On 3/25/14 6:38 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
A couple of us managed to "steal" the school login/password (don't
think we ever used it, but...)... The teaching assistant didn't notice the
paper tape punch was active when persuaded to login to let us run a short
program (high school BASIC
On 3/24/14 6:30 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
{And I recall standard practice was to hit \r, to return the carriage, \n
for next line, and one RUBOUT to provide a delay while the carriage
returned to the left}
Yes, yes... I remember well, there had to be a delay (of some type) to
wait for the h
On 3/23/14 10:17 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
Newline style IS relevant. You're saying that this will copy a file perfectly:
out = open("out", "w")
for line in open("in"):
out.write(line)
but it wouldn't if the iteration and write stripped and recreated
newlines? Incorrect, because this versi
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 12:37:43 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> And lines are delimited entities. A text file is a sequence of lines,
>> separated by certain characters.
>
> Are they really separated, or are they terminated?
>
> a\nb\n
>
>
On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 12:37:43 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
>> On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 02:09:20 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 1:50 AM, Steven D'Aprano
>>> wrote:
Line endings are terminators: they end the l
On 23Mar2014 12:37, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
> > On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 02:09:20 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
> >> On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 1:50 AM, Steven D'Aprano
> >> wrote:
> >>> Line endings are terminators: they end the line. Whether yo
On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 02:09:20 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 1:50 AM, Steven D'Aprano
>> wrote:
>>> Line endings are terminators: they end the line. Whether you consider
>>> the terminator part of the line or not
On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 02:09:20 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 1:50 AM, Steven D'Aprano
> wrote:
>> Line endings are terminators: they end the line. Whether you consider
>> the terminator part of the line or not is a matter of opinion (is the
>> cover of a book part of the bo
On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 1:50 AM, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
> Line endings are terminators: they end the line. Whether you consider the
> terminator part of the line or not is a matter of opinion (is the cover
> of a book part of the book?) but consider this:
>
> If you say that the end of lines a
On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 22:58:37 -0500, Mark H Harris wrote:
> I notice (since moving my stuff to Thunderbird two weeks back) the
> double spacing you keep squawking about, but I don't find it the big
> nuisance you're talking about; ok, so we have to scroll a bit further.
It's not the scrolling that
On Saturday, March 22, 2014 3:39:21 AM UTC+2, Terry Reedy wrote:
> Does your .b2 install work? Can you delete it thru the programs list?
I uninstalled it before this entire adventure.
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On 22/03/2014 08:54, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
Le samedi 22 mars 2014 05:59:34 UTC+1, Mark H. Harris a écrit :
On 3/21/14 11:46 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
(Side point: You have your 0d and your 0a backwards; the Unix line
ending is U+000A, and the Windows default is U+000D U+000A.)
On 22/03/2014 03:58, Mark H Harris wrote:
On 3/21/14 5:44 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
I'm pleased to see that you have answers. In return would you either use
the mailing list https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list or
read and action this https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPytho
On 3/22/2014 5:50 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 01:24:33 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote:
If I were in charge of the software used for this list, I would replace
Mark with a custom addition to return mis-formated posts (more blank
lines than not) with instructions on how to fix them.
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 01:24:33 -0400, Terry Reedy wrote:
> On 3/22/2014 12:30 AM, Mark H Harris wrote:
>> On 3/21/14 11:15 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>> It compounds. One reply makes for double spacing... two makes
>>> quadruple, three means we have seven wasted lines between every pair
>>> of real
Le samedi 22 mars 2014 05:59:34 UTC+1, Mark H. Harris a écrit :
> On 3/21/14 11:46 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
> > (Side point: You have your 0d and your 0a backwards; the Unix line
>
> > ending is U+000A, and the Windows default is U+000D U+000A.)
>
>
>
> Yeah, I know... smart apple.
>
>
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
> If I were in charge of the software used for this list, I would replace Mark
> with a custom addition to return mis-formated posts (more blank lines than
> not) with instructions on how to fix them. But I am not.
I love how this makes it sound
On 3/22/2014 12:30 AM, Mark H Harris wrote:
On 3/21/14 11:15 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
It compounds. One reply makes for double spacing... two makes
quadruple, three means we have seven wasted lines between every pair
of real lines. That gets pretty annoying. And considering that most
people who
On 3/21/14 11:46 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
(Side point: You have your 0d and your 0a backwards; the Unix line
ending is U+000A, and the Windows default is U+000D U+000A.)
