On 7/21/2014 10:27 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2014-07-21, Chris Angelico wrote:
You call it a bug because you can't think of any way it could be
beneficial. That's the wrong way of looking at it. Something isn't a
bug because you find it annoying; it's a bug because it fails to
implement the
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 2:55 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2014-07-21, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> When you send email, you have to have a valid envelope-from address,
>> which can be found in the headers. But the From: address doesn't
>> technically have to be valid.
>
> Note that a lot of mail
Steven D'Aprano writes:
>> Granted, the readline library exposes a "operate-and-get-next" function,
>> by default bound to \C-o, with the same behaviour as the cmd.exe one. I
>> find it very handy in the scenario you picted. So again, "feature" and
>> "bug" may be effectively subjective :-)
>
> H
On 2014-07-21, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2014-07-21, Shiyao Ma wrote:
>> No intent to pollute this thread.
>>
>> But really interested in the [email protected] mailing address.
>> And,,, obviously, I cannot send to [email protected], so
>
> FWIW, my real e-mail address is at the botto
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 17:57:22 +0200, Lele Gaifax wrote:
> Chris Angelico writes:
>
>> Take, for instance, the behaviour of Windows's cmd.exe editing keys:
>> enter three commands, then up-arrow three times and hit enter, then
>> press down, enter, down, enter. You'll repeat the three commands. In
On 2014-07-21, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 21/07/2014 15:27, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> On 2014-07-21, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>>> You call it a bug because you can't think of any way it could be
>>> beneficial. That's the wrong way of looking at it. Something isn't a
>>> bug because you find it anno
On 2014-07-21, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Shiyao Ma wrote:
>> No intent to pollute this thread.
>>
>> But really interested in the [email protected] mailing address.
>> And,,, obviously, I cannot send to [email protected], so
>>
>> How does you(he) make
On 2014-07-21, Shiyao Ma wrote:
> No intent to pollute this thread.
>
> But really interested in the [email protected] mailing address.
> And,,, obviously, I cannot send to [email protected], so
FWIW, my real e-mail address is at the bottom of every post.
> How does you(he) make this
> -Original Message-
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> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Grant Edwards
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 10:27 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy tha
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:57 AM, Lele Gaifax wrote:
> Granted, the readline library exposes a "operate-and-get-next" function,
> by default bound to \C-o, with the same behaviour as the cmd.exe
> one. I find it very handy in the scenario you picted. So again,
> "feature" and "bug" may be effective
Chris Angelico writes:
> Take, for instance, the behaviour of Windows's cmd.exe
> editing keys: enter three commands, then up-arrow three times and hit
> enter, then press down, enter, down, enter. You'll repeat the three
> commands. In other interfaces (eg GNU readline), you'd do the same job
>
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:19 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
> On 21/07/2014 15:27, Grant Edwards wrote:
>>
>> On 2014-07-21, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>>> You call it a bug because you can't think of any way it could be
>>> beneficial. That's the wrong way of looking at it. Something isn't a
>>> bug bec
On 21/07/2014 15:27, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2014-07-21, Chris Angelico wrote:
You call it a bug because you can't think of any way it could be
beneficial. That's the wrong way of looking at it. Something isn't a
bug because you find it annoying; it's a bug because it fails to
implement the pr
On 2014-07-21, Shiyao Ma wrote:
> But really interested in the [email protected] mailing address.
> And,,, obviously, I cannot send to [email protected], so
>
> How does you(he) make this?
Some usenet clients, such as slrn which it looks like Grant is using
according to the message he
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Shiyao Ma wrote:
> No intent to pollute this thread.
>
> But really interested in the [email protected] mailing address.
> And,,, obviously, I cannot send to [email protected], so
>
> How does you(he) make this?
When you send email, you have to have a
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 12:27 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2014-07-21, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> You call it a bug because you can't think of any way it could be
>> beneficial. That's the wrong way of looking at it. Something isn't a
>> bug because you find it annoying; it's a bug because it fa
No intent to pollute this thread.
But really interested in the [email protected] mailing address.
And,,, obviously, I cannot send to [email protected], so
How does you(he) make this?
