Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-17 Thread Nick Vargish
"EP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > (what is the mascot for C++?) I can't seem to find a goatse link... (But I didn't try very hard.) Nick -- # sigmask || 0.2 || 20030107 || public domain || feed this to a python print reduce(lambda x,y:x+chr(ord(y)-1),' Ojdl!Wbshjti!=obwAcboefstobudi/

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-16 Thread kdahlhaus
I just noticed the link - are you at Case in Cleveland? I'm in Brooklyn (OH). -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-16 Thread kdahlhaus
> http://exogen.cwru.edu/python2.png Wow, that's sharp! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-16 Thread Carlos Ribeiro
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 11:51:18 -0500, Peter Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > EP wrote: > >>It's a great marketing idea. There was a thread recently on Python-dev > >>that started with a message from Guido, where he talks about a > >>seemingly persistent perception that exists in the specialized pr

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-16 Thread Luis M. Gonzalez
Stephan, Since you're one of the directors of the Python Software Foundation, could you let them know about this discussion in order to get their approval? If they agree, maybe you can tell us where and how to held the contest. Just one thought: I think that it would be good to not determine a de

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-16 Thread Stephen Kellett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, EP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Well, the snake mascot as drawn is, of course, very flexible, appears to be friendly, and is, well, just how fast is a big snake, esp. a python? I don't know about Pythons but there is a black snake in Africa (a black mamba?) that wh

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-16 Thread sdeibel
Please note that to make something official, it has to be passed through the Python Software Foundation, which holds the intellectual property for Python and is responsible for trademarks associated with the language. If you're serious about doing this, you may want to email "psf at python dot org

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-16 Thread Peter Hansen
EP wrote: It's a great marketing idea. There was a thread recently on Python-dev that started with a message from Guido, where he talks about a seemingly persistent perception that exists in the specialized press regarding Python as a flexible, nice, but generally slow (or slower than the alternati

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-16 Thread EP
> It's a great marketing idea. There was a thread recently on Python-dev > that started with a message from Guido, where he talks about a > seemingly persistent perception that exists in the specialized press > regarding Python as a flexible, nice, but generally slow (or slower > than the alterna

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-16 Thread Luis M. Gonzalez
> > But before pushing forward any particular design, maybe it will make > > sense to make some sort of official logo contest on Python's main > > website and post it on /. ? > I was waiting for someone to propose that :-) I'm new to this list and Python in general, but I think that this sort of t

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-16 Thread Carlos Ribeiro
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 07:42:38 GMT, Dimitri Tcaciuc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hm, interesting. So I'm hearing lots of different opinions here, but it > seems like there's not too many radical thoughts about not using snake > at all and it can be pretty much summed up to 2 things > 1) use a snake >

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-15 Thread Dimitri Tcaciuc
Hm, interesting. So I'm hearing lots of different opinions here, but it seems like there's not too many radical thoughts about not using snake at all and it can be pretty much summed up to 2 things 1) use a snake 2) combine snake with -some- monty python's symbolic I personally totally like the

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-15 Thread Terry Hancock
In reply to the OP, I think the snake mascot drawing is cute and pretty compelling. On Sunday 12 December 2004 05:49 pm, Luis M. Gonzalez wrote: > 1) I think that Python's logo should reflect its power. > If we use a mascot as its image, we would be giving the wrong idea: > that Python is a "toy"

RE: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-14 Thread EP
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Here are my suggestions: ... > 4. A "larch" > ... > Anybody know what a larch looks like? > Right! Well, some rather good pictures of the Larch on this website (my, stunning, the larch looks, eh?!) http://www.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/PEOPLE/bolder/monty

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-14 Thread Keith Dart
Dimitri Tcaciuc wrote: Yup, I was aware of the fact of Monty Python roots of the language name. However, you will probably agree that a snake is more associative. Plus, if to use some characteristic MP feature like a giant foot, I'm not positive that it won't trigger any copyright issues. I pref

RE: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-14 Thread Doran_Dermot
;Prevention of Cruelty to Shoeboxes Society"). P.S. Anybody know what a larch looks like? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Robert Sent: 14 December 2004 10:37 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Python mascot prop

