Re: Python and Math

2014-05-22 Thread Frank Millman
wrote in message news:281f5806-8793-4fd2-877c-214927dda...@googlegroups.com... > > pip looked and saw that you already had it, so did nothing -- what did it > report? In this caes: > > 'pip install -U ipython[notebook]' > > might have worked: -U means upgrade even if I already have it. > Indee

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-21 Thread wxjmfauth
Le jeudi 22 mai 2014 01:14:29 UTC+2, chris@noaa.gov a écrit : > On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 5:51:27 AM UTC-7, Frank Millman wrote: > > > > > I used it to install IPython, with the following results. > > > > > > First I ran 'pip install ipython', which worked. > > > > > > Then I read the I

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-21 Thread chris . barker
On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 5:51:27 AM UTC-7, Frank Millman wrote: > I used it to install IPython, with the following results. > > First I ran 'pip install ipython', which worked. > > Then I read the IPython docs, which gave the following command to install > > Notebook - > > 'pip install ip

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-21 Thread Robert Kern
On 2014-05-21 01:40, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: On Sun, 18 May 2014 14:09:43 -0400, "Bill Cunningham" declaimed the following: linear algebra, expanding and factoring equations of all degrees. Geometry. Without significant add-in libraries, probably not... "Expanding and f

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-21 Thread Robert Kern
On 2014-05-21 01:59, Tony the Tiger wrote: On Sun, 18 May 2014 14:09:43 -0400, Bill Cunningham wrote: linear algebra, expanding and factoring equations of all degrees. Geometry. Sounds to me like you really want something like Maple, Mathematica, or similar. Try http://www.scilab.org/ C

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-20 Thread Rustom Mody
On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 7:12:19 PM UTC+5:30, jmf wrote: > I give up. > Anyway, thanks. Take a deep breath. Be patient. And post the backtrace (or whatever is the evidence of 'not working') -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-20 Thread Rustom Mody
On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 5:25:40 PM UTC+5:30, Tim Golden wrote: > On 20/05/2014 12:20, Rustom Mody wrote: > > > On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 3:43:45 PM UTC+5:30, Tim Golden wrote: > >> If it's possible, download get-pip.py from here: > >> > >> https://bootstrap.pypa.io/get-pip.py > > > > Gives me sec

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-20 Thread wxjmfauth
Le mardi 20 mai 2014 12:13:45 UTC+2, Tim Golden a écrit : > On 20/05/2014 10:19, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Le lundi 19 mai 2014 21:18:54 UTC+2, Tim Golden a �crit : > > >> On 19/05/2014 20:07, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: > > >> > > > Yesterday, I spent one hour attemepting to insta

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-20 Thread Frank Millman
"Tim Golden" wrote in message news:537b42bc.3030...@timgolden.me.uk... > On 20/05/2014 12:20, Rustom Mody wrote: >> On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 3:43:45 PM UTC+5:30, Tim Golden wrote: >>> If it's possible, download get-pip.py from here: >>> >>> https://bootstrap.pypa.io/get-pip.py >> >> Gives me sec

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-20 Thread Tim Golden
On 20/05/2014 12:20, Rustom Mody wrote: > On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 3:43:45 PM UTC+5:30, Tim Golden wrote: >> If it's possible, download get-pip.py from here: >> >> https://bootstrap.pypa.io/get-pip.py > > Gives me secure connection failed error (in firefox) > I've reported on the PyPA issues lis

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-20 Thread Rustom Mody
On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 3:43:45 PM UTC+5:30, Tim Golden wrote: > If it's possible, download get-pip.py from here: > > https://bootstrap.pypa.io/get-pip.py Gives me secure connection failed error (in firefox) -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-20 Thread Tim Golden
On 20/05/2014 10:19, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: > Le lundi 19 mai 2014 21:18:54 UTC+2, Tim Golden a écrit : >> On 19/05/2014 20:07, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: >> > Yesterday, I spent one hour attemepting to install IPython > for Py3.3 (win 7), I failed. I do not even succeed to > under