2014-07-21 22:27 GMT+08:00 Grant Edwards :
> I was always taught that it's a "bug" is when a program
On 2014-07-21, Chris Angelico wrote:
> You call it a bug because you can't think of any way it could be
> beneficial. That's the wrong way of looking at it. Something isn't a
> bug because you find it annoying; it's a bug because it fails to
> implement the programmer's intentions and/or the docs
2014-07-21 4:30 GMT+02:00 Tim Chase :
> On 2014-07-20 19:06, Rick Johnson wrote:
>>
>> STEPS TO REPRODUCE BUG 1: "Attack of the clones!"
>>
>>
>> 1. Open the IDLE application
>
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 7/20/2014 10:38 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> on Windows. The file dialog appears in the alt-tab list, which seems
>> perfectly sane and sensible, and in fact alt-tab is the most logical
>> way to move between maximized windows anyway.
>
>
On 7/20/2014 10:38 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
on Windows. The file dialog appears in the alt-tab list, which seems
perfectly sane and sensible, and in fact alt-tab is the most logical
way to move between maximized windows anyway.
Thank you for the fact, and the suggestion.
--
Terry Jan Reedy
[snipped to bits]
On 21/07/2014 03:38, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
STEPS TO REPRODUCE BUG 1: "Attack of the clones!"
This is not an Idle bug at all. It's a window manager issue.
ChrisA
Attack of the clown?
--
My fellow Pythonistas, ask n
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
> STEPS TO REPRODUCE BUG 1: "Attack of the clones!"
>
> 1. Open the IDLE application
> 2. Maximize the window that appears
> 3. Go to the "File Menu" and choose the "Open" command
>
> Now repeat step 3 at least one more time, but feel free to
On 2014-07-20 19:06, Rick Johnson wrote:
>
> STEPS TO REPRODUCE BUG 1: "Attack of the clones!"
>
>
> 1. Open the IDLE application
> 2. Maximize the window that appears
> 3. Go
On 2014-07-20 23:40, Irmen de Jong wrote:
> > And since IDLE is not a "tabbed editor", only *1* document
> > is going to be displayed at a time.
>
> False. Idle opens any number of documents at the same time just
> fine (in different windows - rather than tabs).
This sounds like a failing of th
On Sunday, July 20, 2014 8:02:11 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
> File dialogs can be modal or modeless. [...] and there are
> good reasons for both operation styles [...] Are you
> seriously unaware of standard GUI widget functionality?
Chris i get so tired of your trolling, you cannot just post
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Tim Chase
wrote:
> On 2014-07-20 23:40, Irmen de Jong wrote:
>> > And since IDLE is not a "tabbed editor", only *1* document
>> > is going to be displayed at a time.
>>
>> False. Idle opens any number of documents at the same time just
>> fine (in different window
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 8:44 AM, Rick Johnson
wrote:
> Filedialogs should be "truly modal", and like any modal
> dialog, should present themselves to the user utilizing
> blocking -- that is the whole point of "modal dialogs", to
> *BLOCK* further execution of the application *UNTIL* the
> user pr
On 2014-07-20 23:40, Irmen de Jong wrote:
> > And since IDLE is not a "tabbed editor", only *1* document
> > is going to be displayed at a time.
>
> False. Idle opens any number of documents at the same time just
> fine (in different windows - rather than tabs).
This sounds like a failing of th
On Sunday, July 20, 2014 4:40:59 PM UTC-5, Irmen de Jong wrote:
> On 20-7-2014 23:14, Rick Johnson wrote:
> > And since IDLE is not a "tabbed editor", only *1*
> > document is going to be displayed at a time.
> False. Idle opens any number of documents at the same time
> just fine (in different win
On 20-7-2014 23:14, Rick Johnson wrote:
> And since IDLE is not a "tabbed editor", only *1* document
> is going to be displayed at a time.
False. Idle opens any number of documents at the same time just fine (in
different
windows - rather than tabs).
While I don't see the use case for the possib
On 20/07/2014 22:14, Rick Johnson wrote:
[loads of stuff snipped]
Why bother writing all that here, why not put it all on the bug tracker,
or has that already been done, either by you or someone else?
--
My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask
what you can do
BUG 1: FileDialog Duplicity:
If you open the IDLE application (either utilizing the
"shell window" or "editor window") and then go to the "File"
menu and choose the "Open" co
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