explosion of MVC frameworks is mainly
> due to undisciplined & unexperienced programmers.
>
> Nobody would argue about the separation of th
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
(snip)
> What MVC does not emphasis is the separation of the data access layer,
Why should it ? Smalltalk is not only a language, it's a complete
environment that provides automatic persistency.
(snip some more OT stuff)
And what's your question
On Mar 22, 2007, at 9:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> mickey mouse
Well, at least you spelled Mickey Mouse right... :-)
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Looking at different MVC frameworks from many langauges from PHP to
Python, I've concluded that the explosion of MVC frameworks is mainly
due to undisciplined & unexperienced programmers.
Nobody would argue about the separation of the layers because this is
not the problem I have wi
samuraisam wrote:
> Are there any MVC-framework-like libraries for wxWidgets or Tkinter for
> Python? If so, any experiences with using them? I need to develop a
> desktop application *fast* and experiences with the likes of Turbogears
> have taught me that you can indeed develop very
Are there any MVC-framework-like libraries for wxWidgets or Tkinter for
Python? If so, any experiences with using them? I need to develop a
desktop application *fast* and experiences with the likes of Turbogears
have taught me that you can indeed develop very fast with a framework
and the MVC
TurboGears?
www.turbogears.com
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As I understand it, django works with fcgi, but it's a pain to setup.
Are there any python MVCs that are optimized to work without
mod_python. Or any other module that isn't likely to be loaded by
standard python hosters?
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> I'm aware that Pylons is trying to
> compete with Rails in the near future but I'm just not clear on how
> directly they are trying to compete...will Pylons have the same
> generation functions and other time saving goodies that RoR has or am I
> barking up the wrong tre
http://www.myghty.org/
That one is excellent.
Robert
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
> Thanks Rune. I've already checked out Django and TG and have found both
> the projects to be a little misguided. I think the one great thing they
> have over Rails is the use of SQLObject
Then you haven't really checked Django - it doesn't use SQLObject.
> Having sa
Thanks Rune. I've already checked out Django and TG and have found both
the projects to be a little misguided. I think the one great thing they
have over Rails is the use of SQLObject because the implicit mapping of
data models via the "plural" approach of Rails is a bit of a quirk to
me, I just do
ramming work (albeit mainly hobby and personal interest
> projects) as I'm getting to the stage where the need for a real MVC
> capable language framework is a must simply to save some time and PHP
> just isn't cutting it (although CakePHP is all right and the new Zend
> framework lo
interest
projects) as I'm getting to the stage where the need for a real MVC
capable language framework is a must simply to save some time and PHP
just isn't cutting it (although CakePHP is all right and the new Zend
framework looks to hold some promise).
Here's where I'm in a pickle
Thanks!!Is there a wx example? 2006/1/17, Fredrik Lundh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
"Sbaush" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> The View must be only the clickable button> The Control must be the event listener on the button> The Model must be the action of the button.
>
"Sbaush" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The View must be only the clickable button
> The Control must be the event listener on the button
> The Model must be the action of the button.
> If we can complete this MVC simple implementation we could publish this like
>
> Can I just suggest you search in Google Groups for the message by
> "has" labelled "Re: MVC programming with python (newbie) - please help".
> Dated: 7 Jan 2006 07:03:04 -0800. It is one of the nicest short
> descriptions of the MVC pattern and why it works.
If folk wish to post that spiel anywhere else, be my guest. Public
domain and all that.
has
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> Hi to all.
> I woud implement MVC with wxPython. Is it possible? Is there anyone
> that have experience in this?
> The only correct example according to Observer Pattern that i found on
> web is not the formal implementation of MVC (is Docume
See this recent explanation by has:
http://groups.google.ca/group/comp.lang.python/msg/f8990a2c666a793c?hl=en&;
(The rest of the thread may lead you to more concrete examples as well.)
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi to all.
> I woud implement MVC with wxPython. Is it possible? Is there anyone
> that have experience in this?
> The only correct example according to Observer Pattern that i found on
> web is not the formal implementation of MVC (is Docume
Hi to all.
I woud implement MVC with wxPython. Is it possible? Is there anyone
that have experience in this?
The only correct example according to Observer Pattern that i found on
web is not the formal implementation of MVC (is Document/View) and is
implemented with gtk...
How can i translate
Well I read this in daylight hours. Talk about Enlightening!!!. It all
became clear. Now I even understand the point of an observer class, which
was shown in an example I posted back to the group from an earlier reply.
Thanks again for sharing your knowledge.
Be Well and Happy Always
Chris
"has" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> bwaha wrote:
> > The author refers to mvctree.py in wxPython as an example of MVC design.
> > However I'm still too green so I find that particular example too
complex
> > and I'm
bwaha wrote:
> The author refers to mvctree.py in wxPython as an example of MVC design.
> However I'm still too green so I find that particular example too complex
> and I'm not understanding the separation the author is recommending.
MVC is all about separation of conc
bwaha wrote:
> The author refers to mvctree.py in wxPython as an example of MVC design.
> However I'm still too green so I find that particular example too complex
> and I'm not understanding the separation the author is recommending.
MVC is all about separation of conc
has wrote:
> MVC is all about separation of concerns
This is a wonderful explanation of MVC. I'm going to keep a link to the
Google-Groups version just so I can cite it to those asking about MVC.
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bwaha wrote:
> The author refers to mvctree.py in wxPython as an example of MVC design.
> However I'm still too green so I find that particular example too complex
> and I'm not understanding the separation the author is recommending.
MVC is all about separation of conc
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> I'd appreciate some experience from the gurus out there to help me
> understand how to implement MVC design in python code.
Thanks for all the help. Also this link was sent to me by pm and I found
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> Gerard Flanagan wrote:
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> > bwaha wrote:
> >
> > > I'd appreciate some experience from the gurus out there to help me
> > > understand how to implement MV
Gerard Flanagan wrote:
> bwaha wrote:
>
> > I'd appreciate some experience from the gurus out there to help me
> > understand how to implement MVC design in python code.
> >
>
Badly snipped, not pretending to be a 'guru'
Gerard
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bwaha wrote:
> I'd appreciate some experience from the gurus out there to help me
> understand how to implement MVC design in python code.
>
I'm neither a guru nor an expert, have never used wxpython, and am not
qualified to advise on MVC!! But until someone more qualified
bwaha wrote:
> I'd appreciate some experience from the gurus out there to help me
> understand how to implement MVC design in python code.
>
Model
class Study(object):
def __init__(self, name, file):
self.name = name
self.file = file
class
bwaha wrote:
>
> At some level this seems to me like the class ListDataModel above. I just
> need to make a MyTreeControl class. However here GS(et) routines are
> implemented in the ProjectFileDecoder class (data model?) whereas in the
> earlier advice they are in class MyCoolListControl. So I'm
I'd appreciate some experience from the gurus out there to help me
understand how to implement MVC design in python code.
Entry number 5 on the wxpython wiki at
http://wiki.wxpython.org/index.cgi/BuildingControls discusses MVC design in
building reusable controls. The author (Terrel Sh
Swaroop C H wrote:
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 17:26:14 +0800, Su Wei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
i have a project want to develop with python.
who can tell me that how to apply "mvc" pattern to gui-design in python.
please give me some advices!
ths in advanced.
This ma
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 17:26:14 +0800, Su Wei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i have a project want to develop with python.
> who can tell me that how to apply "mvc" pattern to gui-design in python.
> please give me some advices!
> ths in advanced.
This may help you:
htt
i have a project want to develop with python.
who can tell me that how to apply "mvc" pattern to gui-design in python.
please give me some advices!
ths in advanced.
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