Re: What Python books to you recommend to beginners?

2018-12-03 Thread DL Neil
Songbird, [post ok'd by them] =this time I've remembered to hit ReplyAll. Duh! There are plenty of Python books 'about'. Beyond the 'basics' they tend to become more topical, eg Scientific, Financial, Data Analysis... so what suits you might not me. i'm pretty well read so i can

Re: What Python books to you recommend to beginners?

2018-12-03 Thread songbird
; grossly non-Pythonic approach. So, I'll join a previous correspondent by > recommending you stay away from anything 'tainted' by Java-think. i would agree with that anyways... > There are plenty of Python books 'about'. Beyond the 'basics' they tend to > become more topical, eg Scien

Re: What Python books to you recommend to beginners?

2018-12-03 Thread songbird
boB Stepp wrote: ... > You might want to look at "Python 3 -- Object Oriented Programming" by > Dusty Phillips. It is copyright 2010, so it won't have the latest, > greatest Python 3 features, but the book's entire focus is teaching > OOP in a Python 3 context. thanks, i'll put it on the list

Re: What Python books to you recommend to beginners?

2018-12-02 Thread boB Stepp
On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 1:51 PM songbird wrote: > my goal in learning python was to use it as a way of > picking up OOP concepts in a more concrete way (theory > alone doesn't give me enough hands on the bits i need so > i tend to just do other things instead). > > now that i've used python

Re: What Python books to you recommend to beginners?

2018-12-02 Thread songbird
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Sun, 2 Dec 2018 12:40:44 -0500, songbird > declaimed the following: > >> as references those are useful, but howabout >>something a bit more conceptual or design oriented? >> > > At that level, you are not looking for &qu

Re: What Python books to you recommend to beginners?

2018-12-02 Thread songbird
Stefan Ram wrote: ... thank you. :) as references those are useful, but howabout something a bit more conceptual or design oriented? i have a pretty good idea about various language features or things to try, but i need a little more higher level view of how to go about building a

Re: What Python books to you recommend to beginners?

2018-11-28 Thread Santiago Basulto
Python for Data Analysis is a great choice for sure. I think Think Python <http://greenteapress.com/thinkpython/html/index.html>, by Allen Downey is also a great alternative for beginners. I've written a short piece with 3 free books to get started: https://blog.rmotr.com/the-3-python-boo

Re: What Python books to you recommend to beginners?

2018-11-28 Thread Brian Oney via Python-list
On Wed, 2018-11-28 at 08:44 -0600, Skip Montanaro wrote: > What do people recommend? The target is Python 3.6 and 3.7. The > audience at work is a mostly financial/statistical crowd, so exposure > to things like Pandas would be nice, though I'm sure there are > dedicated books for just that.

What Python books to you recommend to beginners?

2018-11-28 Thread Skip Montanaro
I've been using Python since long before Mark Lutz's book was first released, so I've never paid much attention to what's out there. Still, every now and then, someone asks me for a recommendation (as just happened a few minutes ago). "Learning Python" was last released in 2013 (Python 3.3), so

Useful Python books and Web sites for system administrators

2013-06-13 Thread Richard Zinar
Hi, If anyone has some favorite books or Web sites which explore using Python for various system administration tasks, I'd be interested in hearing about them. I'm primarily interested in resources which focus on Linux, but since I work in a multi-platform environment, pointers to sites which

Opportunity to author Python books- Packt Publishing.

2010-03-09 Thread Kshipra Singh
Hi All, I am writing to you for Packt Publishing, the publishers computer related books. We are planning to extend our catalogue of cookbooks and are currently inviting Python fanatics interested in writing a cookbook. So, if you love Python and are interested in writing a cookbook, please

Re: Opportunity to author Python books- Packt Publishing.

2010-03-09 Thread sstein...@gmail.com
On Mar 8, 2010, at 6:25 AM, Kshipra Singh wrote: I would be delighted to write a cookbook on the stuff I use every day: python for administering cloud servers. Thanks, S aka/Steve Steiner aka/ssteinerX Hi All, I am writing to you for Packt Publishing, the publishers computer related

Re: Scripting (was Re: Python books, literature etc)

2010-01-09 Thread McColgst
Just to kind of get back on topic: Before buying a book or making a terribly large investment, OP should consider the fact that Python 3 is out and gaining some popularity. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Scripting (was Re: Python books, literature etc)

2010-01-09 Thread bartc
Peter vm...@mycircuit.org wrote in message news:mailman.661.1262978839.28905.python-l...@python.org... Sounds good. Regarding the book's title: is it just me, or are Python programmers in general put off when people call it scripting? I won't attempt a strict definition of the term

