Chris said :
I think map is fine if you can use a named function, but if you can't
come up with a descriptive name for what you're doing, a comprehension
is probably better (as it'll have the code right there). Mapping _
across everything tells you nothing about what it's actually doing
OK, this
Sorry, typo, meant to say
To be clear, I was never really intending to keep the
_ = lambda c : lambda x : c(*x)
map(_(P), zip([1,2,3], [6, 5, 4]))
code snippets in my final work product. The purpose of this thread was too fish
around for ideas on what to replace it with...
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On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Peter Cacioppi
peter.cacio...@gmail.com wrote:
Chris said :
I think map is fine if you can use a named function, but if you can't
come up with a descriptive name for what you're doing, a comprehension
is probably better (as it'll have the code right there).
Chris said :
Absolutely! The unfortunate truth, though, is that idioms that
resonate with you _and nobody else_ are just as big a problem as bugs,
because they're unmaintainable. So hopefully what you're doing will
make sense to other people too!
There is some truth in what you say ... but in
Peter Otten said:
_ = lambda c: lambda x: c(*x)
list(map(_(P), zip([1,2,3], [6, 5, 4])))
[Point(x=1, y=6), Point(x=2, y=5), Point(x=3, y=4)]
? While the obvious approach would be
[P(*args) for args in zip([1,2,3], [6, 5, 4])]
[Point(x=1, y=6), Point(x=2, y=5), Point(x=3, y=4)]
I
On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Peter Cacioppi peter.cacio...@gmail.com wrote:
I sometimes use map, sometimes comprehensions. I suspect other people do the
same, that's why the language supports map and comprehensions.
I think map is fine if you can use a named function, but if you can't
come
Peter Cacioppi peter.cacio...@gmail.com writes:
[P(*args) for args in zip([1,2,3], [6, 5, 4])]
[P(x,y) for x,y in zip(...)]
Are you saying it's always preferable to avoid map?
Not always. Depends on context, partly subjective.
I sometimes use map, sometimes comprehensions. I suspect other
Peter Cacioppi wrote:
Peter Otten said:
_ = lambda c: lambda x: c(*x)
list(map(_(P), zip([1,2,3], [6, 5, 4])))
[Point(x=1, y=6), Point(x=2, y=5), Point(x=3, y=4)]
? While the obvious approach would be
[P(*args) for args in zip([1,2,3], [6, 5, 4])]
[Point(x=1, y=6), Point(x=2,
Peter Otten, 09.11.2013 12:49:
There is no obvious meaning attached to _ -- so don't use it.
Not quite true. Depending on the context, the obvious meanings of _ in
Python are either
1) ignore me, e.g. in
_, b = some_tuple
or
2) this is a non-public thing, as in
class Xyz:
On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 11:41 PM, Stefan Behnel stefan...@behnel.de wrote:
2) this is a non-public thing, as in
class Xyz:
_private = 1
Your three meanings all have the etymology of ignore me, but I would
distinguish this one from the others. An underscore used on its own
has
Stefan Behnel wrote:
Peter Otten, 09.11.2013 12:49:
There is no obvious meaning attached to _ -- so don't use it.
Not quite true. Depending on the context, the obvious meanings of _ in
Python are either
1) ignore me, e.g. in
_, b = some_tuple
or
2) this is a non-public
my fav so far is this
_ = lambda c : lambda x : c(*x)
c can be any calleable and x any iterable, but I tend to use it with a class,
and then map _(class) over the result of a zip.
It must be in the library somewhere, but I haven't found it. I'm never sure
what to call it, so I just reroll
On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Peter Cacioppi peter.cacio...@gmail.com wrote:
my fav so far is this
_ = lambda c : lambda x : c(*x)
c can be any calleable and x any iterable, but I tend to use it with a class,
and then map _(class) over the result of a zip.
It must be in the library
Chris said:
So... for any given class, it returns a tweaked version that unpacks
an iterable of its arguments instead of taking separate args.
It works with any calleable (not just any class), but otherwise your summary is
spot on.
Interesting, perhaps, but not something that'll be needed in
Peter Cacioppi wrote:
my fav so far is this
_ = lambda c : lambda x : c(*x)
c can be any calleable and x any iterable, but I tend to use it with a
class, and then map _(class) over the result of a zip.
