Re: The ONLY thing that prevents me from using Python

2005-08-24 Thread Richie Hindle
[Chris] Not to be a shill, but I'd be interested in testimonials on http://linode.org/ I wonder if virtualization is the next killer app. Certainly blows the WTF my ISP? question away... I can't speak for linode.org, but I have a Xen VPS from rimuhosting.com and it's early days but so far

Re: The ONLY thing that prevents me from using Python

2005-08-24 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 09:49:01AM +0100, Richie Hindle wrote: [Chris] Not to be a shill, but I'd be interested in testimonials on http://linode.org/ I wonder if virtualization is the next killer app. Certainly blows the WTF my ISP? question away... I can't speak for linode.org, but

Re: The ONLY thing that prevents me from using Python

2005-08-24 Thread Magnus Lycka
Andreas Kostyrka wrote: I cannot comment on linode as I'm not a customer. The info on the website seems ok. But the prices are somehow laughable: I'm currently paying EUR39 for a dedicated host (with at least 200GB traffic, I'd had to look it up 60GB storage, 256MB RAM and a 2.4GHz P4 CPU

Re: The ONLY thing that prevents me from using Python

2005-08-24 Thread Paul Rubin
Richie Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can't speak for linode.org, but I have a Xen VPS from rimuhosting.com and it's early days but so far I've been very impressed. It's $19/mo (normally $20 but they kindly gave me a 5% Open Source Developer discount) Do you get enough resources in that

Re: The ONLY thing that prevents me from using Python

2005-08-24 Thread D H
Paul Rubin wrote: Richie Hindle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can't speak for linode.org, but I have a Xen VPS from rimuhosting.com and it's early days but so far I've been very impressed. It's $19/mo (normally $20 but they kindly gave me a 5% Open Source Developer discount) Do you get

Re: The ONLY thing that prevents me from using Python

2005-08-23 Thread Chris Smith
Kevin == Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kevin I have been using java (jsp/servlets), vb/asp and perl for Kevin a few years. Almost all my projects are web site Kevin development related, and many of my clients' web sites are Kevin hosted on those shared web hosting services.

Re: The ONLY thing that prevents me from using Python

2005-08-06 Thread Paul Rubin
Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The only way ISPs will find out that Python is popular is if potential customers tell them they need it. So if they say no, be *sure* and tell them you won't be using them because of that. I think the issue is low cost web hosts, not ISP's. PHP is much

The ONLY thing that prevents me from using Python

2005-08-05 Thread Kevin
I have been using java (jsp/servlets), vb/asp and perl for a few years. Almost all my projects are web site development related, and many of my clients' web sites are hosted on those shared web hosting services. The problem is that it's difficult to find hosting services with Python installed and

Re: The ONLY thing that prevents me from using Python

2005-08-05 Thread Bill Mill
snip I really wish Python could be more widely available on web server machines. This is just my own experience and I would like to hear your comments. I would like a pony... no, wait, even better, a unicorn! Peace Bill Mill bill.mill at gmail.com PS (the gist is, why don't you offer some

Re: The ONLY thing that prevents me from using Python

2005-08-05 Thread Benji York
Kevin wrote: I have been using java (jsp/servlets), vb/asp and perl for a few years. Almost all my projects are web site development related, and many of my clients' web sites are hosted on those shared web hosting services. The problem is that it's difficult to find hosting services with

Re: The ONLY thing that prevents me from using Python

2005-08-05 Thread Istvan Albert
There are plenty of webhosts that offer python, do a little research. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: The ONLY thing that prevents me from using Python

2005-08-05 Thread Terry Reedy
Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The problem is that it's difficult to find hosting services with Python installed and supported. The Python Wiki has lists of both free and commercial hosting services. The top page is http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonHosting.

Re: The ONLY thing that prevents me from using Python

2005-08-05 Thread Roy Smith
Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem is that it's difficult to find hosting services with Python installed and supported. I just googled for [web hosting python] and got 1,250,000 hits. I can personally recommend panix.com, but there's plenty of other choices too. --

Re: The ONLY thing that prevents me from using Python

2005-08-05 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Kevin wrote: cut, can't get as many python web hosters as I want Well, for some strange reason I have never found that to be a problem. But that is perhaps because I'm an administrator and I want full root access, install the OS as I see fit and don't want others on the same (virtual)box. So

Re: The ONLY thing that prevents me from using Python

2005-08-05 Thread Kevin
Thank you all for the messages. I agree with Bill on that I was just whining here. I should do a bit more research. I guess I am just getting accustomed to the endless supplies of asp/php hosting services. All I need to do is shopping for the lowest price/good service. But it's not the case for

Re: The ONLY thing that prevents me from using Python

2005-08-05 Thread Magnus Lycka
Martin P. Hellwig wrote: Kevin wrote: cut, can't get as many python web hosters as I want Well, for some strange reason I have never found that to be a problem. If you develop software for an external customer, and they have an existing web site run by some ISP that you have no control over,

Re: The ONLY thing that prevents me from using Python

2005-08-05 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Magnus Lycka wrote: Martin P. Hellwig wrote: Kevin wrote: cut, can't get as many python web hosters as I want Well, for some strange reason I have never found that to be a problem. If you develop software for an external customer, and they have an existing web site run by some ISP

Re: The ONLY thing that prevents me from using Python

2005-08-05 Thread Paul McGuire
Just because a hosting service doesn't list Python on their web page doesn't mean that it's not available. My company's service (LunarPages) supports Python, and only recently has it started appearing on their online literature. Once you find your service based on price/support/etc., send them

Re: The ONLY thing that prevents me from using Python

2005-08-05 Thread fuzzylollipop
lazy newbie programmers, that is what the world needs more of for sure! -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: The ONLY thing that prevents me from using Python

2005-08-05 Thread D H
I would highly recommend user-mode linux (UML) hosting, like bytemark or Linode: http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/uses.html Starting around the same price as average shared hosting, you get your own virtual linux box (i recommend debian), on which you can install java, mod_python, php,

Re: The ONLY thing that prevents me from using Python

2005-08-05 Thread Mike Meyer
Paul McGuire [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Once you find your service based on price/support/etc., send them an e-mail asking for Python support. The worst they can say is no, and we never will, but just as likely they might respond yes, it's already there or yes, we can add that. The only way

Re: The ONLY thing that prevents me from using Python

2005-08-05 Thread EP
Mike Meyer writes: The only way ISPs will find out that Python is popular is if potential customers tell them they need it. So if they say no, be *sure* and tell them you won't be using them because of that. I think this is an issue of critical mass, but I know minds the like of this