Scripting (was Re: Python books, literature etc)

2010-01-08 Thread Jorgen Grahn
On Thu, 2010-01-07, Peter wrote: [...] depending on your application domain, I liked: 1) Hans Petter Langtangen: Python Scripting for Computational Science A truly excellent book, not only with respect to Python Scripting , but also on how to avoid paying license fees by using opensource

Re: Scripting (was Re: Python books, literature etc)

2010-01-08 Thread J
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 09:37, Jorgen Grahn grahn+n...@snipabacken.se wrote: Regarding the book's title: is it just me, or are Python programmers in general put off when people call it scripting? I won't attempt a strict definition of the term scripting language, but it seems like

Re: Scripting (was Re: Python books, literature etc)

2010-01-08 Thread MRAB
Jorgen Grahn wrote: On Thu, 2010-01-07, Peter wrote: [...] depending on your application domain, I liked: 1) Hans Petter Langtangen: Python Scripting for Computational Science A truly excellent book, not only with respect to Python Scripting , but also on how to avoid paying license fees

Re: Scripting (was Re: Python books, literature etc)

2010-01-08 Thread Peter
Sounds good. Regarding the book's title: is it just me, or are Python programmers in general put off when people call it scripting? I won't attempt a strict definition of the term scripting language, but it seems like non-programmers use it to mean less scary than what you might think of as

Re: Scripting (was Re: Python books, literature etc)

2010-01-08 Thread Florian Diesch
Jorgen Grahn grahn+n...@snipabacken.se writes: Regarding the book's title: is it just me, or are Python programmers in general put off when people call it scripting? I won't attempt a strict definition of the term scripting language, but it seems like non-programmers use it to mean less

Re: Python books, literature etc

2010-01-07 Thread Stuart Murray-Smith
, could someone kindly mention any of their preferred Python books, websites, tutorials etc to help me get to an intermediate/advanced level? Something that would help me add functionality to Ubiquity, say. Have a great day! Stu@ [1] http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- http

Re: Python books, literature etc

2010-01-07 Thread Gabriel Genellina
Stuart Murray-Smith eigh...@gmail.com wrote in news:aadebb9f1001070146n70f5be7bw2e515f9d4afed...@mail.gmail.com: Anyways, to rephrase, could someone kindly mention any of their preferred Python books, websites, tutorials etc to help me get to an intermediate/advanced level? Something

Re: Python books, literature etc

2010-01-07 Thread Gabriel Genellina
Stuart Murray-Smith eigh...@gmail.com wrote in news:aadebb9f1001070146n70f5be7bw2e515f9d4afed...@mail.gmail.com: Anyways, to rephrase, could someone kindly mention any of their preferred Python books, websites, tutorials etc to help me get to an intermediate/advanced level? Something

Re: Python books, literature etc

2010-01-07 Thread Stuart Murray-Smith
Have a look at the Getting Started section of the wiki: http://wiki.python.org/moin/ specially the PythonBooks section Perfect! Exactly what I'm looking for :) Thanks Gabriel! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python books, literature etc

2010-01-07 Thread Jorgen Grahn
of their preferred Python books, websites, tutorials etc to help me get to an intermediate/advanced level? Something that would help me add functionality to Ubiquity, say. I may be alone in this, but Alex Martelli's book (Python in a nutshell?) on Python 2.2 and a bit of 2.3, plus the official

Re: Python books, literature etc

2010-01-07 Thread Peter
Anyways, to rephrase, could someone kindly mention any of their preferred Python books, websites, tutorials etc to help me get to an intermediate/advanced level? Something that would help me add functionality to Ubiquity, say. I may be alone in this, but Alex Martelli's book (Python

Python books, literature etc

2010-01-06 Thread Stuart Murray-Smith
Greetings list I can code in Python (strong beginner), and would like to read more books and/or online resources. Could someone please point out any good books, websites, tutorials etc to help me get to the next level. Your help insight highly appreciated :) Stuart --

Re: Python books, literature etc

2010-01-06 Thread Shawn Milochik
Search Google. You'll find it all. Search this list's archives. This kind of thing has been discussed a thousand times. It also wouldn't hurt to brush up on this: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python books, literature etc

2010-01-06 Thread J
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 09:35, Shawn Milochik sh...@milochik.com wrote: Search Google. You'll find it all. Search this list's archives. This kind of thing has been discussed a thousand times. It also wouldn't hurt to brush up on this: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Heh...

Re: Python books, literature etc

2010-01-06 Thread J
A good point was brought up to me privately, and I agree completely, that the OP should re-state the request with a bit more specifics... Since the OP says he is at least familiar with Python, does he need info on beginner level books that are general purpose, or is he interested in resources

Re: Advanced Python books?

