Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-13 Thread Michael F. Stemper
On 2018-02-10 16:40, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 8:52 AM, Chris Green wrote: Michael F. Stemper wrote: On 2018-02-09 13:37, Chris Green wrote: Use ssh (is that available at worK?) to connect from work to home Your ISP

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-11 Thread Michael F. Stemper
On 2018-02-09 13:37, Chris Green wrote: Alternative approach, what I do:- Run a text mode (but very capable and mouse aware) newsreader on my home system, read news locally using that. Use ssh (is that available at worK?) to connect from work to home Your ISP provides that

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-11 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 8:52 AM, Chris Green wrote: > Michael F. Stemper wrote: >> On 2018-02-09 13:37, Chris Green wrote: >> >> > Alternative approach, what I do:- >> > >> > Run a text mode (but very capable and mouse aware) newsreader on >> >

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google

2018-02-11 Thread alister via Python-list
On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 17:12:54 +1200, mm0fmf wrote: > On 09/02/2018 21:05, codewiz...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 2:48:17 PM UTC-5, Chris Green wrote: >>> codew...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 7:15:16 PM UTC-5, pyotr filipivich wrote: >

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-10 Thread Chris Green
Michael F. Stemper wrote: > On 2018-02-09 13:37, Chris Green wrote: > > > Alternative approach, what I do:- > > > > Run a text mode (but very capable and mouse aware) newsreader on > > my home system, read news locally using that. > > > > Use ssh (is

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-10 Thread mm0fmf
On 09/02/2018 21:05, codewiz...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 2:48:17 PM UTC-5, Chris Green wrote: codew...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 7:15:16 PM UTC-5, pyotr filipivich wrote: [snip] Those of us who do not use google-groups may not notice the

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 09 February 2018 23:44:54 Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Fri, 09 Feb 2018 17:30:57 -0800, codewizard wrote: > > Regardless of what the policies are and how well they're enforced, > > if the mailing list is cut off from GG, I will stop reading it. > > There is *absolutely nothing* we can do

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 09 Feb 2018 17:30:57 -0800, codewizard wrote: > Regardless of what the policies are and how well they're enforced, if > the mailing list is cut off from GG, I will stop reading it. There is *absolutely nothing* we can do about that. Google doesn't listen to us, and the suggestion that

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread codewizard
On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 6:45:18 PM UTC-5, Richard Damon wrote: > On 2/9/18 6:19 PM, codew...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 5:03:45 PM UTC-5, Richard Damon wrote: > >> On 2/9/18 4:12 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > >>> On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 8:05 AM,

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread Richard Damon
On 2/9/18 6:19 PM, codewiz...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 5:03:45 PM UTC-5, Richard Damon wrote: On 2/9/18 4:12 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 8:05 AM, wrote: On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 2:48:17 PM UTC-5, Chris Green wrote:

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread codewizard
On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 5:03:45 PM UTC-5, Richard Damon wrote: > On 2/9/18 4:12 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 8:05 AM, wrote: > >> On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 2:48:17 PM UTC-5, Chris Green wrote: > >>> codew...@gmail.com wrote: > On

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread Richard Damon
On 2/9/18 4:12 PM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 8:05 AM, wrote: On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 2:48:17 PM UTC-5, Chris Green wrote: codew...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 7:15:16 PM UTC-5, pyotr filipivich wrote: [snip]

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 8:05 AM, wrote: > On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 2:48:17 PM UTC-5, Chris Green wrote: >> codew...@gmail.com wrote: >> > On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 7:15:16 PM UTC-5, pyotr filipivich wrote: >> > > [snip] >> > > Those of us who do not use

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread codewizard
On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 2:48:17 PM UTC-5, Chris Green wrote: > codew...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 7:15:16 PM UTC-5, pyotr filipivich wrote: > > > [snip] > > > Those of us who do not use google-groups may not notice the loss > > > of the google groupies. >

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread Chris Green
codewiz...@gmail.com wrote: > On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 7:15:16 PM UTC-5, pyotr filipivich wrote: > > [snip] > > Those of us who do not use google-groups may not notice the loss > > of the google groupies. > > I use GG to read comp.lang.python because of the following combination >

