On Oct 10, 4:11 am, Matthias Buelow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Is this some sport of yours to constantly create new gmail accounts and
> spam Usenet?
I am not a spammer. You, however, *are* a liar.
[snip remaining insults]
[correct newsgroups: header after attempted hijacking to make my
respo
On Oct 11, 5:40 pm, "John W. Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Do not bluntly contradict me in public.
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> [death threat deleted]
Insults and other such falsehoods will be deleted rather than repeated
and death threats will be reported to your
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Do not bluntly contradict me in public.
You are in grave need of professional psychiatric help.
Seek it now, if you do not wish your life to be ended three or four
years down the line by a police sniper.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Oct 8, 7:32 am, Joost Kremers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>>>Don't both "man" and those words for measurement come ultimately from
>>>words for "hand" (similarly to words like "manual", as in labor)?
>>
>>no.
>
>
> Do not bluntly con
On 10 Oct, 02:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Do not bluntly contradict me in public.
2 + 2 = 5
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
^
Is this some sport of yours to constantly create new gmail accounts and
spam Usenet?
> So you assert, but "man" bears a much closer resemblance to "manus"
> than it does to "mens".
This is irrelevant. Consult an etymological dictionary.
F'up-to: c
On Oct 8, 7:32 am, Joost Kremers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Don't both "man" and those words for measurement come ultimately from
> > words for "hand" (similarly to words like "manual", as in labor)?
>
> no.
Do not bluntly contradict me in public.
> "manual" is deri
George Neuner writes:
>
> Or, how about politics? Another example from the Judeo-Christian
> Bible (that is, from the Old Testament), politicking was the sin that
> resulted in Lucifer's fall from God's grace.
that's not a God, but an inferior demiurge,
as correctly figured by Marcion
> [Yeah,
"Damien Kick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> This thread of conversation also popped into my head when I was waiting in
> line at the Starbucks in the building in which I work. I've been ordering
> a lot of Americanos lately. I always ask for a small American
Wildemar Wildenburger wrote:
> Frank Goenninger wrote:
>> On 2007-09-29 01:27:04 +0200, Damien Kick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>
>>> If you were referring to the "free" in "free Mumia Abu Jamal", I
>>> would agree with you. I don't think anyone would imagine that this
>>> phrase meant that someo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Don't both "man" and those words for measurement come ultimately from
> words for "hand" (similarly to words like "manual", as in labor)?
no. "manual" is derived from latin "manus" meaning "hand". the word "man"
is related to (though not directly derived from) "mind", an
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Don't both "man" and those words for measurement come ultimately from
> words for "hand" (similarly to words like "manual", as in labor)? Our
> clever hands with their opposable thumbs being considered a defining
> characteristic. And our tool use thus derived. Handspans
On Oct 7, 9:07 pm, Damien Kick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Perhaps our word "man" (manas) still expresses something of precisely
> this feeling of self-satisfaction: man designated himself as the
> creature that measures values, evaluates and measures, as the "valuating
> animal as such".[1]
Don'
Roedy Green wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:27:04 -0500, Damien Kick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
>
>> "free as in beer".
>
> but does not "free beer" nearly always come with a catch or implied
> obligation?
I had been trying to find a good Nietzs
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> For example, a dog with no owner, wandering freely (adverb), would not be
> called a free dog (adjective), to mean possessing freedom.
Yes it would. City council regulations would commonly contain phrases such
as "dogs are not allowed to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Wildemar Wildenburger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
>
>> While I agree that the word "free" implies "free of monetary cost" to
>> many people societies, that is by no means set in stone (talk to native
>> americans, blacks, jews, palestinians,
Wildemar Wildenburger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> While I agree that the word "free" implies "free of monetary cost" to
> many people societies, that is by no means set in stone (talk to native
> americans, blacks, jews, palestinians, etc. about the word free, see
>
J. Clifford Dyer a écrit :
> On Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 04:49:50PM +0200, Wildemar Wildenburger wrote
> regarding Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and
> keybinding:
>
>> Steve Holden wrote:
>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>> In message
On Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 04:49:50PM +0200, Wildemar Wildenburger wrote regarding
Re: The Modernization of Emacs: terminology buffer and keybinding:
>
> Steve Holden wrote:
> > Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> >> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve
> >> Hol
Steve Holden wrote:
> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve
>> Holden wrote:
>>
>>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, George Neuner
wrote:
> The Christian Bible says "In the beginning was the Word..."
Which is an Eng
Tim X wrote:
> "The Americans are identical to the British in all respects except, of
> course, language." Oscar Wilde
> "We (the British and Americans) are two countries separated by a common
> language. G.B. Shaw
> There is a well-known saying: Two nations separated by a common language.