It must be in the library somewhere, but I haven't found it. I'm never
sure what
stdin -- etc, etc; I tried
making things fair by placing the same limitations on each
implementation (also forcing Python to use stdin, etc).
I'm sure my Javascript code can be made much better, but here is what I
have so far, as a.js:
var vowels_re = /[aeiou]/gi;
var conson_re
Alex Martelli wrote:
John Nagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 27, 9:07 am, John Nagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The CPython implementation is unreasonably slow compared
to good implementations of other dynamic languages such
as LISP and JavaScript.
Why do you
John Nagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
The CPython implementation is unreasonably slow compared
to good implementations of other dynamic languages such
as LISP and JavaScript.
...
Tamarin is a just-in-time compiler for Javascript.
...and is not yet released, as far as I can tell;
On May 6, 6:09 pm, John Nagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alex Martelli wrote:
John Nagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 27, 9:07 am, John Nagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The CPython implementation is unreasonably slow compared
to good implementations of other
Alex Martelli:
Can you run a generic benchmark inside the current implementation of
Flash to check out its Javascript performance? I can't, so, ...
I can't either (without going to a lot of effort) so here is a page
comparing SpiderMonkey and Tamarin from someone with an adobe.com
Isaac Gouy wrote:
On May 6, 6:09 pm, John Nagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alex Martelli wrote:
John Nagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 27, 9:07 am, John Nagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The CPython implementation is unreasonably slow compared
to good implementations
Neil Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alex Martelli:
Can you run a generic benchmark inside the current implementation of
Flash to check out its Javascript performance? I can't, so, ...
I can't either (without going to a lot of effort) so here is a page
comparing SpiderMonkey and
On Apr 27, 9:07 am, John Nagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The CPython implementation is unreasonably slow compared
to good implementations of other dynamic languages such
as LISP and JavaScript.
Why do you say CPython is slower than JavaScript? Please provide
examples.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 27, 9:07 am, John Nagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The CPython implementation is unreasonably slow compared
to good implementations of other dynamic languages such
as LISP and JavaScript.
Why do you say CPython is slower than JavaScript? Please provide
On 2007-04-27, Bruno Desthuilliers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Antoon Pardon a écrit :
On 2007-04-27, Bruno Desthuilliers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
7stud a écrit :
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Annoyances:
Every language has annoyances. Python is no exception.
Sure. But we may disagree on what
7stud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know what you mean. I always write:
someStringVar.len
and then I backspace and retype:
len(someString).
But then again, I can never remember whether length is a member or a
method in other languages.
... or whether it's called length, size, count or len. Or
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
There are bad programmers in every language, but RPL conditional
blocks aren't the cause of them. Once you learn how RPL works, if
statements work consistently and obviously (although maybe not to
programmers who don't get RP notation).
ACK. What made me anwswer wasn't
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bjoern Schliessmann wrote:
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
HP RPL made more sense: b if c [else d] end
Please explain.
HP RPL: b if c [else d] end
Python: b if c else d
What's the more sense here?
The HP RPL leaves even more questions. If the square brackets mean
On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 06:57:54 +, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 22:39:25 +0200, Bjoern Schliessmann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] declaimed the following
in comp.lang.python:
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
And I'll probably ignore those expressions whenever I do get
around to 2.5+...
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
You didn't take account of what b, c, and d were...
RPL: condition if truth else false end
Python: truth if condition else false
(RPL is a somewhat common reference to the stack based language of
the later calculators -- HP48, for instance)
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
John Nagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(P.S. PEP 3117 is a joke, right?)
I expect so, especially given its creation date.
Gary Duzan
Motorola CHS
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On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 10:58:25 +0200, Bjoern Schliessmann wrote:
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
You didn't take account of what b, c, and d were...
RPL: condition if truth else false end
Python: truth if condition else false
(RPL is a somewhat common reference to the
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steven Howe
wrote:
And before someone get's all technical, I know everything in Python is
an 'object' even None, which implies class, or is it the other way around?
Objects don't imply classes. There are object oriented languages without
classes like the Io language.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
(snip)
Well, why do some things in the library have to be functions, and
other things have to be class methods?
Why aren't they all just either functions or class methods? like
perhaps ruby.
If I tell you that Python's functions are in fact static methods of
Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch a écrit :
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steven Howe
wrote:
And before someone get's all technical, I know everything in Python is
an 'object' even None, which implies class, or is it the other way around?