2009-05-19 Thread Mike Driscoll
On May 18, 3:04 pm, kj so...@987jk.com.invalid wrote: I have read a couple of learn Python-type books, and now I'm looking for some more advanced books on Python, something analogous to Effective Java or High-Order Perl.  I've only been able to find Advanced Python 3 Programming Techniques,

Re: Advanced Python books?

2009-05-19 Thread Thomas Guettler
kj schrieb: I have read a couple of learn Python-type books, and now I'm looking for some more advanced books on Python, ... Basically I'm looking for a book that assumes that one has the basics of the language down, and instead focuses on standard problems of software development, such as

Re: Advanced Python books?

2009-05-19 Thread James Matthews
I found Core Python Programming to cater to my needs as a Pro book. On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Thomas Guettler h...@tbz-pariv.de wrote: kj schrieb: I have read a couple of learn Python-type books, and now I'm looking for some more advanced books on Python, ... Basically I'm looking

Advanced Python books?

2009-05-18 Thread kj
I have read a couple of learn Python-type books, and now I'm looking for some more advanced books on Python, something analogous to Effective Java or High-Order Perl. I've only been able to find Advanced Python 3 Programming Techniques, which, as far as I can tell, is only available as a Kindle

Re: Advanced Python books?

2009-05-18 Thread UrsusMaximus
You might try Expert Python Programming by Tarek Ziadé. It is a relatively recent book aimed at experts. There are several reviews of the book linked to from a href=http://www.awaretek.com/ book.htmlthis page/a. Ron On May 18, 1:04 pm, kj so...@987jk.com.invalid wrote: I have read a couple of

Re: Advanced Python books?

2009-05-18 Thread python
Take a look at Text Processing In Python by David Mertz. This book doesn't cover all your requirements, but its a well-written book that is more comprehensive than its title might indicate. There's also a free version of this book online. Malcolm --

Re: Great Python books for the beginner

2008-01-17 Thread Jorgen Grahn
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 01:03:42 -0600, Landon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm a freshman in college and I'm going to be taking an intro to programming course next semester which mainly uses Python, so I thought it might be a good time to pick up Python beyond the scope of the class as well. The

Re: Great Python books for the beginner

2008-01-17 Thread Jorgen Grahn
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:12:19 -0800 (PST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12 jan, 21:04, Landon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing I wonder about is the examples these books use to teach the concepts. I found myself really attached to KR because the end of section projects were

Re: Great Python books for the beginner

2008-01-13 Thread Graeme Glass
On Jan 12, 9:03 am, Landon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm a freshman in college and I'm going to be taking an intro to programming course next semester which mainly uses Python, so I thought it might be a good time to pick up Python beyond the scope of the class as well. The text book for

Re: Great Python books for the beginner

2008-01-13 Thread MooJoo
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], GeneralCody [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2008-01-12 08:03:42 +0100, Landon [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi, I'm a freshman in college and I'm going to be taking an intro to programming course next semester which mainly uses Python, so I thought it might be a good

Re: Great Python books for the beginner

2008-01-12 Thread Jim
Look at http://www.python.org/doc/ . The tutorial is quite good. Jim -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Great Python books for the beginner

2008-01-12 Thread Ben Finney
Landon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was wondering if anyone had any opinions on what other titles I could look into since this one seems from a glance at reviews to be teaching mainly through game programming (a topic I'm not too interested in) or if this one is a quality book by itself. The

Re: Great Python books for the beginner

2008-01-12 Thread sween119
On Jan 12, 2:03 am, Landon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm a freshman in college and I'm going to be taking an intro to programming course next semester which mainly uses Python, so I thought it might be a good time to pick up Python beyond the scope of the class as well. The text book for

Re: Great Python books for the beginner

2008-01-12 Thread Mike
On Jan 12, 7:47 am, Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Landon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was wondering if anyone had any opinions on what other titles I could look into since this one seems from a glance at reviews to be teaching mainly through game programming (a topic I'm not too

Re: Great Python books for the beginner

2008-01-12 Thread babycode
On Jan 12, 2:03 am, Landon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if anyone had any opinions on what other titles I could look into since this one seems from a glance at reviews to be teaching mainly through game programming (a topic I'm not too interested in) or if this one is a quality

Re: Great Python books for the beginner

2008-01-12 Thread GeneralCody
On 2008-01-12 08:03:42 +0100, Landon [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hi, I'm a freshman in college and I'm going to be taking an intro to programming course next semester which mainly uses Python, so I thought it might be a good time to pick up Python beyond the scope of the class as well. The text