>
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve
> Holden wrote:
>
>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, George Neuner
>>> wrote:
>>>
The Christian Bible says "In the beginning was the Word..."
>>> Which is an English mistranslation from the Gr
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve
Holden wrote:
> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, George Neuner
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The Christian Bible says "In the beginning was the Word..."
>>
>> Which is an English mistranslation from the Greek "logos".
>
> So, now you're te
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, George Neuner
> wrote:
>
>> The Christian Bible says "In the beginning was the Word..."
>
> Which is an English mistranslation from the Greek "logos".
So, now you're telling me that the Garden of Eden was actually a
*marketing campaig
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bent C Dalager wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately, these days English almost always means American English...
>
> North American or South American? Seems like USAmericans speak a little
> different English from other Americans...
Leave him be i
George Neuner writes:
> On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 09:36:40 + (UTC), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bent C
> Dalager) wrote:
>
>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bent C Dalager) writes:
>>>
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Frank Goenninger
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bent C Dalager wrote:
> Unfortunately, these days English almost always means American English...
North American or South American? Seems like USAmericans speak a little
different English from other Americans...
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In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, George Neuner
wrote:
> The Christian Bible says "In the beginning was the Word..."
Which is an English mistranslation from the Greek "logos".
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On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 23:07:32 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>George Neuner wrote:
>> Symbolism over substance has become the mantra
>> of the young.
>
>"Symbolism: The practice of representing things by means of symbols or
>of attributing symbolic meanings or significance to objects, events, or
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve
Holden wrote:
> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, George Neuner
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dictionaries used to be the arbiters of the language ...
>>
>> No they didn't. Before Doctor Johnson, there were no dictionaries.
>
> And before the
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 18:20:38 + (UTC), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bent C
Dalager) wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>George Neuner wrote:
>>On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 09:36:40 + (UTC), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bent C
>>Dalager) wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Only if you're being exceedingly pedantic and probably not ev
>Tell me, do you know what "hyperbole" means?
Betcha' Ludwig Wittgenstein coulda' told ya'!
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George Neuner wrote:
> Symbolism over substance has become the mantra
> of the young.
"Symbolism: The practice of representing things by means of symbols or
of attributing symbolic meanings or significance to objects, events, or
relationships."
One might even suggest that all written language i
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, George Neuner
> wrote:
>
>> Dictionaries used to be the arbiters of the language ...
>
> No they didn't. Before Doctor Johnson, there were no dictionaries.
And before the Big bang there was nothing (perhaps). What's your point?
regard
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, George Neuner
wrote:
> Dictionaries used to be the arbiters of the language ...
No they didn't. Before Doctor Johnson, there were no dictionaries.
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rjack wrote:
> Webster? WEBSTER. . . ?
>
> Whatever happened to the Oxford English Dictionary ?
> Seems to me the English have always spoken the definitive
> English. . . that's why they call it ENGLISH.
What is in a name? A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet.
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
rjack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Webster? WEBSTER. . . ?
>
>Whatever happened to the Oxford English Dictionary ?
It suffers from not being in my "dict" installation I suppose.
>Seems to me the English have always spoken the definitive
>English. . . that's why the
Bent C Dalager wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bent C Dalager) writes:
>>
>>> I have never claimed equivalence. What I have made claims about are
>>> the properties of one of the meanings of a word. Specifically, my
>>> claim
Webster? WEBSTER. . . ?
Whatever happened to the Oxford English Dictionary ?
Seems to me the English have always spoken the definitive
English. . . that's why they call it ENGLISH.
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David Kastrup wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bent C Dalager) writes:
>
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bent C Dalager) writes:
>>>
>>> Not as much "been" liberated, but "turned" liberated.
>> I expect that either way you split this h
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bent C Dalager) writes:
>
>> I have never claimed equivalence. What I have made claims about are
>> the properties of one of the meanings of a word. Specifically, my
>> claim is that "free" is a reasonable
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bent C Dalager) writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bent C Dalager) writes:
>>
>>Not as much "been" liberated, but "turned" liberated.
>
> I expect that either way you split this hair, using "free" in the
> sen
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bent C Dalager) writes:
>
>Not as much "been" liberated, but "turned" liberated.