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread codewizard
On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 7:15:16 PM UTC-5, pyotr filipivich wrote: > [snip] > Those of us who do not use google-groups may not notice the loss > of the google groupies. I use GG to read comp.lang.python because of the following combination of factors. I would definitely be happier

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread Tim Golden
On 09/02/2018 15:37, Chris Green wrote: Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Fri, 09 Feb 2018 12:45:29 +, Chris Green wrote: Mark Lawrence wrote: [...] Please don't waste your time with the gmane website. Just point any (semi-)decent

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread Chris Green
Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Fri, 09 Feb 2018 12:45:29 +, Chris Green wrote: > > > Mark Lawrence wrote: > [...] > >> Please don't waste your time with the gmane website. Just point any > >> (semi-)decent mail client like

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread Jim
On 02/09/2018 08:07 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Fri, 09 Feb 2018 12:45:29 +, Chris Green wrote: Mark Lawrence wrote: [...] Please don't waste your time with the gmane website. Just point any (semi-)decent mail client like Thunderbird at news.gmane.org and

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 09 Feb 2018 12:45:29 +, Chris Green wrote: > Mark Lawrence wrote: [...] >> Please don't waste your time with the gmane website. Just point any >> (semi-)decent mail client like Thunderbird at news.gmane.org and you've > > Surely you mean NNTP/Usenet client.

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread Chris Green
Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 09/02/18 11:23, John Ladasky wrote: > > > > I haven't visited GMane in a few years, but I found it difficult to > > navigate. > In particular, I found searching to be cumbersome. Weren't the archives > broken into 30-day blocks? > > > > I

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread Wolfgang Maier
On 02/09/2018 12:23 PM, John Ladasky wrote: On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 12:50:16 AM UTC-8, Tim Golden wrote: Gmane offers a newsgroup interface to the mailing list I haven't visited GMane in a few years, but I found it difficult to navigate. In particular, I found searching to be

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 09/02/18 11:23, John Ladasky wrote: I haven't visited GMane in a few years, but I found it difficult to navigate. In particular, I found searching to be cumbersome. Weren't the archives broken into 30-day blocks? I just tried GMane again two minutes ago. I can't confirm my

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread John Ladasky
On Friday, February 9, 2018 at 12:50:16 AM UTC-8, Tim Golden wrote: [snip and rearrange] > So dropping GG altogether would probably not add very much, as we're > generally blocking undesirable posts from there and we'd rather not > block genuine posts which happen to be made through the

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-09 Thread Tim Golden
On 09/02/2018 05:00, Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Thu, 08 Feb 2018 23:40:57 +, Mark Lawrence wrote: I don't see any spam in my inbox as I read on gmane, I'm pointing out the disgraceful state of gg and why it should be dropped as it's less than useless. Who is it that you think should

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-08 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 08 Feb 2018 23:40:57 +, Mark Lawrence wrote: > I don't see any spam in my inbox as I read on gmane, I'm pointing out > the disgraceful state of gg and why it should be dropped as it's less > than useless. Who is it that you think should "drop" Google Groups? If you mean individual

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-08 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 08/02/18 23:33, Chris Angelico wrote: The PSF doesn't *need* to take on Google, because there are other newsgroup hosting sites that have less spam. Switch to one of those, and voila, less spam in your inbox. ChrisA I don't see any spam in my inbox as I read on gmane, I'm pointing out

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-08 Thread Chris Angelico
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Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-08 Thread mm0fmf
On 08/02/2018 17:36, Gilmeh Serda wrote: On Sat, 03 Feb 2018 04:33:36 +1200, breamoreboy wrote: When trying to access comp.lang.idl-pvwave, a message is now displayed, stating that the group owner needs to remove the spam, and can then apply to Google in order to have access reinstated.