Re: Great Python books for the beginner

2008-01-12 Thread Landon
One thing I wonder about is the examples these books use to teach the concepts. I found myself really attached to KR because the end of section projects were utilities that I would find be able to find useful in day to day work such as a version of wc and a program that would take collapse all

Re: Great Python books for the beginner

2008-01-12 Thread André
On Jan 12, 4:04 pm, Landon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing I wonder about is the examples these books use to teach the concepts. I found myself really attached to KR because the end of section projects were utilities that I would find be able to find useful in day to day work such as a

Re: Great Python books for the beginner

2008-01-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 12 jan, 21:04, Landon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing I wonder about is the examples these books use to teach the concepts. I found myself really attached to KR because the end of section projects were utilities that I would find be able to find useful in day to day work such as a

Re: Great Python books for the beginner

2008-01-12 Thread Dick Moores
At 11:03 PM 1/11/2008, Landon wrote: Hi, I'm a freshman in college and I'm going to be taking an intro to programming course next semester which mainly uses Python, so I thought it might be a good time to pick up Python beyond the scope of the class as well. The text book for this class is Python

Great Python books for the beginner

2008-01-11 Thread Landon
Hi, I'm a freshman in college and I'm going to be taking an intro to programming course next semester which mainly uses Python, so I thought it might be a good time to pick up Python beyond the scope of the class as well. The text book for this class is Python for the Absolute Beginner or

Re: Really badly structured Python Books.

2007-04-16 Thread Klaas
On Apr 14, 11:37 am, Andre P.S Duarte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I started reading the beginning Python book. It is intended for people who are starting out in the Python world. But it is really complicated, because he tries to explain, then after a bad explanation he puts out a bad example. I

Re: Really badly structured Python Books.

2007-04-15 Thread readability
On Apr 14, 2:37 pm, Andre P.S Duarte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I started reading the beginning Python book. It is intended for people who are starting out in the Python world. But it is really complicated, because he tries to explain, then after a bad explanation he puts out a bad example. I

Really badly structured Python Books.

2007-04-14 Thread Andre P.S Duarte
I started reading the beginning Python book. It is intended for people who are starting out in the Python world. But it is really complicated, because he tries to explain, then after a bad explanation he puts out a bad example. I really recommend NOT reading the book. For it will make you want not

Re: Really badly structured Python Books.

2007-04-14 Thread 7stud
really recommend NOT reading the book. For it will make you want not to continue in Python. This is just me letting the air out of my lungs. No need to reply this is just a recommendation. Txs for the opportunity . There are several beginning python books. You might want to be a little more

Re: Really badly structured Python Books.

2007-04-14 Thread James Stroud
example. I really recommend NOT reading the book. For it will make you want not to continue in Python. This is just me letting the air out of my lungs. No need to reply this is just a recommendation. Txs for the opportunity . There are several beginning python books. You might want

Re: Python books?

2007-03-15 Thread Paul Hummer
Alex Martelli wrote: BartlebyScrivener [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 14, 3:50 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) wrote: Some people prefer shorter books -- Python for Dummies (for new programmers) and Python in a Nutshell (for experienced programmers) both try to give a thorough

Re: Python books?

2007-03-15 Thread André
On Mar 15, 2:38 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Martelli) wrote: BartlebyScrivener [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 14, 3:50 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) wrote: Some people prefer shorter books -- Python for Dummies (for new programmers) and Python in a Nutshell (for experienced programmers)

Re: Python books?

2007-03-14 Thread Aahz
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tommy Nordgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've found one interesting text book on Python: Mark Lutz - Programming Python, 3rd Edition. How do you rate it? One of the reasons I find it interesting is because of it's hefty page count - over 1500 pages.

Re: Python books?

2007-03-14 Thread BartlebyScrivener
On Mar 14, 3:50 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) wrote: Some people prefer shorter books -- Python for Dummies (for new programmers) and Python in a Nutshell (for experienced programmers) both try to give a thorough survey of Python while keeping the book easy to carry. And other people like

Re: Python books?

2007-03-14 Thread Jim Hill
wesley chun wrote: my book, Core Python Programming, is revised to 2.5, but focuses on teaching you the core part of the language, features, objects, memory management, development, good practices, some advanced topic coverage, and presents lots of exercises. however, it is not an exhaustive

Re: Python books?

2007-03-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Python Cookbook is still relevant, and is excellent. I have used it to improve the quality of my solutions to several complex problems. It helps to explain many of the more advanced tricks to Python development. -T -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python books?