Yeah, I know... smart apple.
How are you going to make people change? What are you going to make
them change to? Who co
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Mark H Harris wrote:
> All files should have standard delimiters. What I used to call flat-text
> files should have standard line-end delimiters, and standard file-end EOF
> markers. All OS's should comply with the standard... for instance, there
> should not be a
On 3/21/14 11:30 PM, Mark H Harris wrote:
All OS's should comply with the standard... for instance, there should
not be a windows x'0a' x'0d' line ending, and a unix x'0d' line ending.
whoops... I meant unix x'0a' line ending...;-)
'\n'
:-))
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On 3/21/14 11:15 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
It compounds. One reply makes for double spacing... two makes
quadruple, three means we have seven wasted lines between every pair
of real lines. That gets pretty annoying. And considering that most
people who reply without cleaning up the lines also kee
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Mark H Harris wrote:
> On 3/21/14 5:44 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>>
>> I'm pleased to see that you have answers. In return would you either use
>> the mailing list https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list or
>> read and action this https://wiki.python.or
On 3/21/14 5:44 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote:
I'm pleased to see that you have answers. In return would you either use
the mailing list https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list or
read and action this https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython to
prevent us seeing double line spacing
On 3/21/2014 6:55 PM, cool-RR wrote:
On Saturday, March 22, 2014 12:25:03 AM UTC+2, Chris Angelico wrote:
(First and a halfth question: When you say "won't install", exactly
what do you mean?
For completeness, I'll answer this question I forgot to answer, in case someone still
wants to invest
On Saturday, March 22, 2014 12:25:03 AM UTC+2, Chris Angelico wrote:
> (First and a halfth question: When you say "won't install", exactly
> what do you mean?
For completeness, I'll answer this question I forgot to answer, in case someone
still wants to investigate: It just showed the first dialo
On Saturday, March 22, 2014 12:42:56 AM UTC+2, Chris Angelico wrote:
> I think you should follow the internet version of Hanlon's Razor here:
> Damaged transmission before deliberate tampering. :) It's far more
> likely something simply got misdownloaded, and your guess about
> timezones is the mos
On 21/03/2014 22:34, cool-RR wrote:
I'm pleased to see that you have answers. In return would you either
use the mailing list
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list or read and action
this https://wiki.python.org/moin/GoogleGroupsPython to prevent us
seeing double line spacing
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 9:34 AM, cool-RR wrote:
> I did download from python.org. I checked the md5, it was incorrect, then I
> downloaded again by using a proxy in Austria. (Which hopefully the communists
> haven't be able to infiltrate? ;)
>
I think you should follow the internet version of H
Here's the offending MSI, if anyone wants to investigate:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1927707/python-3.4.0.amd64.msi
On Saturday, March 22, 2014 12:34:06 AM UTC+2, cool-RR wrote:
> I did download from python.org. I checked the md5, it was incorrect, then I
> downloaded again by using a
I did download from python.org. I checked the md5, it was incorrect, then I
downloaded again by using a proxy in Austria. (Which hopefully the communists
haven't be able to infiltrate? ;)
Now it worked! Woohoo!
I'm still curious about the bad installation file... And what Ho Chi Minh is
doing
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 9:05 AM, cool-RR wrote:
> I downloaded it, but the MSI won't install. It didn't work on both of my
> computers (Windows 7 64bit).
>
> What the hell. Was python.org hacked by communists?
First question: Where did you download from? What file did you get?
(First and a half
Sorry, couldn't attach the file, here's the log file:
https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9697505
On Saturday, March 22, 2014 12:05:59 AM UTC+2, cool-RR wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
>
>
> I need to install Python 3.4 final urgently, because my IDE stopped
> supporting Python 3.4 beta2, and I need i
Hi everybody,
I need to install Python 3.4 final urgently, because my IDE stopped supporting
Python 3.4 beta2, and I need it urgently to work.
I downloaded it, but the MSI won't install. It didn't work on both of my
computers (Windows 7 64bit).
I managed to have the MSI dump data to log, file
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