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-14 Thread Lenard Lindstrom
Steven Bethard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Lenard Lindstrom wrote: > > Steven Bethard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > >>Brian Beck wrote: > >> > >>>http://exogen.cwru.edu/python2.png > >> > >>Oooh, I like this one. Very cool! > >> > > Its visually stunning. But under Windows gears show up in

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-13 Thread Jive
P.s. I never could stand Beanie and Cecil. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-13 Thread Jive
I've yet to see a Python logo that I thought was really good. The cartoon green snake icon is okay, I guess, if a bit cutesy for my taste. Random thoughts: It is unreasonable to use the name "Python" and not expect people to associate it with a snake. I say that although I'm a big Python (Monte

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-13 Thread Adam DePrince
On Mon, 2004-12-13 at 14:50, James Stroud wrote: > As far as python.png below is concerned, I am reminded of the structure of > the > HIV virus: http://www.avert.org/pictures/hivstructure.htm > > Pleasing to virologists and drug companies, but as a single, computer-type > guy, it makes my skin

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-13 Thread Graham Fawcett
Luis M. Gonzalez wrote: > Hey Dimitri, > > I completely agree with you in that Python needs once for all a cool > logo. > I like your design very much, but I have a few thoughts about it: > > 1) I think that Python's logo should reflect its power. > If we use a mascot as its image, we would be givi

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-13 Thread Fredrik Lundh
> Anybody know what a larch looks like? from quite far away? random google link: http://www.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/PEOPLE/bolder/montypython/larch1.html -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-13 Thread Steven Bethard
Lenard Lindstrom wrote: Steven Bethard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brian Beck wrote: http://exogen.cwru.edu/python2.png Oooh, I like this one. Very cool! Its visually stunning. But under Windows gears show up in the DLL and batch file icons. Is that a problem? The fact that they show up in DLLs a

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-13 Thread Andrew Robert
What about a dead camel? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-13 Thread Lenard Lindstrom
Jeremy Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Luis M. Gonzalez wrote: > > >Hey Dimitri, > > [snip] > >> >2) We should also bear in mind Guido's oppinion about using a snake for > >identifying Python. > > > I've been googling for this today. So, what exactly is Guido's > opinion on snake logos? > T

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-13 Thread Lenard Lindstrom
Steven Bethard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Brian Beck wrote: > > http://exogen.cwru.edu/python2.png > > Oooh, I like this one. Very cool! > Its visually stunning. But under Windows gears show up in the DLL and batch file icons. Lenard Lindstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- http://mail.python.org/

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-13 Thread James Stroud
As far as python.png below is concerned, I am reminded of the structure of the HIV virus: http://www.avert.org/pictures/hivstructure.htm Pleasing to virologists and drug companies, but as a single, computer-type guy, it makes my skin crawl in more ways than one. On Sunday 12 December 2004 07:4

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-13 Thread infidel
Not that my opinion is worth anything in these matters, but I like the upper-left example at http://exogen.cwru.edu/python.png the best (out of the samples I've seen thus far). I don't like the "gear" shape, and I think adding a coil or circle around the "head" detracts somewhat from the look. I

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-13 Thread wk8l
I thought there was probably already an official mascot. There's a little green snake with his tongue hanging out on the left of the URL when you visit www.python.org. I see it in my Safari browser on Mac OS X and in Firefox, but not in Internet Exploder. I thought that I had seen a large pictur

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-13 Thread Alex Stapleton
The problem with parrots is that Perl 6's engine is called Parrot. Although I suppose the image of a dead Parrot/snake eating a parrot etc could be a "good" one in some peoples minds. But i'm not sure Perl people are really the sort that you wan't to make enemies of, they are deadly with custard

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-13 Thread Jeremy Jones
Luis M. Gonzalez wrote: Hey Dimitri, I completely agree with you in that Python needs once for all a cool logo. I like your design very much, but I have a few thoughts about it: 1) I think that Python's logo should reflect its power. Vorpal Bunny. Now, *that's* power. If we use a mascot as its

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-13 Thread Adil Hasan
Would a parrot on it's back be better? adil On Mon, 13 Dec 2004, Alex Stapleton wrote: > Well the most well known Flying Circus snake related sketch is probably > the one eyed trouser snake one, which is er-, probably less than a good > idea for a logo. The Snake with some sort of Monty Pytho

