Re: Mega Newbie Questions: Probably FAQs

2006-08-16 Thread Peter Decker
On 8/15/06, Zeph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Framework for what kind of apps? Web, native GUI, client-server, etc? > > MVC is an abstract architecture rather than a specific implementation. > > Even so, many implementations rarely employ a purely MVC design. > > Native GUI with some client-serve

Re: Mega Newbie Questions: Probably FAQs

2006-08-15 Thread Simon Forman
Zeph wrote: > Python > Pros: Free. Open source. Deep. Flexible. Rich community and third party > stuff. Well documented. > > Cons: Interpreted. > > Unknown: Secure (meaning not easily reverse engineered) code? Performance? Very recent thread on this subject: http://groups.google.ca/group/comp.lang

Re: Mega Newbie Questions: Probably FAQs

2006-08-14 Thread Zeph
Zeph wrote: >> 3) Can someone recommend a good framework that will enable me to keep >> things well sorted out, and easy to maintain as my apps grow? (I'm >> considering MVC, but have no idea how to apply it until I've gone >> beyond "Hello World"). Yu-Xi Lim wrote: > Framework for what kind o

Re: Mega Newbie Questions: Probably FAQs

2006-08-14 Thread Yu-Xi Lim
Zeph wrote: > 1b) Are these executable completely free from the need of the average > user needing to install Python. Basically, I want to write and sell > "compiled" apps. OSX and Linux installations nearly always come with Python pre-installed (usually because they are required by other syste

Re: Mega Newbie Questions: Probably FAQs

2006-08-14 Thread AlbaClause
Zeph wrote: > ajaksu wrote: > I do intend to start small and build up, but I want to front load my > learning curve, usually makes the other side of the curve more productive. Did you ever play on teeter-totters when you were a kid? I think that's what they're called. Those board like things

Re: Mega Newbie Questions: Probably FAQs

2006-08-14 Thread Zeph
ajaksu wrote: > Zeph wrote: And I'd research a bit about decompiling those executables, > might be easier (or harder, in my case) than you thought :) Are you saying that generally python code is insecure? It hadn't occurred to me, but I want to play in a fairly competitive field, and I'd hate t

Re: Mega Newbie Questions: Probably FAQs

2006-08-14 Thread Zeph
ajaksu wrote: > Hoping this helps more than confuses, Thanks, these were the sort of answers I was looking for. I've programmed in Basic, AppleScript, Pascal and Usertalk (Userland Frontier), I've got a sense for development, it's just been a very, very long time ago. I do intend to start smal

Re: Mega Newbie Questions: Probably FAQs

2006-08-14 Thread ajaksu
Zeph wrote: > 1) I want to write high-level apps that are db connected, networkable > and cross-platform: Linux, Mac OSX, Windows. I know there are apps that > can convert to Linux or Windows as stand-alone executables, is there > also one that will permit me to convert to MacOSX? Yes, py2app (http

Re: Mega Newbie Questions: Probably FAQs

2006-08-14 Thread AlbaClause
Zeph wrote: > 4) There are a lot of books and tutorials out there, but they are of the > proof-of-concept type. Specifically, a tutorial might teach me Hello > World, but not really care about the framework, because it's a very > simple item, and the point is simply to get me coding. I'd like t

Mega Newbie Questions: Probably FAQs

2006-08-14 Thread Zeph
I'm pretty well of a mind to pick up Python. I like it because it seems to have a fair degree of functionality and is accessible to someone without a PhD in computer sciences. This is my second day of investigation, and I'm astounded by the huge ecosystem that surrounds it. I have a number of q