Objects don't imply classes. There are object oriented languages
7stud a écrit :
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Annoyances:
Every language has annoyances. Python is no exception.
Sure. But we may disagree on what are actually Python's annoyances !-)
Post away.
Anyone that is offended can go drink a Guinness.
1. Underscores! What's the deal with that?
James Stroud wrote:
Here is something on which to meditate: classes become functions
when you get the quantum mechanics just so!
s/become/can behave like/
:)
Regards,
Björn
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Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Perhaps you should read about the Kingdom of Nouns:
http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/03/
execution-in-kingdom-of-nouns.html
Really cool. :) Thanks for sharing the link.
Regards,
Björn
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the router thinks its a printer.
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On 26 Apr, 21:50, Bjoern Schliessmann usenet-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
like perhaps ruby.
If I were rude, I would ask now why you don't use ruby. But I bet
ruby has some annoyances ready for you too.
Regards,
Björn
Well, I'd use ruby but python is everywhere, and ruby isn't. All the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, I'd use ruby but python is everywhere, and ruby isn't. All
the applications that interest me are scriptable in python, not
ruby.
Pity that you don't comment core topics.
Regards,
Björn
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Interference between the keyboard and the chair.
On 2007-04-27, Bruno Desthuilliers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
7stud a écrit :
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Annoyances:
Every language has annoyances. Python is no exception.
Sure. But we may disagree on what are actually Python's annoyances !-)
That is probably why the subject says: my
Python is not VB and Python is not Java and Python is not Ruby and
Python is not any other language that is not Python.
1. Functions cannot be called without the parens (like in VB)
2. Python uses some naming conventions as programmer cues, such as
leading and trailing double-underscores to
Paul McGuire wrote:
Python is not VB and Python is not Java and Python is not Ruby and
Python is not any other language that is not Python.
As someone who's written in too many programming languages over
a long career, I'm quite pleased with Python as a programming
language. It's
John Nagle wrote:
(P.S. PEP 3117 is a joke, right?)
Note date of creation.
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Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
On 27 Apr 2007 08:34:42 -0700, Paul McGuire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
declaimed the following in comp.lang.python:
deficient - ternary expressions are now part of the language after
years of refugees from C and C++ asking how to write a = b ? c : d,
and now they'll get to
On Apr 27, 12:42 pm, John Nagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
On 27 Apr 2007 08:34:42 -0700, Paul McGuire [EMAIL PROTECTED]
declaimed the following in comp.lang.python:
deficient - ternary expressions are now part of the language after
years of refugees from C and C++
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
And I'll probably ignore those expressions whenever I do get
around to 2.5+... That syntax, in my mind, just... stinks...
HP RPL made more sense: b if c [else d] end
Please explain.
HP RPL: b if c [else d] end
Python: b if c else d
What's the more sense here?
Antoon Pardon a écrit :
On 2007-04-27, Bruno Desthuilliers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
7stud a écrit :
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Annoyances:
Every language has annoyances. Python is no exception.
Sure. But we may disagree on what are actually Python's annoyances !-)
That is probably
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 15:50:53 -0700, flifus wrote:
Hi all. I'm learning python these days. I'm going to use this thread
to post, from time to time, my annoyances with python. I hope someone
will clarify things to me where I have misunderstood them.
Annoyances:
1. Underscores! What's the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all. I'm learning python these days. I'm going to use this
thread to post, from time to time, my annoyances with python. I
hope someone will clarify things to me where I have misunderstood
them.
Annoyances:
1. Underscores! What's the deal with that?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all. I'm learning python these days. I'm going to use this thread
to post, from time to time, my annoyances with python. I hope someone
will clarify things to me where I have misunderstood them.
Annoyances:
1. Underscores! What's the deal with that? Especially
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Annoyances:
Every language has annoyances. Python is no exception. Post away.
Anyone that is offended can go drink a Guinness.
1. Underscores! What's the deal with that? Especially those double
underscores. The best answer I read on this is that the double
7stud wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Annoyances:
Every language has annoyances. Python is no exception. Post away.
Anyone that is offended can go drink a Guinness.
I find Guinness annoying.
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On 26 Apr, 12:00, Bjoern Schliessmann usenet-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all. I'm learning python these days. I'm going to use this
thread to post, from time to time, my annoyances with python. I
hope someone will clarify things to me where I have misunderstood
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, why do some things in the library have to be functions, and
other things have to be class methods?
