Re: Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Nov 17)

2008-11-19 Thread Daniel Fetchinson
>> > One of the reasons I would like to formulate a good >> > model of an object's value and type is so that I could >> > try to offer something better. Responses like yours >> > are significantly demotivating. >> >> And yet you argue when people try to explain to you that objects don't >> *have*

Re: Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Nov 17)

2008-11-18 Thread rurpy
On Nov 18, 10:22 am, Steve Holden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > [...] > > > One of the reasons I would like to formulate a good > > model of an object's value and type is so that I could > > try to offer something better. Responses like yours > > are significantly demot

Re: Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Nov 17)

2008-11-18 Thread Steve Holden
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] > One of the reasons I would like to formulate a good > model of an object's value and type is so that I could > try to offer something better. Responses like yours > are significantly demotivating. And yet you argue when people try to explain to you that objects do

Re: Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Nov 17)

2008-11-17 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:53:25 -0200, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: On Nov 17, 4:06 pm, "Gabriel Genellina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: En Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:44:23 -0200, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: On Nov 17, 8:54 am, "Gabriel Genellina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Candidate to *Longest and

Re: Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Nov 17)

2008-11-17 Thread rurpy
On Nov 17, 11:10 am, "Francesco Guerrieri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 6:44 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Nov 17, 8:54 am, "Gabriel Genellina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>> Candidate to *Longest and Most Boring Thread of the Year* - started >>> more than

Re: Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Nov 17)

2008-11-17 Thread rurpy
On Nov 17, 11:17 am, George Sakkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 17, 12:44 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> On Nov 17, 8:54 am, "Gabriel Genellina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> > Candidate to *Longest and Most Boring Thread of the Year* - started >> > more than a month ago, curr

Re: Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Nov 17)

2008-11-17 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:21:07 -0200, Joe Strout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: On Nov 17, 2008, at 4:06 PM, Gabriel Genellina wrote: I don't feel anybody would improve their Python skills chasing what the "value" of an object is, least to make contortions so some arbitrary definition of "cal

Re: Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Nov 17)

2008-11-17 Thread rurpy
On Nov 17, 4:06 pm, "Gabriel Genellina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > En Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:44:23 -0200, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: >> On Nov 17, 8:54 am, "Gabriel Genellina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>> Candidate to *Longest and Most Boring Thread of the Year* - started >>> more th

Re: Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Nov 17)

2008-11-17 Thread Joe Strout
On Nov 17, 2008, at 4:06 PM, Gabriel Genellina wrote: I don't feel anybody would improve their Python skills chasing what the "value" of an object is, least to make contortions so some arbitrary definition of "call by value" be applicable to the language. Actually, contortions are required

Re: Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Nov 17)

2008-11-17 Thread Gabriel Genellina
En Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:44:23 -0200, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: On Nov 17, 8:54 am, "Gabriel Genellina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Candidate to *Longest and Most Boring Thread of the Year* - started more than a month ago, currently discussing "The official definition of call-by-val

Re: Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Nov 17)

2008-11-17 Thread Arnaud Delobelle
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I guess this goes a long way to explaining why the Python docs > suck so badly in many areas. I like the python docs very much. -- Arnaud -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Nov 17)

2008-11-17 Thread George Sakkis
On Nov 17, 12:44 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Nov 17, 8:54 am, "Gabriel Genellina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >     Candidate to *Longest and Most Boring Thread of the Year* - started > >     more than a month ago, currently discussing "The official definition > >     of call-by-value",

Re: Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Nov 17)

2008-11-17 Thread Francesco Guerrieri
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 6:44 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 17, 8:54 am, "Gabriel Genellina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> Candidate to *Longest and Most Boring Thread of the Year* - started >> more than a month ago, currently discussing "The official definition >> of call-b

Re: Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Nov 17)

2008-11-17 Thread rurpy
On Nov 17, 8:54 am, "Gabriel Genellina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Candidate to *Longest and Most Boring Thread of the Year* - started > more than a month ago, currently discussing "The official definition > of call-by-value", and "What't the value of an object": > http://grou

Python-URL! - weekly Python news and links (Nov 17)

2008-11-17 Thread Gabriel Genellina
QOTW: "I stopped paying much attention to this thread a while ago, but you've got to admire the persistence of somebody who soldiers on even though Aahz, Fredrik Lund, and Steve Holden are all on the other side of the argument..." - Grant Edwards http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python