On 7 apr, 09:39, Steven D'Aprano steve
+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
It's astonishing how anti-Mono FUD just won't die. (Something can be
true, and still FUD. Oh no, people might *choke* on a peanut, or have an
allergic reaction, we must label every piece of food May Contain Nuts
On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 00:25:46 -0500, harrismh777 wrote:
The gnu suite of tools and the linux kernel were the keys to unlocking
Microsoft lock-in... brilliant technologies for innovation and freedom.
I used to believe this too, but then I found I was relying on Linux and
GNU software so much
On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 07:50:56 +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info writes:
Mono is free, open source software that is compatible with .NET
[…]
It's difficult to take a claim of “free” seriously for a technology
(Mono) that knowingly implements
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Steven D'Aprano
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
Do you want to know who scares me? Google and Apple. Google, because
they're turning software from something you run on your own computer to
something you use on a distant server you have no control
On Apr 7, 7:17 pm, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Steven D'Aprano
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
Do you want to know who scares me? Google and Apple. Google, because
they're turning software from something you run on your own computer to
On Thursday, April 7, 2011 2:43:09 AM UTC-4, Steven D#39;Aprano wrote:
On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 00:25:46 -0500, harrismh777 wrote:
The gnu suite of tools and the linux kernel were the keys to unlocking
Microsoft lock-in... brilliant technologies for innovation and freedom.
I used to believe
Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
Perhaps what you mean is, none of the licences granted are *irrevocable*.
But the same applies to the GPL -- break the GPL's (generous) terms, and
you too could find that your licence is revoked.
Actually, you could argue since the
Brendan Simon wrote:
Any other arguments where Python has benefits over Cobra ??
Python is built from C, Cobra is built from Cobra... Python does not
require Microsoft .NET, nor MONO framework, Python has better community
support, has a larger install base and developer community,
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 6:03 PM, harrismh777 harrismh...@charter.net wrote:
Having said all of that, I must admit my bias against Microsoft .NET and the
Mono frameworks. I personally cannot support a language that requires either
one. Microsoft has made such a mess out of almost everything it
On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 18:26:25 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
Right now, I have around me two laptops running Windows XP, two running
Ubuntu 10.10 64-bit, and two running Ubuntu 32-bit. (Surprisingly
balanced.) With a very few exceptions, code that I write in IDLE on one
box will run perfectly on
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Steven D'Aprano
steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info wrote:
Mono is free, open source software that is compatible with .NET and is
available on Linux, Mac OS, Solaris, Unix and even that little-known
operating system Windows. *wink*
Ah! My apologies, I stand
Steven D'Aprano steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info writes:
Mono is free, open source software that is compatible with .NET
[…]
It's difficult to take a claim of “free” seriously for a technology
(Mono) that knowingly implements techniques (the “C#” language, the
“.NET” platform, etc.) covered
Chris Angelico wrote:
there's a lot of
risk in tying yourself to a non-free framework, especially such a
heavy one as .NET. You're completely at the mercy of the provider, in
this case Microsoft, and if they make an incompatible change in the
framework, you're forever stuck.
Yes, lock-in is
I just came across the Cobra language, which appears to be heavily
influenced by Python (and other languages). The pitch sounds great.
It's supposed to have:
1. Quick, expressive coding
2. Fast execution
3. Static and dynamic binding
4. Language level support for quality
On 05-Apr-11 06:22 AM, Brendan Simon (eTRIX) wrote:
I just came across the Cobra language, which appears to be heavily
influenced by Python (and other languages). The pitch sounds great. It's
supposed to have:
1. Quick, expressive coding
2. Fast execution
3. Static and dynamic binding
Cobra seems interessant, open-source, but the dependance on Mono and
.Net annoy me a bit.
Otherwise, cobra have good ideas, a syntax similar to python.
One thing i really love is the How-To and the Samples pages on
it's website, i think it's a very good thing for beginners.
FELD Boris
2011/4/5
On 05-Apr-11 06:22 AM, Brendan Simon (eTRIX) wrote:
Any other arguments where Python has benefits over Cobra ??
Cheers, Brendan.
Two questions:
1. Is Cobra Open Source?
2. The blog ended on October, did he run out of steam?
I liked the '.', in place of '.self', but
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