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-20 Thread wxjmfauth
Le lundi 19 mai 2014 21:18:54 UTC+2, Tim Golden a écrit : > On 19/05/2014 20:07, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: > > >>> Yesterday, I spent one hour attemepting to install IPython > > >> > > >>> for Py3.3 (win 7), I failed. I do not even succeed to > > >> > > >>> understand how. Pip, setuptools, wh

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-19 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 19May2014 12:07, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: Le lundi 19 mai 2014 18:09:24 UTC+2, Rustom Mody a écrit : > Yesterday, I spent one hour attemepting to install IPython > for Py3.3 (win 7), I failed. I do not even succeed to > understand how. Pip, setuptools, whl or manualy with from the > zip...

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-19 Thread Tim Golden
On 19/05/2014 20:07, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote: Yesterday, I spent one hour attemepting to install IPython for Py3.3 (win 7), I failed. I do not even succeed to understand how. Pip, setuptools, whl or manualy with from the zip... completely lost. There is always something not working.

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-19 Thread wxjmfauth
Le lundi 19 mai 2014 18:09:24 UTC+2, Rustom Mody a écrit : > On Monday, May 19, 2014 8:26:11 PM UTC+5:30, jmf wrote: > > > > > Yesterday, I spent one hour attemepting to install IPython > > > for Py3.3 (win 7), I failed. I do not even succeed to > > > understand how. Pip, setuptools, whl or ma

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-19 Thread Rustom Mody
On Monday, May 19, 2014 8:26:11 PM UTC+5:30, jmf wrote: > Yesterday, I spent one hour attemepting to install IPython > for Py3.3 (win 7), I failed. I do not even succeed to > understand how. Pip, setuptools, whl or manualy with from the > zip... completely lost. There is always something not worki

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 19 May 2014 09:24:18 Chris Angelico did opine And Gene did reply: > On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Rustom Mody wrote: > > On Monday, May 19, 2014 6:39:49 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Rustom Mody wrote: > >> > The provers call the calculat

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-19 Thread wxjmfauth
Le lundi 19 mai 2014 12:15:22 UTC+2, Fabien a écrit : > Hi everyone, > > > > I am new on this forum (I come from IDL and am starting to learn python) > > > > This thread perfectly illustrates why Python is so scary to newcomers: > > one question, three answers: yes, no, maybe. > > > > Py

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Rustom Mody wrote: > On Monday, May 19, 2014 6:39:49 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote: >> On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Rustom Mody wrote: >> > The provers call the calculators as "Just applied not pure mathematicians" >> > The calculators say of the provers

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-19 Thread Rustom Mody
On Monday, May 19, 2014 6:39:49 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Rustom Mody wrote: > > The provers call the calculators as "Just applied not pure mathematicians" > > The calculators say of the provers: "They are not mathematicians but > > logicians" > > (or

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-19 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Rustom Mody wrote: > The provers call the calculators as "Just applied not pure mathematicians" > The calculators say of the provers: "They are not mathematicians but > logicians" > (or philosophers)" [Chris had a funny quote on this a few weeks ago] Which Chris

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-19 Thread Rustom Mody
On Monday, May 19, 2014 3:45:22 PM UTC+5:30, Fabien wrote: > Hi everyone, > I am new on this forum (I come from IDL and am starting to learn python) > This thread perfectly illustrates why Python is so scary to newcomers: > one question, three answers: yes, no, maybe. > Python-fans sure would a

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-19 Thread Tim Golden
On 19/05/2014 11:15, Fabien wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I am new on this forum (I come from IDL and am starting to learn python) > > This thread perfectly illustrates why Python is so scary to newcomers: > one question, three answers: yes, no, maybe. Welcome to the Python world, Fabien. But I'm s

