Re: The node.js Community is Quietly Changing the Face of Open Source

2013-04-17 Thread Stefan Behnel
Steven D'Aprano, 17.04.2013 11:16: > If you look at the node.js site, the first thing that jumps out at me is > that the culture encourages churning out packages rather than encouraging > quality packages. The front page offers author recognition for being > prolific, but not for writing good co

Re: The node.js Community is Quietly Changing the Face of Open Source

2013-04-17 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 12:02:01 -0400, Rodrick Brown wrote: > I came across this article which sums up some of the issues I have with > modern programming languages. I've never really looked at Javascript for > anything serious or Node itself but I found this article really > informational. > > "The

Re: The node.js Community is Quietly Changing the Face of Open Source

2013-04-17 Thread Antoine Pitrou
rusi gmail.com> writes: > > Just what I said: ecosystem matters. We may or may not argue about > "more than language", but it surely matters. Some examples: > > 1. In the link that Roderick originally posted there is a long comment > that adds perl to the languages the author discussed. As a la

Re: The node.js Community is Quietly Changing the Face of Open Source

2013-04-16 Thread rusi
On Apr 16, 10:42 pm, Terry Jan Reedy wrote: > > "The “Batteries included” philosophy of Python was definitely the right > > approach during the mid 90’s and one of the reasons that I loved Python > > so much; this was a time before modern package management, and before it > > was easy to find and

Re: The node.js Community is Quietly Changing the Face of Open Source

2013-04-16 Thread rusi
On Apr 16, 10:36 pm, Andrew Berg wrote: > On 2013.04.16 12:14, rusi wrote:> However combine it with your other statement > > >> Python's package  management is suboptimal (though it is being worked on), > > > and a different picture emerges, viz that *the ecosystem around the > > language matters

Re: The node.js Community is Quietly Changing the Face of Open Source

2013-04-16 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 2:50 AM, Andrew Berg wrote: > On 2013.04.16 11:02, Rodrick Brown wrote: >> I came across this article which sums up some of the issues I have with >> modern programming languages. I've never really looked at Javascript >> for anything serious or Node itself but I found thi

Re: The node.js Community is Quietly Changing the Face of Open Source

2013-04-16 Thread Terry Jan Reedy
On 4/16/2013 12:02 PM, Rodrick Brown wrote: I came across this article which sums up some of the issues I have with modern programming languages. I've never really looked at Javascript for anything serious or Node itself but I found this article really informational. "The “Batteries included” ph

Re: The node.js Community is Quietly Changing the Face of Open Source

2013-04-16 Thread Andrew Berg
On 2013.04.16 12:14, rusi wrote: > However combine it with your other statement > >> Python's package management is suboptimal (though it is being worked on), > > and a different picture emerges, viz that *the ecosystem around the > language matters more than the language* It was a minor point,

Re: The node.js Community is Quietly Changing the Face of Open Source

2013-04-16 Thread rusi
For javascript *the language* this is a good watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXEgk1Hdze0 However I believe that the language view is a bit dated. On Apr 16, 9:50 pm, Andrew Berg wrote: > Perhaps having a minimal core works well for node.js, but Python is much, > much better off having it

Re: The node.js Community is Quietly Changing the Face of Open Source

2013-04-16 Thread Andrew Berg
On 2013.04.16 11:02, Rodrick Brown wrote: > I came across this article which sums up some of the issues I have with > modern programming languages. I've never really looked at Javascript > for anything serious or Node itself but I found this article really > informational. I don't think the aut

Re: The node.js Community is Quietly Changing the Face of Open Source

2013-04-16 Thread Sven
On 16 April 2013 17:25, Ned Batchelder wrote: > On 4/16/2013 12:02 PM, Rodrick Brown wrote: > > I came across this article which sums up some of the issues I have with > modern programming languages. I've never really looked at Javascript for > anything serious or Node itself but I found this a

Re: The node.js Community is Quietly Changing the Face of Open Source

2013-04-16 Thread Ned Batchelder
On 4/16/2013 12:02 PM, Rodrick Brown wrote: I came across this article which sums up some of the issues I have with modern programming languages. I've never really looked at Javascript for anything serious or Node itself but I found this article really informational. "The "Batteries included"

The node.js Community is Quietly Changing the Face of Open Source

2013-04-16 Thread Rodrick Brown
I came across this article which sums up some of the issues I have with modern programming languages. I've never really looked at Javascript for anything serious or Node itself but I found this article really informational. "The “Batteries included” philosophy of Python was definitely the right ap