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Gro

2018-02-08 Thread Larry Martell
On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 12:36 PM, Gilmeh Serda wrote: > On Sat, 03 Feb 2018 04:33:36 +1200, breamoreboy wrote: > >>> When trying to access comp.lang.idl-pvwave, a message is now displayed, >> stating that the group owner needs to remove the spam, and can then >>

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Groups

2018-02-04 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sun, 04 Feb 2018 06:49:57 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 6:34 AM, Mark Lawrence > wrote: >> On 03/02/18 17:56, Peter J. Holzer wrote: >>> You seem to confuse the mailing-list and the newsgroup. The >>> mailing-list doesn't have a spam problem, and

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Groups

2018-02-03 Thread alister via Python-list
On Sun, 04 Feb 2018 06:49:57 +1100, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 6:34 AM, Mark Lawrence > wrote: >> On 03/02/18 17:56, Peter J. Holzer wrote: >>> You seem to confuse the mailing-list and the newsgroup. The >>> mailing-list doesn't have a spam problem, and

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Groups

2018-02-03 Thread Chris Angelico
On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 6:34 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 03/02/18 17:56, Peter J. Holzer wrote: >> You seem to confuse the mailing-list and the newsgroup. The mailing-list >> doesn't have a spam problem, and it is already (lightly) moderated. >> >> The newsgroup does have

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Groups

2018-02-03 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 03/02/18 17:56, Peter J. Holzer wrote: On 2018-02-03 04:33:36 -0800, breamore...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 5:01:58 PM UTC, superchromix wrote: Our own programming discussion newsgroup, located at comp.lang.idl-pvwave, started receiving spam messages several months

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Groups

2018-02-03 Thread Peter J. Holzer
On 2018-02-03 04:33:36 -0800, breamore...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 5:01:58 PM UTC, superchromix wrote: > > Our own programming discussion newsgroup, located at > > comp.lang.idl-pvwave, started receiving spam messages several months > > ago. > > > > Two weeks ago,

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Groups

2018-02-03 Thread breamoreboy
On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 5:01:58 PM UTC, superchromix wrote: > Our own programming discussion newsgroup, located at comp.lang.idl-pvwave, > started receiving spam messages several months ago. > > Two weeks ago, access to comp.lang.idl-pvwave was blocked by Google Groups. > > When

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Groups

2018-02-03 Thread pyotr filipivich
breamore...@gmail.com on Sat, 3 Feb 2018 04:33:36 -0800 (PST) typed in comp.lang.python the following: >On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 5:01:58 PM UTC, superchromix wrote: >> Our own programming discussion newsgroup, located at comp.lang.idl-pvwave, >> started receiving spam messages several

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Groups

2018-02-02 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2018-02-02, dieter wrote: > jlada...@itu.edu writes: >> ... >> Let me ask those of you who are not using Google Groups: how do you search? >> In my experience, searching through mailing list archives has been poor. > > I am using "gmane.org" which has quite a good search

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Groups

2018-02-02 Thread Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
i find the mail experience to be really nice and fool proof (except when some really bold spam makes it through) Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer https://abdurrahmaanjanhangeer.wordpress.com On 1 Feb 2018 21:09, "superchromix" wrote: > > Our own programming discussion newsgroup,

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Groups

2018-02-02 Thread Chris Green
jlada...@itu.edu wrote: > On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 9:07:15 AM UTC-8, alister wrote: > > > simple solution stop using google groups & use either the mailing list or > > a news server with an NNTP client > > Sigh. I've been on Usenet since 1986. Is this how it ends? I will move if > I

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Groups

2018-02-02 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 02 Feb 2018 08:24:36 +0100, dieter wrote: > jlada...@itu.edu writes: >> ... >> Let me ask those of you who are not using Google Groups: how do you >> search? In my experience, searching through mailing list archives has >> been poor. > > I am using "gmane.org" which has quite a good

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Groups

2018-02-01 Thread dieter
jlada...@itu.edu writes: > ... > Let me ask those of you who are not using Google Groups: how do you search? > In my experience, searching through mailing list archives has been poor. I am using "gmane.org" which has quite a good search (in my view). Not sure, whether "gmane.org" hosts "your"

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Groups

2018-02-01 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 01Feb2018 15:48, jlada...@itu.edu wrote: On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 9:07:15 AM UTC-8, alister wrote: simple solution stop using google groups & use either the mailing list or a news server with an NNTP client Sigh. I've been on Usenet since 1986. Is this how it

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Groups

2018-02-01 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 01 Feb 2018 15:48:36 -0800, jladasky wrote: > Let me ask those of you who are not using Google Groups: how do you > search? In my experience, searching through mailing list archives has > been poor. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=site%3Amail.python.org+searching+through+mailing+list+archives

