Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-30 Thread William
For wxFormbuilder, does it also support AUI (dockable windows,etc.)? Thanks, William --- On Wed, 8/26/09, Robert Kern wrote: From: Robert Kern Subject: Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps? To: python-list@python.org Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 7:40 PM On 2009-08-26 18:08 PM

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-29 Thread erikj
On Aug 27, 2:31 pm, Neuruss wrote: > On 26 ago, 05:29, erikj wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > You could have a look at Camelot, to see if it fits > > your needs :http://www.conceptive.be/projects/camelot/ > > > it was developed with cross platform business apps in > > mind.  when developing Camelot, we

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-28 Thread Vivian Wang
On Aug 24, 8:08 pm, Gilles Ganault wrote: > Hello > >         I was wondering if some people in this ng use Python and some GUI > toolkit (PyWin32, wxWidgets, QT, etc.) to build professional > applications, and if yes, what it's like, the pros and cons, etc. > > I'm especially concerned about the

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-27 Thread Peter Decker
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 4:47 PM, David C Ullrich wrote: > On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 22:22:20 -0700, sturlamolden wrote: > >> On 25 Aug, 05:56, Peter Decker wrote: >> >>> I use the Dabo Class Designer to visually design my forms. So what's >>> you're point? :) >> >> Nothing, except lobbying for wxFormBu

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-27 Thread Neuruss
On 26 ago, 05:29, erikj wrote: > Hi, > > You could have a look at Camelot, to see if it fits > your needs :http://www.conceptive.be/projects/camelot/ > > it was developed with cross platform business apps in > mind.  when developing Camelot, we tried to build it using > wxWidgets first (because of

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-27 Thread Hendrik van Rooyen
On Wednesday 26 August 2009 22:47:23 David C Ullrich wrote: > That's great. But do you know of anything I can use as a > visual form design tool in wxPython? Boa Constructor - Hendrik -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-26 Thread Stef Mientki
Gilles Ganault wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:24:39 +0200, Wolfgang Keller wrote: The area of _desktop_ database application development indeed looks like a vast and very hostile desert in the Python landscape. The only framework that seems to be worth trying is Dabo. Unfortunately there's

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-26 Thread Robert Kern
On 2009-08-26 18:08 PM, sturlamolden wrote: On 26 Aug, 22:47, David C Ullrich wrote: Nothing, except lobbying for wxFormBuilder for anyone who still doesn't know of it. :) That's great. But do you know of anything I can use as a visual form design tool in wxPython? Right... I don't know if

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-26 Thread Che M
On Aug 26, 4:47 pm, David C Ullrich wrote: > On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 22:22:20 -0700, sturlamolden wrote: > > On 25 Aug, 05:56, Peter Decker wrote: > > >> I use the Dabo Class Designer to visually design my forms. So what's > >> you're point?  :) > > > Nothing, except lobbying for wxFormBuilder for an

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-26 Thread Che M
> Combined with the comment above about issues with printing, it looks > like Python for GUI apps isn't a very good idea :-/ I don't have that feeling at all. I don't have that much of a basis of comparison, but my experience with wxPython for making GUI apps has been pretty good. Does anyone kn

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-26 Thread sturlamolden
On 26 Aug, 22:47, David C Ullrich wrote: > > Nothing, except lobbying for wxFormBuilder for anyone who still doesn't > > know of it. :) > > That's great. But do you know of anything I can use as a > visual form design tool in wxPython? Right... I don't know if you are trying to be funny, but as

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-26 Thread Stef Mientki
David C Ullrich wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 22:22:20 -0700, sturlamolden wrote: On 25 Aug, 05:56, Peter Decker wrote: I use the Dabo Class Designer to visually design my forms. So what's you're point? :) Nothing, except lobbying for wxFormBuilder for anyone who still doesn't

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-26 Thread David C Ullrich
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 22:22:20 -0700, sturlamolden wrote: > On 25 Aug, 05:56, Peter Decker wrote: > >> I use the Dabo Class Designer to visually design my forms. So what's >> you're point?  :) > > Nothing, except lobbying for wxFormBuilder for anyone who still doesn't > know of it. :) That's gre

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-26 Thread erikj
Hi, You could have a look at Camelot, to see if it fits your needs : http://www.conceptive.be/projects/camelot/ it was developed with cross platform business apps in mind. when developing Camelot, we tried to build it using wxWidgets first (because of the licensing at that time), but it turned o

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-26 Thread Simon Brunning
2009/8/26 geekworking : > If you are planning a database driven app, you should first settle on > a DB server. Any real enterprise DB system will put all of the > business logic in the database server. The choice of a front end > should be secondary. The trend for some years now has been to get be

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-25 Thread geekworking
If you are planning a database driven app, you should first settle on a DB server. Any real enterprise DB system will put all of the business logic in the database server. The choice of a front end should be secondary. Wikipedia's list of Python apps: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Python_s