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-19 Thread Fabien
Hi everyone, I am new on this forum (I come from IDL and am starting to learn python) This thread perfectly illustrates why Python is so scary to newcomers: one question, three answers: yes, no, maybe. Python-fans sure would argue "freedom of choice" is the most important, but "being able to

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-18 Thread Robert Kern
On 2014-05-18 16:40, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2014-05-18, Bill Cunningham wrote: Does Python have good mathematical capabilities? No. It has very good numerical computation capabilities, but it does not really do "math" (at least not what a mathemetician would consider "math"). Many m

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-18 Thread Bill Cunningham
"Grant Edwards" wrote in message news:llak9u$8rs$1...@reader1.panix.com... > On 2014-05-18, Bill Cunningham wrote: > >> Does Python have good mathematical capabilities? > > No. > > It has very good numerical computation capabilities, but it does not > really do "math" (at least not what a m

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-18 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2014-05-18, Bill Cunningham wrote: > Does Python have good mathematical capabilities? No. It has very good numerical computation capabilities, but it does not really do "math" (at least not what a mathemetician would consider "math"). > I am interested in learning a second language for

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-18 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 18/05/2014 14:25, Roy Smith wrote: In article <53783c5f$0$29977$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com>, Steven D'Aprano wrote: You may find that the IPython interactive interface to Python is useful. It presents an interface which should be familiar to anyone with experience with Mathematica

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-18 Thread Wolfgang Keller
> Does Python have good mathematical capabilities? SAGE: http://www.sagemath.org/ Sincerely, Wolfgang -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-18 Thread Roy Smith
In article <53783c5f$0$29977$c3e8da3$54964...@news.astraweb.com>, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > You may find that the IPython interactive interface to Python is useful. > It presents an interface which should be familiar to anyone with > experience with Mathematica. I second the IPython suggestio

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-17 Thread Bill Cunningham
"Steven D'Aprano" wrote in message news:53783c5f$0$29977$c3e8da3 > You say you want to learn a *second* language, but you don't say what > your first language is. Nor do you say what sort of mathematics you wish > to do, or at what level. Depending on what you want to do, you might be > best of

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-17 Thread Bill Cunningham
"Rustom Mody" wrote in message news:09bbda59-9c37-44b0-acfc-0571d4fe8...@googlegroups.com... > What does the word 'mathematical' connote for you? > On the whole the term is so wide that its hard to answer without some > more context. > > For example there's numpy,scipy for numerical and scienti

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-17 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 17 May 2014 23:13:11 -0400, Bill Cunningham wrote: > Does Python have good mathematical capabilities? I am interested in > learning a second language for mathematical purposes. I am considering > looking at python, perl, fortran, Adas out. It looked too complicated to > learn. Perl looked

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-17 Thread Gary Herron
On 05/17/2014 08:13 PM, Bill Cunningham wrote: Does Python have good mathematical capabilities? I am interested in learning a second language for mathematical purposes. I am considering looking at python, perl, fortran, Adas out. It looked too complicated to learn. Perl looked easy and I hav

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-17 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Bill Cunningham wrote: > Does Python have good mathematical capabilities? I am interested in > learning a second language for mathematical purposes. I am considering > looking at python, perl, fortran, Adas out. It looked too complicated to > learn. Perl looked

Re: Python and Math

2014-05-17 Thread Rustom Mody
On Sunday, May 18, 2014 8:43:11 AM UTC+5:30, Bill Cunningham wrote: > Does Python have good mathematical capabilities? I am interested in > > learning a second language for mathematical purposes. I am considering > > looking at python, perl, fortran, Adas out. It looked too complicated to > >

Python and Math

2014-05-17 Thread Bill Cunningham
Does Python have good mathematical capabilities? I am interested in learning a second language for mathematical purposes. I am considering looking at python, perl, fortran, Adas out. It looked too complicated to learn. Perl looked easy and I haven't really looked into python. Bill -- htt