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Groups

2018-02-01 Thread jladasky
On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 9:07:15 AM UTC-8, alister wrote: > simple solution stop using google groups & use either the mailing list or > a news server with an NNTP client Sigh. I've been on Usenet since 1986. Is this how it ends? I will move if I must. Let me ask those of you who

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Groups

2018-02-01 Thread Pete Forman
mark...@gmail.com writes: > On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 6:01:58 PM UTC+1, superchromix wrote: >> Our own programming discussion newsgroup, located at >> comp.lang.idl-pvwave, started receiving spam messages several months >> ago. >> >> Two weeks ago, access to comp.lang.idl-pvwave was

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Groups

2018-02-01 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2018-02-01, Jan van den Broek wrote: > On 2018-02-01, superchromix wrote: >> >> Our own programming discussion newsgroup, located at >> comp.lang.idl-pvwave, started receiving spam messages several >> months ago. >> >> Two weeks ago, access to

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Groups

2018-02-01 Thread Jan van den Broek
On 2018-02-01, superchromix wrote: > > Our own programming discussion newsgroup, located at comp.lang.idl-pvwave, >started receiving spam messages several months ago. > > Two weeks ago, access to comp.lang.idl-pvwave was blocked by Google Groups. > > When trying to access

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Groups

2018-02-01 Thread mm0fmf
On 01/02/2018 17:15, Chris Angelico wrote: On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 4:01 AM, superchromix wrote: Our own programming discussion newsgroup, located at comp.lang.idl-pvwave, started receiving spam messages several months ago. Two weeks ago, access to comp.lang.idl-pvwave was

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Groups

2018-02-01 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 4:50 AM, wrote: > On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 6:01:58 PM UTC+1, superchromix wrote: >> Our own programming discussion newsgroup, located at comp.lang.idl-pvwave, >> started receiving spam messages several months ago. >> >> Two weeks ago, access to

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Groups

2018-02-01 Thread markb77
On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 6:01:58 PM UTC+1, superchromix wrote: > Our own programming discussion newsgroup, located at comp.lang.idl-pvwave, > started receiving spam messages several months ago. > > Two weeks ago, access to comp.lang.idl-pvwave was blocked by Google Groups. > > When

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Groups

2018-02-01 Thread markb77
On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 6:22:22 PM UTC+1, Jack Dangler wrote: > On 02/01/2018 12:06 PM, alister via Python-list wrote: > > On Thu, 01 Feb 2018 09:01:35 -0800, superchromix wrote: > > > >> Our own programming discussion newsgroup, located at > >> comp.lang.idl-pvwave, started receiving

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Groups

2018-02-01 Thread Chris Angelico
On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 4:01 AM, superchromix wrote: > > Our own programming discussion newsgroup, located at comp.lang.idl-pvwave, > started receiving spam messages several months ago. > > Two weeks ago, access to comp.lang.idl-pvwave was blocked by Google Groups. > > When

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Groups

2018-02-01 Thread Tim Golden
On 01/02/2018 17:01, superchromix wrote: Our own programming discussion newsgroup, located at comp.lang.idl-pvwave, started receiving spam messages several months ago. Two weeks ago, access to comp.lang.idl-pvwave was blocked by Google Groups. When trying to access comp.lang.idl-pvwave, a

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Groups

2018-02-01 Thread Jack Dangler
On 02/01/2018 12:06 PM, alister via Python-list wrote: On Thu, 01 Feb 2018 09:01:35 -0800, superchromix wrote: Our own programming discussion newsgroup, located at comp.lang.idl-pvwave, started receiving spam messages several months ago. Two weeks ago, access to comp.lang.idl-pvwave was

Re: This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Groups

2018-02-01 Thread alister via Python-list
On Thu, 01 Feb 2018 09:01:35 -0800, superchromix wrote: > Our own programming discussion newsgroup, located at > comp.lang.idl-pvwave, started receiving spam messages several months > ago. > > Two weeks ago, access to comp.lang.idl-pvwave was blocked by Google > Groups. > > When trying to

This newsgroup (comp.lang.python) may soon be blocked by Google Groups

2018-02-01 Thread superchromix
Our own programming discussion newsgroup, located at comp.lang.idl-pvwave, started receiving spam messages several months ago. Two weeks ago, access to comp.lang.idl-pvwave was blocked by Google Groups. When trying to access comp.lang.idl-pvwave, a message is now displayed, stating that the