I expect that either way you split this hair, using "free" in the
sense of "possessing liberty" is still going to be quite
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bent C Dalager) writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> George Neuner wrote:
>>On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 09:36:40 + (UTC), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bent C
>>Dalager) wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Only if you're being exceedingly pedantic and probably not even
>>>then. Webster 1913 lists, among
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
George Neuner wrote:
>On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 09:36:40 + (UTC), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bent C
>Dalager) wrote:
>
>>
>>Only if you're being exceedingly pedantic and probably not even
>>then. Webster 1913 lists, among other meanings,
>>
>>Free
>>(...)
>>"Liberated, by arr
On Wed, 3 Oct 2007 09:36:40 + (UTC), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bent C
Dalager) wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bent C Dalager) writes:
>>
>>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>> Frank Goenninger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bent C Dalager) writes:
>
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> Frank Goenninger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>Well, I didn't start the discussion. So you should ask the OP about the
>>>why. I jumped
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bent C Dalager) writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Frank Goenninger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>Well, I didn't start the discussion. So you should ask the OP about the
>>why. I jumped in when I came across the so often mentioned "hey, it's
>>all well defined" sta
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Frank Goenninger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Well, I didn't start the discussion. So you should ask the OP about the
>why. I jumped in when I came across the so often mentioned "hey, it's
>all well defined" statement was brought in. I simply said that if that
>
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kamen TOMOV wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 30 2007, Klaus Schilling wrote:
>
>> private property is unethical
>
> How I craved to read that!
>
> Viva la revolution!
Ewige Blumenkraft!
French-Canadian bean soup!
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Kamen TOMOV wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 30 2007, Klaus Schilling wrote:
>
>> ...
>> private property is unethical
>
> How I craved to read that!
>
> Viva la revolution!
>
> Ест человек - ест проблем,
> Нет человек - нет проблем!
>
> The End justify the means!
>
> Long live communism!
>
ENDUT! HOC
On 2007-10-01 23:37:28 +0200, Wildemar Wildenburger
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Frank Goenninger wrote:
>> On 2007-09-29 01:27:04 +0200, Damien Kick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>
>>> If you were referring to the "free" in "free Mumia Abu Jamal", I would
>>> agree with you. I don't think anyone
On Sun, Sep 30 2007, Klaus Schilling wrote:
> ...
> private property is unethical
How I craved to read that!
Viva la revolution!
Ест человек - ест проблем,
Нет человек - нет проблем!
The End justify the means!
Long live communism!
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On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 01:16:25 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Ken Tilton wrote:
>> Kenny happened to solve the traveling
>> salesman problem and protein-folding and passed the fricking Turing test
>> by using add-42 wherever he needed 42 added to a number, and RMS wants
>> credit and ownership
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 03:38:08 GMT, Roedy Green
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:27:04 -0500, Damien Kick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
>
>>"free as in beer".
>
>but does not "free beer" nearly always come with a catch or implied
>obli
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:27:04 -0500, Damien Kick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
>"free as in beer".
but does not "free beer" nearly always come with a catch or implied
obligation?
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Ken Tilton wrote:
> Kenny happened to solve the traveling
> salesman problem and protein-folding and passed the fricking Turing test
> by using add-42 wherever he needed 42 added to a number, and RMS wants
> credit and ownership and control of it all.
That might be what RMS wants (or not, I'v
Frank Goenninger wrote:
> On 2007-09-29 01:27:04 +0200, Damien Kick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
>> If you were referring to the "free" in "free Mumia Abu Jamal", I would
>> agree with you. I don't think anyone would imagine that this phrase
>> meant that someone was going to get Mumia Abu Jamal
Ken Tilton a écrit :
>
>
> Matthias Benkard wrote:
>
>>> So this has nothing to
>>> do with freedom in /any/ sense of the word, it has to do with a
>>> political agenda opposed to the idea of private property.
>>
>> Freedom is inherently political, you know. You're condemning the FSF
>> for bei
Ken Tilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Oh, I missed that. I just saw something about software should be
> shared
of course it should, as otherwise it would be immoral,
> and programmers should be content with an hourly wage, not
> sales.
>
only greedy creeps wouldn't be content
Klaus Schill
Matthias Benkard wrote:
>>So this has nothing to
>>do with freedom in /any/ sense of the word, it has to do with a
>>political agenda opposed to the idea of private property.
>
>
> Freedom is inherently political, you know. You're condemning the FSF
> for being political, although the FSF's st
> So this has nothing to
> do with freedom in /any/ sense of the word, it has to do with a
> political agenda opposed to the idea of private property.
Freedom is inherently political, you know. You're condemning the FSF
for being political, although the FSF's stated purpose is a political
one. H
On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 08:43:39 +0200, Klaus Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
tried to confuse everyone with this message:
>
>that's because it's immoral not to give it all
>
>which is necessary in a moral culture.