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-25 Thread Peter Decker
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Wolfgang Keller wrote: > The only framework that seems to be worth trying is Dabo. Unfortunately > there's little documentation, and that's mostly outdated. To be honest, that was my biggest concern when I tried Dabo. However, after as small a learning curve as o

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-25 Thread sturlamolden
On 25 Aug, 13:24, Wolfgang Keller wrote: > The area of _desktop_ database application development indeed looks like a > vast and very hostile desert in the Python landscape. Yes, you don't have drag-and-drop database tools like MS Access or FoxPro. You actually have to use a database API (such

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-25 Thread sturlamolden
On 25 Aug, 20:30, Gilles Ganault wrote: > Combined with the comment above about issues with printing, it looks > like Python for GUI apps isn't a very good idea :-/ With pywin32, printing is the same as for any other Windows app (you get MFC for Python). -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listi

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-25 Thread David Boddie
On Tuesday 25 August 2009 13:24, Wolfgang Keller wrote: > The area of _desktop_ database application development indeed looks like a > vast and very hostile desert in the Python landscape. > > The only framework that seems to be worth trying is Dabo. Unfortunately > there's little documentation,

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-25 Thread Gilles Ganault
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:24:39 +0200, Wolfgang Keller wrote: >The area of _desktop_ database application development indeed looks like a >vast and very hostile desert in the Python landscape. > >The only framework that seems to be worth trying is Dabo. Unfortunately >there's little documentation,

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-25 Thread Wolfgang Keller
> I need controls for business apps like access to databases, good data > grid, printing reports (with or without barcodes), etc. The area of _desktop_ database application development indeed looks like a vast and very hostile desert in the Python landscape. The only framework that seems to be w

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-24 Thread sturlamolden
On 25 Aug, 05:56, Peter Decker wrote: > I use the Dabo Class Designer to visually design my forms. So what's > you're point?  :) Nothing, except lobbying for wxFormBuilder for anyone who still doesn't know of it. :) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-24 Thread Peter Decker
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:26 PM, sturlamolden wrote: > On 25 Aug, 03:51, Peter Decker wrote: > >> I've used in fairly regularly for about 2 years now. I haven't had to >> write that ugly wxPython code for so long that every time I see >> examples on their mail list I wanna barf. > > I prefer wxFo

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-24 Thread Che M
> I'm especially concerned about the lack of controls, the lack of > updates (lots of controls in wxWidgets are 1.0 deadware), I use wxPython. No lack of controls there, and most are up to date. Which "lots" in wxWidgets are you thinking of? > I need controls for business apps like access to d

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-24 Thread Steve
You can also use Windows Forms with IronPython http://www.ironpython.info/index.php/Contents#Windows_Forms -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-24 Thread sturlamolden
On 25 Aug, 03:51, Peter Decker wrote: > I've used in fairly regularly for about 2 years now. I haven't had to > write that ugly wxPython code for so long that every time I see > examples on their mail list I wanna barf. I prefer wxFormBuilder. GUIs should be designed visually whenever possible.

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-24 Thread Peter Decker
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Stephen Hansen wrote: > P.S. I have no idea why I'm pumping Dabo so much in this though I've never > used it! I've used in fairly regularly for about 2 years now. I haven't had to write that ugly wxPython code for so long that every time I see examples on their m

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-24 Thread rurpy
On 08/24/2009 06:08 AM, Gilles Ganault wrote: > I was wondering if some people in this ng use Python and some GUI > toolkit (PyWin32, wxWidgets, QT, etc.) to build professional > applications, and if yes, what it's like, the pros and cons, etc. > > I'm especially concerned about the lack of c

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-24 Thread Stephen Hansen
> >I was wondering if some people in this ng use Python and some GUI > toolkit (PyWin32, wxWidgets, QT, etc.) to build professional > applications, and if yes, what it's like, the pros and cons, etc. My company does. A few years ago we decided to re-write our entire aging product line in

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-24 Thread sturlamolden
On 24 Aug, 14:08, Gilles Ganault wrote: > and problems > linked to how to update users' PC remotely when I build a new version > using eg. Py2exe. Remote update is a problem regardless of language. It typically involves the following steps: 1. Download the update from a server using a backgroun

Re: Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-24 Thread sturlamolden
On 24 Aug, 14:08, Gilles Ganault wrote: > I'm especially concerned about the lack of controls, the lack of > updates (lots of controls in wxWidgets are 1.0 deadware), and problems > linked to how to update users' PC remotely when I build a new version > using eg. Py2exe. There is pywin32 if you

Python for professsional Windows GUI apps?

2009-08-24 Thread Gilles Ganault
Hello I was wondering if some people in this ng use Python and some GUI toolkit (PyWin32, wxWidgets, QT, etc.) to build professional applications, and if yes, what it's like, the pros and cons, etc. I'm especially concerned about the lack of controls, the lack of updates (lots of controls