They don't have to be. They just are. That's like asking why do some
functions start with the letters a-m, and others with n-z. Why can't
they all begin with a-m?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, why do some things in the library have to be functions, and
other things have to be class methods?
Perhaps because some things are more naturally function like? For
'instance' (pardon the pun), functions shouldn't retain data. They
perform an operation,
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], flifus wrote:
Well, why do some things in the library have to be functions, and
other things have to be class methods?
Why aren't they all just either functions or class methods? like
perhaps ruby.
To which class should `sorted()` belong to then? Or the functions in
On 2007-04-26, Steven Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, why do some things in the library have to be functions,
and other things have to be class methods?
Perhaps because some things are more naturally function like?
For 'instance' (pardon the pun), functions
On 26 Apr 2007 20:05:45 +0200, Neil Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2007-04-26, Steven Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, why do some things in the library have to be functions,
and other things have to be class methods?
Perhaps because some things are more
be that their are no
abstract base classes / interfaces in the language so far. These have
a particular meaning and you might ask whether some object has certain
abilities like being sizable. With ABCs or interfaces it feels
natural to implement abstract methods in subclasses. Without them you
can either add methods ad
be that their are no
abstract base classes / interfaces in the language so far. These have
a particular meaning and you might ask whether some object has certain
abilities like being sizable. With ABCs or interfaces it feels
natural to implement abstract methods in subclasses. Without them you
can either add methods ad
On Apr 25, 11:50 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all. I'm learning python these days. I'm going to use this thread
to post, from time to time, my annoyances with python. I hope someone
will clarify things to me where I have misunderstood them.
Annoyances:
1. Underscores! What's the deal
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi. You wrote c++, didn't you?
Yes :) But I mostly don't anymore and ported my main project from
C++ to Python.
Well, why do some things in the library have to be functions, and
other things have to be class methods?
Easy. Some things abstractly operate on all kind
On Apr 26, 1:22 pm, Jean-Paul Calderone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 26 Apr 2007 20:05:45 +0200, Neil Cerutti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2007-04-26, Steven Howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, why do some things in the library have to be functions,
and other
More samples from that thread:
fica = Percent(7)
fedtax = Percent(15)
medicare = Percent(3)
deductions = fica + fedtax + medicare
gross = 10
net = gross - deductions
print net # answer: 75000
wholesale = 10
markup = Percent(35)
retail = wholesale + markup
print retail # answer: 13.5
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 09:07:03 -0700, flifus wrote:
Well, why do some things in the library have to be functions, and
other things have to be class methods?
Why aren't they all just either functions or class methods? like
perhaps ruby.
Perhaps you should read about the Kingdom of Nouns:
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 10:45:22 -0700, Steven Howe wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, why do some things in the library have to be functions, and
other things have to be class methods?
Perhaps because some things are more naturally function like? For
'instance' (pardon the pun),
Steve Holden wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all. I'm learning python these days. I'm going to use this thread
to post, from time to time, my annoyances with python. I hope someone
will clarify things to me where I have misunderstood them.
Annoyances:
2. There are modules, there are
Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
detail you shouldn't care about. Functions that cache the result of long
time-consuming complications are _good_.
Not necessarily --
http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2004/12/20/327369.aspx
asserts the exactly opposite principle, Don't
Alex Martelli wrote:
Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
detail you shouldn't care about. Functions that cache the result of long
time-consuming complications are _good_.
Not necessarily --
http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2004/12/20/327369.aspx
asserts the exactly
On Apr 26, 9:08 am, Michael Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
7stud wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Annoyances:
Every language has annoyances. Python is no exception. Post away.
Anyone that is offended can go drink a Guinness.
I find Guinness annoying.
--
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lol.
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 19:36:09 -0700, Alex Martelli wrote:
Steven D'Aprano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
detail you shouldn't care about. Functions that cache the result of long
time-consuming complications are _good_.
Not necessarily --
Absolutely -- I didn't mean to imply that
Hi all. I'm learning python these days. I'm going to use this thread
to post, from time to time, my annoyances with python. I hope someone
will clarify things to me where I have misunderstood them.
Annoyances:
1. Underscores! What's the deal with that? Especially those double
underscores. The
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
Hi all. I'm learning python these days. I'm going to use this thread
to post, from time to time, my annoyances with python. I hope someone
will clarify things to me where I have misunderstood them.