>Only an immoral culture may accept non-disclosure
>
>private property is unethical
>
I
Ken Tilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Sure, but where does the infection thing come in? Suppose RMS
> publishes a new library call add-42, whose api is add-42, inputs n,
> outputs n+42, source left as an exercise, and Kenny decides he can use
> it, it is great. Now if Kenny uses it in his comm
Ken Tilton wrote:
> No wonder the GPL has gone nowhere.
Bwaahahahaha. Keep smokin' that crack, there.
> Freely. RMS reasonably wanted that
> add-42 not get co-opted, but that in no way necessitated the land grab
> that is GPL.
You (and probably KMP) are presuming the validity of copyright mon
On 2007-09-29 01:27:04 +0200, Damien Kick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 23:08:02 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> So much for the "free" in "free software". If you can't actually use
>>> it without paying money, whether for the software or for some
Damien Kick wrote:
> Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 23:08:02 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> So much for the "free" in "free software". If you can't actually use
>>> it without paying money, whether for the software or for some book, it
>>> isn't really free, is it?
>>
Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 23:08:02 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> So much for the "free" in "free software". If you can't actually use
>> it without paying money, whether for the software or for some book, it
>> isn't really free, is it?
>
> Please do not confuse the term
The following is a FAQ from emacs modernization
http://xahlee.org/emacs/modernization.html
Q: Emacs's undo is superior, because the prevalent Undo/Redo system
actually loss info.
A: Emac's undo is very confusing and does not have a Redo command. To
redo after a undo, people are told to type somet
The following article a extended version of previous post.
A HTML version can be found at
http://xahlee.org/emacs/emacs_kb_shortcuts_pain.html
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WHY EMACS'S KEYBOARD SHORTCUTS ARE PAINFUL
Xah Lee, 2007-07
A important aspect in designing a keyboard shortcut set,
Why Emacs's Keyboard Shortcuts Are Painful
Xah Lee, 2007-07
A important aspect in designing keyboard shortcuts is to have keyboard
shortcuts for those most frequently used commands, and, the most
frequently used commands should have most easily-pressed keystrokes.
For example, they should be on t
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 06:17:00 -0700, Xah Lee wrote:
> About a month ago, i posted a message about modernization of emacs. I
> enlisted several items that i think emacs should adapt.
And you are posting this to compl.lang.perl because.??
F'up set.
M4
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Rustom Mody wrote:
> Eh? Me? you?? Who???
> Did I say something offensive? Sorry if I did... but I dont understand...
>
>
No no, it's cool. Maybe I was a little too terse. Xah Lee likes to
crosspost his pseudo-philosophical tech-musings to several discussion
groups at regular intervalls. He's
Sorry, I don't understand why this is still on the python mailing list.
:wq
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Xah Lee wrote:
> In Emacs's documentation, the term Meta key should be replaced with
> the Alt key, to reflect current usage, since that is the keyboard 99%
> of personal computer users know. The "Meta key" name is a major point
> of confusion for getting people to learn Emacs.
This is utter bul
Eh? Me? you?? Who???
Did I say something offensive? Sorry if I did... but I dont understand...
I must say that I found the earlier post useful to me as an old-time
emacs user who's not quite upto all the latest stuff. However it was
quite off topic for a python list.
The flame war that followed w
Rustom Mody wrote:
> But how does posting an emacs related question help on a python mailing list??
>
One Word: Ego.
Don't reply.
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Xah Lee:
I agree with what you say now and most of what you wrote a month back
-- I even learnt something useful from there -- longlines mode.
Emacs is important to me and (I guess) to many of the subscribers here.
But how does posting an emacs related question help on a python mailing list??
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About a month ago, i posted a message about modernization of emacs. I
enlisted several items that i think emacs should adapt.
Today I added another section to the frequestly asked questions.
The new section is pasted below. The full article can be found at
http://xahlee.org/emacs/modernization.htm
Hullo,
I was just wondering if this thread was whithering out.. I gues not for
a good time.
A short summary in the hope for the last posting in this topic.
Some provocative posting caused or Twister brother to send a large amount of
doubtful info. It seems, he had some very bad experience w
Twisted wrote:
[on 7/7/07]: I don't know, but it sure as hell isn't emacs.
Then, more recently:
> On Jul 12, 7:10 pm, Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Twisted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> I won't dignify your insulting twaddle and random ad-hominem verbiage
>>> with any more response
On Jul 12, 7:10 pm, Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Twisted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I won't dignify your insulting twaddle and random ad-hominem verbiage
> > with any more responses after this one. Something with actual logical
> > argumentation to rebut may be another matter of co
Twisted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I won't dignify your insulting twaddle and random ad-hominem verbiage
> with any more responses after this one. Something with actual logical
> argumentation to rebut may be another matter of course.
