On 2019-05-25 23:45:06 +0200, Roel Schroeven wrote:
> Jon Ribbens via Python-list schreef op 25/05/2019 om 21:00:
> > On 2019-05-25, Michael Torrie wrote:
> > > On 05/24/2019 04:27 AM, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote:
> > > > Sorry, in what sense do you mean "Serverless is CGI"?
> > > >
> > > >
...
More specifically, with CGI the webserver starts a new process for every single request. That's bad enough for a light C program,
but it's certainly not a good idea to start a whole new Python process for every request. At least not for any production website
or web service that se
On 24/05/2019 21:23, Terry Reedy wrote:
I am responding to Paul indirectly because his post did not show up on
the gmane mirror.
Paul Rubin :
It also makes me ask why the Python team keeps
adding new stuff if it can't even keep the old stuff running.
Because the new stuff is expected to b
Jon Ribbens via Python-list schreef op 25/05/2019 om 21:00:
On 2019-05-25, Michael Torrie wrote:
On 05/24/2019 04:27 AM, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote:
Sorry, in what sense do you mean "Serverless is CGI"?
As far as I can tell, it's just a script to automatically upload
bits of code into
Jon Ribbens :
> On 2019-05-25, Michael Torrie wrote:
>> Not really. Serverless just means stateless web-based remote
>> procedure calls. This is by definition what CGI is.
>
> No, it isn't. CGI is a specific API and method of calling a program in
> order to serve a web request. It isn't a shorthan
On 2019-05-25, Michael Torrie wrote:
> On 05/24/2019 04:27 AM, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote:
>> Sorry, in what sense do you mean "Serverless is CGI"?
>>
>> As far as I can tell, it's just a script to automatically upload
>> bits of code into various cloud providers, none of which use CGI.
>
On 05/24/2019 04:27 AM, Jon Ribbens via Python-list wrote:
> On 2019-05-23, Gunnar Þór Magnússon wrote:
>>> nginx is the current hotness. CGI has not been hotness since the
>>> mid 90s.
>>
>> Serverless is the new hotness, and serverless is CGI. Technology is
>> cyclical.
>
> Sorry, in what sense
On 05/24/2019 01:24 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
> There's a programming language arms race. Python wants to beat Java, C#
> and go in the everything-for-everybody game. Python developers seem to
> take the popularity of the language as proof of success. Pride goes
> before the fall.
I don't see this
I am responding to Paul indirectly because his post did not show up on
the gmane mirror.
Paul Rubin :
It also makes me ask why the Python team keeps
adding new stuff if it can't even keep the old stuff running.
Because the new stuff is expected to be more useful to more people than
some o
Paul Rubin :
> Stéphane Wirtel writes:
>> Not a massive effort, but we are limited with the resources.
>
> I keep hearing that but it makes it sound like Python itself is in
> decline. That is despite the reports that it is now the most popular
> language in the world. It also makes me ask why the
On 2019-05-22 03:51, Robin Becker wrote:
> In PEP 594 t has been proposed that cgi & cgitb should be removed. I
> suspect I am not the only person in the world that likes using cgi and
> cgitb.
I use both heavily. Just another data point. I wasn't going to respond
with a "Me too" except that I s
On 05/23, Rhodri James wrote:
On 22/05/2019 19:29, Terry Reedy wrote:
One of the factors being considered in removal decisions is the
absence of anyone willing to list themselves in the expert's list
https://devguide.python.org/experts/
as a maintainer for a module.
At the moment, 3 other peop
On 2019-05-23, Gunnar Þór Magnússon wrote:
>> nginx is the current hotness. CGI has not been hotness since the
>> mid 90s.
>
> Serverless is the new hotness, and serverless is CGI. Technology is
> cyclical.
Sorry, in what sense do you mean "Serverless is CGI"?
As far as I can tell, it's just a s
> nginx is the current hotness. CGI has not been hotness since the mid 90s.
Serverless is the new hotness, and serverless is CGI. Technology is cyclical.
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On 22/05/2019 19:29, Terry Reedy wrote:
One of the factors being considered in removal decisions is the absence
of anyone willing to list themselves in the expert's list
https://devguide.python.org/experts/
as a maintainer for a module.
At the moment, 3 other people have objected to the removal
On 2019-05-23, Paul Rubin wrote:
> dieter writes:
>> Should "cgi" disappear from the standard library
>
> It's also a concern that cgi may be disappearing from web servers. Last
> I heard, nginx didn't support it. That's part of why I still use
> apache, or (local only) even CGIHTTPServer.py.
Robin Becker writes:
> In PEP 594 t has been proposed that cgi & cgitb should be removed. I
> suspect I am not the only person in the world that likes using cgi and
> cgitb.
Currently, "Zope" is using "cgi"; it uses "zExceptions" (--> PyPI)
for tracebacks.
Should "cgi" disappear from the standar
On 5/22/2019 3:51 AM, Robin Becker wrote:
In PEP 594 t has been proposed that cgi & cgitb should be removed. I
suspect I am not the only person in the world that likes using cgi and
cgitb.
I suspect that there will be at least one person objecting to each
removal. But the underlying issue, a
On 2019-05-22 08:51, Robin Becker wrote:
> In PEP 594 t has been proposed that cgi & cgitb should be removed.
> I suspect I am not the only person in the world that likes using
> cgi and cgitb.
/me waves from the the back row as another cgi/cgitb user...
-tkc
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Re cgitb, not sure if this is what you want, but I just came across this
this week: https://github.com/cknd/stackprinter
On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 3:52 AM Robin Becker wrote:
> In PEP 594 t has been proposed that cgi & cgitb should be removed. I
> suspect I am not the only person in the world tha
On 22/05/2019 08:51, Robin Becker wrote:
In PEP 594 t has been proposed that cgi & cgitb should be removed. I
suspect I am not the only person in the world that likes using cgi and
cgitb.
Can I second this? I just started writing a small CGI application in
Python, and if cgi and cgitb were g
In PEP 594 t has been proposed that cgi & cgitb should be removed. I suspect I am not the only person in the world that likes
using cgi and cgitb.
One of the nice features in cgitb is the ability to get a nice traceback with variable values etc etc etc. I have used the
underlying mechanism to p
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