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-13 Thread Alex Stapleton
Well the most well known Flying Circus snake related sketch is probably the one eyed trouser snake one, which is er-, probably less than a good idea for a logo. The Snake with some sort of Monty Python themeing is probably the best idea, but drawing a snake + large foot/16 ton weight/holy grail

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-13 Thread Eric Pederson
> Since the word 'Python' would bring -some- sort of snake associations, > I > thought of combining snake and Monty Python symbolic, like making a > snake wind around a giant foot, or adding long mustache and an english > hat to a snake or something in that manner, or even put a snake into a

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-13 Thread Dimitri Tcaciuc
Brian Beck wrote: Dimitri Tcaciuc wrote: While I'm not absolutely positive, it looks like Python still doesn't have any official mascot or logo. Hence, here's something I came up with yesterday. Its by no means a final version, but rather just a draft to show an idea. Here's a link to png file.

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-12 Thread Steven Bethard
Brian Beck wrote: http://exogen.cwru.edu/python2.png Oooh, I like this one. Very cool! Steve -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-12 Thread Brian Beck
Dimitri Tcaciuc wrote: While I'm not absolutely positive, it looks like Python still doesn't have any official mascot or logo. Hence, here's something I came up with yesterday. Its by no means a final version, but rather just a draft to show an idea. Here's a link to png file. http://www.sfu.ca

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-12 Thread Dimitri Tcaciuc
Luis M. Gonzalez wrote: Hey Dimitri, I completely agree with you in that Python needs once for all a cool logo. I like your design very much, but I have a few thoughts about it: 1) I think that Python's logo should reflect its power. If we use a mascot as its image, we would be giving the wrong ide

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-12 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
Nice drawing! -- Regards, Diez B. Roggisch -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-12 Thread Luis M. Gonzalez
Hey Dimitri, I completely agree with you in that Python needs once for all a cool logo. I like your design very much, but I have a few thoughts about it: 1) I think that Python's logo should reflect its power. If we use a mascot as its image, we would be giving the wrong idea: that Python is a "t

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-12 Thread Bud Rogers
richard wrote: > Having said that, don't forget that Python's name has *nothing to do > with snakes*. Please consider sticking to the original roots of the > language's name: Monty Python's Flying Circus. IIRC, Guido has said a > number of times that he's not fond of using a snake for logos. Some

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-12 Thread Dimitri Tcaciuc
richard wrote: Dimitri Tcaciuc wrote: While I'm not absolutely positive, it looks like Python still doesn't have any official mascot or logo. As already mentioned, there is a snake that gets used in a number of icons around the place - the windows installer, for example. Hence, here's something I

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-12 Thread Michael Sparks
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004, Dimitri Tcaciuc wrote: > Hey everybody, > > While I'm not absolutely positive, it looks like Python still doesn't > have any official mascot or logo. Hmm... I thought it did - indeed it's in every character set (?): @ For those who can't see the detail, it's an eel curled

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-12 Thread richard
Dimitri Tcaciuc wrote: > While I'm not absolutely positive, it looks like Python still doesn't > have any official mascot or logo. As already mentioned, there is a snake that gets used in a number of icons around the place - the windows installer, for example. > Hence, here's something I came up

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-12 Thread Steven Bethard
Jeremy Bowers wrote: On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 20:54:38 +, Dimitri Tcaciuc wrote: I haven't came up with the name for that guy yet, so I'm leaving that for public suggestions :). It is time Python gets an official face in the Net! *cough* Anyway, I would like to hear your thoughts and suggestions.

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-12 Thread Dimitri Tcaciuc
Jeremy Bowers wrote: On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 20:54:38 +, Dimitri Tcaciuc wrote: I haven't came up with the name for that guy yet, so I'm leaving that for public suggestions :). It is time Python gets an official face in the Net! *cough* Anyway, I would like to hear your thoughts and suggestions.

Re: Python mascot proposal

2004-12-12 Thread Jeremy Bowers
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 20:54:38 +, Dimitri Tcaciuc wrote: > I haven't came up with the name for that guy yet, so I'm leaving that > for public suggestions :). It is time Python gets an official face in > the Net! *cough* Anyway, I would like to hear your thoughts and suggestions. I mean no offe