Er, why don't you just answer his question (what version)?
David Kastrup wrote:
> Twisted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Judging by the existence of the newsgroup comp.emacs, emacs is
>> indeed considered by some to be a quite valuable antique. Otherwise
>> why on earth would it have an apparently fairly active newsgroup a
>> full seven years into the
Twisted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Jul 8, 4:28 am, Adriano Varoli Piazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> b) If you do want to keep an antediluvian copy of emacs -probably
>> versioned in the negative numbers, for all you've said- please do. Do
>> be so kind as to send a copy, since it might be
Twisted wrote:
> I, for one, have a strong preference for interfaces that let me see
> what the hell I'm doing and make it easy to find commands, navigate
> the interface, navigate the help, and so forth, while making me resort
> to reaching for that help as infrequently as reasonably achievable.
On Jul 8, 12:18 pm, Bjorn Borud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> uh, I think the point here is that some think it might be an idea to
> force *their* idea of the ideal interface upon others, refusing to
> understand that people might have their own preferences.
I, for one, have a strong preference for
On Jul 8, 4:28 am, Adriano Varoli Piazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> b) If you do want to keep an antediluvian copy of emacs -probably
> versioned in the negative numbers, for all you've said- please do. Do
> be so kind as to send a copy, since it might be quite valuable as an
> antique.
Judging
[Twisted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
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| Translation: since perfection is unattainable, we shouldn't even try,
| and just foist upon our poor users whatever awkward and hard-to-learn
| interface pops into our heads first?
uh, I think the point here is that some think it might be an idea to
force *their*
Twisted wrote:
> On Jul 7, 6:12 pm, Lew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Twisted wrote:
>> Edward Dodge wrote:
So -- what magical computer app illuminates the entire room and shows
you how to use everything at the flip of a switch? This brilliant
discovery would put Sam's, O'Reilly, th
Twisted wrote:
[...]
BASTA. Basta, cazzo (unprintable, Italian). Stop it. It wasn't funny
10 messages into your subthread, and it's even less fun now. It's
obvious you're trolling, but nevertheless, in the undescribably
improbable case you _are_ being serious:
a) Notepad is over there: --->*
b) If
Twisted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Jul 7, 6:12 pm, Lew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Twisted wrote:
>> Edward Dodge wrote:
>> >> So -- what magical computer app illuminates the entire room and shows
>> >> you how to use everything at the flip of a switch? This brilliant
>> >> discovery woul
On Jul 7, 6:12 pm, Lew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Twisted wrote:
> Edward Dodge wrote:
> >> So -- what magical computer app illuminates the entire room and shows
> >> you how to use everything at the flip of a switch? This brilliant
> >> discovery would put Sam's, O'Reilly, the for-Dummies serie
Twisted wrote:
Edward Dodge wrote:
>> So -- what magical computer app illuminates the entire room and shows
>> you how to use everything at the flip of a switch? This brilliant
>> discovery would put Sam's, O'Reilly, the for-Dummies series, and
>> virtually every other computer book publisher out
On Jul 7, 4:26 pm, Edward Dodge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So -- what magical computer app illuminates the entire room and shows
> you how to use everything at the flip of a switch? This brilliant
> discovery would put Sam's, O'Reilly, the for-Dummies series, and
> virtually every other computer
Twisted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Besides, ANY interface that involves fumbling around in the dark
> trying to find a light switch is clunky. You should be able to see
> what the hell you're doing and navigate easily. Applications that not
> only eschew normal methods of navigation of the inte
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Monday 25 June 2007
15:43 in comp.emacs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Eclipse has something that generates "import" statements with
> a few keystrokes, and for me that's almost in the "killer app
> [feature]" class.
This is a sign of a weak programming
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I find Windows and its tools as frustrating as you seem to find
> Unix, but I strongly suspect that being shown the ropes by someone
> who understands and likes the system would help a lot.
I feel the same way about Windows being frustrating, howe
Twisted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>On Jun 27, 8:26 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timofei Shatrov) wrote:
>>
>> Lie. Ghostscript works out of the box on Windows.
>
>You're joking. First of all I am not a liar, and secondly, Ghostscript
>and Ghostview are tricky to set up correctly. I know -- I've done i
On 6/28/07, Andreas Eder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Twisted> In the other corner, we have just about every Unix application
> ever
> Twisted> developed. When a user needs help, they may do such things as
> manually
> Twisted> explore the directories where the application was instal
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