2007-03-14 Thread Alex Martelli
BartlebyScrivener [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 14, 3:50 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aahz) wrote: Some people prefer shorter books -- Python for Dummies (for new programmers) and Python in a Nutshell (for experienced programmers) both try to give a thorough survey of Python while keeping

Re: Python books?

2007-03-11 Thread Tommy Nordgren
On 9 mar 2007, at 04.06, Tommy Nordgren wrote: Could some kind soul please recommend a few text books on Python 2.5 and it's class library? I've found one interesting text book on Python: Mark Lutz - Programming Python, 3rd Edition. How do you rate it? One of the reasons I

Re: Python books?

2007-03-09 Thread wesley chun
On Mar 8, 7:06 pm, Tommy Nordgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could some kind soul please recommend a few textbooks on Python 2.5 and it's class library? it's not necessary to have a 2.5 book that can introduce you to the modules of the Python Standard Library (not all modules are [or have]

Re: Python books?

2007-03-09 Thread Ralf Schönian
Have a look at: Core python programming from Wesley J. Chun printed by Prentice Hall. Ralf Schoenian -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Python in a Nutshell v2.5 shortcomings (was: Python books?)

2007-03-09 Thread Bjoern Schliessmann
Alex Martelli wrote: I do know that the 2nd edition of Python in a Nutshell tries to do so, but falls quite a bit short on a number of important new additions to the library Which, if I may ask? Regards, Björn -- BOFH excuse #221: The mainframe needs to rest. It's getting old, you

Python books?

2007-03-08 Thread Tommy Nordgren
Could some kind soul please recommend a few text books on Python 2.5 and it's class library? Kine dies, Kinfolk dies, and thus at last yourself This I know that never dies, how a dead mans deeds are deemed. -- Elder edda Tommy Nordgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] --

Re: Python books?

2007-03-08 Thread Alex Martelli
Tommy Nordgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could some kind soul please recommend a few text books on Python 2.5 and it's class library? I believe recent books on Python (such as Python for Dummies and the second edition of Core Python Programming) do cover 2.5; I do know that the 2nd edition of

Re: Python books?

2007-03-08 Thread rishi pathak
I would suggest you the python docs available on python.org.They are the best and latest On 3/9/07, Tommy Nordgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could some kind soul please recommend a few text books on Python 2.5 and it's class library? Kine dies, Kinfolk dies, and thus at last yourself This

Best Python Books and Sites

2006-09-08 Thread VV
of our service we let people review past problems and also provide resources for their own research. Can anyone tell me (in their opinion)? What are the best three sites for python information? What are the best three python books they own? I would like to compile a list and include it on my site

Re: Best Python Books and Sites

2006-09-08 Thread Scott David Daniels
python books they own? Sounds great! Send me $1.50 and I'll send you my six answers. --Scott David Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

New editions of several Python books.

2006-02-09 Thread Magnus Lycka
a lot of people. One interesting thing I noticed when I visited Amazon.com today, was that several publishers are busy making new editions of their Python books. These classics are in the pipeline: Python Essential Reference (3rd Edition) by David M. Beazley (Paperback - February 24, 2006) I

Re: New editions of several Python books.

2006-02-09 Thread Aahz
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Magnus Lycka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is also a Python for Dummies on its way at last. (I'm not sure Python *is* for dummies though. Despite being so easy to learn and use, it mainly seems to attract smart and experienced people, why else would Python

Re: New editions of several Python books.

2006-02-09 Thread Magnus Lycka
Aahz wrote: If you can have _Borland C++ for Dummies_, _Python for Dummies_ makes a lot more sense. :-/ Well, I guess Borland C++ for Dummies has a genuine purpose, but it could be a very short book. One page where is says: Don't! ;^) I guess it's a seal of mainstream approval to get a

Re: New editions of several Python books.

2006-02-09 Thread James Stroud
Magnus Lycka wrote: Programming Python, 3rd edition by Mark Lutz (Paperback - July 2006) Never a favourite of mine really, but a popular book... This one is like broccoli. Its good for you but it doesn't have much flavor. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: New editions of several Python books.

2006-02-09 Thread David Reed
On Feb 9, 2006, at 3:59 PM, James Stroud wrote: Magnus Lycka wrote: Programming Python, 3rd edition by Mark Lutz (Paperback - July 2006) Never a favourite of mine really, but a popular book... This one is like broccoli. Its good for you but it doesn't have much flavor. --

Question: New editions of Python books?

2005-10-27 Thread Robert Boyd
Hi, Are any new editions in the works for either Python Essential Reference or Python in a Nutshell? I'm holding off buying one or the other existing editions, although my library overdue fines for them would have paid for them by now! Thanks, Rob --