Annoyances:
1. Underscores! What's the deal with that?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all. I'm learning python these days. I'm going to use this thread
to post, from time to time, my annoyances with python. I hope someone
will clarify things to me where I have misunderstood them.
Annoyances:
1. Underscores! What's the deal with that? Especially
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all. I'm learning python these days. I'm going to use this thread
to post, from time to time, my annoyances with python.
Please start a new thread for each annoyance. Overuse of a single thread
is an annoyance to a great many people.
I hope someone
will clarify
I am currently using XML-RPC for a very convenient quick-and-dirty way of sending some files (base64 encoded).
The files can be bigger sometimes (10-20mb) and I was wondering if
there is a way to see how much data was sent already and how much still
needs to be sent (like a progress bar). I would
Ratko Jagodic wrote:
I am currently using XML-RPC for a very convenient quick-and-dirty way of
sending some files (base64 encoded).
The files can be bigger sometimes (10-20mb) and I was wondering if there is
a way to see how much data was sent already and how much still needs to be
sent
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I am absolutely loving my experience with Python. Even vs. Ruby, the syntax
feels very clean with an emphasis on simplification.
My only complaint is that there doesn't appear to be a great commercial IDE
for the language. I've tried Komodo, etc and they are nice applications,
but they don't
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CppNewB wrote:
Most of them have support for Dialogs, but what about more complex
UI's? I may need a resizable frame within a resizable frame? I
haven''t found a GUI builder with a great feel yet.
I *highly* recommend wxDesigner. I've used it extensively. It's cheap
and has a demo version
CppNewB a écrit :
I am absolutely loving my experience with Python. Even vs. Ruby, the syntax
feels very clean with an emphasis on simplification.
My only complaint is that there doesn't appear to be a great commercial IDE
for the language. I've tried Komodo, etc and they are nice
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christophe
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 9:50 AM
To: python-list@python.org
Subject: Re: So far
CppNewB a écrit :
I am absolutely loving my experience with Python. Even vs. Ruby, the syntax
feels very clean with an emphasis on simplification.
My only complaint
Take a look at:
http://wingware.com/
It is only $35.00 for an IDE. (30 day free eval version)
I use eclipse for java, and have become quite fond of tab completion.
Mike
CppNewB wrote:
I am absolutely loving my experience with Python. Even vs. Ruby, the syntax
feels very clean with an
CppNewB wrote:
I am absolutely loving my experience with Python. Even vs. Ruby, the syntax
feels very clean with an emphasis on simplification.
My only complaint is that there doesn't appear to be a great commercial IDE
Why commercial ?
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python -c print
On 10/6/05, CppNewB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am absolutely loving my experience with Python. Even vs. Ruby, the syntax
feels very clean with an emphasis on simplification.
Yes. We all love python, welcome aboard!
My only complaint is that there doesn't appear to be a great commercial IDE
On 10/6/05, Bell, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I like pythonWin other than the white background where you write your
scripts, because after awhile it's bad on the eyes. Does anyone know of a
free IDE that will allow control of this, as well as the coloring of
keywords, etc?
xemacs will
This is something I fought with for a long time. My overwhelming vote
is Eclipse with the PyDev plugin. (Google search should reveal this).
Here are the pros and cons.
1) Eclipse is a _big_ system, with a strong emphasis on Java. So
there's a lot of functionality you need to learn to
On Oct 06, Kenneth McDonald wrote:
The only _real_ problem is the eclipse learning curve.
The only real *advantage* of Eclipse (over other suggested tools) is its
highly hyped automatic refactoring. Admittedly, I have not used it for
Python development, but I'm skeptical of the feasibility of
Micah Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Furthermore, Eclipse requires java and is thusly not provided on any
linux distro I'm familiar with, which I consider a huge roadblock. And
as mentioned, it's bloated.
It comes with Fedora Core 4 and is compiled with gcj.
I would suspect that the
As I did mention in my original post, Eclipse is indeed bloated.
However, in spite of that, I've found it both fast and reliable (much
to surprise). The only real problem is learning what functionality
(the majority) to ignore.
PyDev offers nice integration with Python. If I run a python
On Thursday 06 October 2005 15:45, Micah Elliott wrote:
On Oct 06, Kenneth McDonald wrote:
The only _real_ problem is the eclipse learning curve.
The only real *advantage* of Eclipse (over other suggested tools) is
its highly hyped automatic refactoring. Admittedly, I have not used
it for
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