I highly recommend the talk by Daniel Stone who used to be a core X.org
developer. He explains it quite well how X is used currently, and why
it has problems and why they are considered so hard to fix that Wayland
(and Mir) was created.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIctzAQOe44
One interesting
On 06/30/2014 07:36 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> Hmm. I'm not sure that it's necessarily that bad; I've done 3G-based
> X11 forwarding fairly successfully on occasion. Yes, it's potentially
> quite slow, but it certainly works - I've used SciTE, for instance,
> and I've used some GTK2 apps without p
On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Michael Torrie wrote:
> Only the most primitive X11 apps are at all fast over network
> forwarding. If the app uses any modern toolkit, then it's basically
> just sending a bunch of bitmaps over the wire (changes), which would be
> fine, but X11 involves a lot of
On 06/28/2014 09:16 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> I remember approx. 10 years ago a neighboring dept. at my work effectively
>> killed our 10 MB/s Ethernet segment with such traffic (due to a
>> misconfigured switch/router?). Running an ethernet analyzer showed a single
>> X11 host-server session oc
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"Gisle Vanem" wrote:
> "Chris Angelico" wrote:
>
> > The only other time I've been waiting for X display was when I was
> > mobile, on a 3G connection, and using X11 forwarding on an SSH link
> > back to my home LAN.
>
> Doing X11 calls over a network could really be a nuisance
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Gisle Vanem wrote:
> "Chris Angelico" wrote:
>
>> The only other time I've been waiting for X display was when I was
>> mobile, on a 3G connection, and using X11 forwarding on an SSH link
>> back to my home LAN.
>
>
> Doing X11 calls over a network could really be
"Chris Angelico" wrote:
The only other time I've been waiting for X display was when I was
mobile, on a 3G connection, and using X11 forwarding on an SSH link
back to my home LAN.
Doing X11 calls over a network could really be a nuisance for others. And
an archaic design IMHO.
I remember
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 7:40 AM, CM wrote:
> I'm confused as to why it's not just a .py file.
On Linux, the `nuitka` script would be run. Things in $PATH tend not
to have an extension, and you don’t need one to run Python. (you
can’t import files that don’t end in .py, though)
> The nuitka.bat
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 3:40 PM, CM wrote:
> The nuitka file starts with
>
> #!C:\Python27_32\python.exe
>
> and is a Python script. It says in a docstring,
>
>
> This is the main program of Nuitka, it
> checks the options and then translates
> one or more modules to a C++ source code
> u
> Just add Scripts to path (not Scripts/nuitka),
> and it should run nuitka.bat. I would guess that
> the one without an extension is a Unix shell script
> of some sort; have a look at it, see if it's a text
> file that begins "#!/bin/sh" or similar. Most likely
> the file sizes of nuitka an
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 2:45 PM, CM wrote:
> On Saturday, June 28, 2014 12:23:03 AM UTC-4,
> Stefan Behnel wrote:
>
>> There should be a folder Python27/Scripts that
>> contains the executable programs that Python packages
>> install.
>
> Thank you, yes, it's there. But there are two
> files: nu
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Michael Torrie wrote:
> On 06/27/2014 09:44 PM, CM wrote:
>>> Additionally, in most GUI apps (although not all),
>>> the main bottleneck is usually not the programming
>>> language but the user. GUI apps tend to spend
>>> 95% of their time idling, waiting for the u
On Saturday, June 28, 2014 12:23:03 AM UTC-4,
Stefan Behnel wrote:
> There should be a folder Python27/Scripts that
> contains the executable programs that Python packages
> install.
Thank you, yes, it's there. But there are two
files: nuitka (I don't see an extension and
don't know the file
CM, 28.06.2014 05:57:
>> Now type
>>
>> nuitka --recurse-all something_or_other.py
>>
>> and hit Enter. What happens?
>
> I did that and the message is:
>
>'nuitka' is not recognized as an internal
>or external command, operable program or batch file.
>
> which makes sense becau
On Saturday, June 28, 2014 9:27:02 AM UTC+5:30, CM wrote:
> > I'm not a Windows user, so I can't give detailed
> > step-by-step "mouse over this menu, click this
> > button" instructions, but you need to open a
> > command line terminal. (command.com or cmd.exe,
> I'm not *quite* that at sea!
On 06/27/2014 09:44 PM, CM wrote:
>> Additionally, in most GUI apps (although not all),
>> the main bottleneck is usually not the programming
>> language but the user. GUI apps tend to spend
>> 95% of their time idling, waiting for the user. Its
>> been a *long* time since the GUI framework its
> I'm not a Windows user, so I can't give detailed
> step-by-step "mouse over this menu, click this
> button" instructions, but you need to open a
> command line terminal. (command.com or cmd.exe,
I'm not *quite* that at sea! :D Close, but I am
used to using the command line in Windows.
On Friday, June 27, 2014 11:09:11 PM UTC-4,
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> Having said that, I think that the OP's question
> is probably misguided.
Thanks, Steven, for the input. It very well might be.
I'll give a little more information.
> He or she gives the impression of expecting PyPy
> o
On Saturday, June 28, 2014 8:58:04 AM UTC+5:30, Michael Torrie wrote:
> On 06/27/2014 09:06 PM, CM wrote:
> > On Friday, June 27, 2014 7:44:39 PM UTC-4, Paul Sokolovsky wrote:
> >> Yes, you can. So, please try that, and report
> >> how that went. We're eager to know how that would
> >> go very mu
On 06/27/2014 09:06 PM, CM wrote:
> On Friday, June 27, 2014 7:44:39 PM UTC-4, Paul Sokolovsky wrote:
>> Yes, you can. So, please try that, and report
>> how that went. We're eager to know how that would
>> go very much. But unlike you, we don't have need
>> to transform wxPython GUI application
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 20:06:36 -0700, CM wrote:
> On Friday, June 27, 2014 7:44:39 PM UTC-4, Paul Sokolovsky wrote:
>> Yes, you can. So, please try that, and report how that went. We're
>> eager to know how that would go very much. But unlike you, we don't
>> have need to transform wxPython GUI appl
On Friday, June 27, 2014 7:44:39 PM UTC-4, Paul Sokolovsky wrote:
> Yes, you can. So, please try that, and report
> how that went. We're eager to know how that would
> go very much. But unlike you, we don't have need
> to transform wxPython GUI application in Python into
> an executable. So, you
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 19:10:25 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote:
> If no one speaks up (with hard specific data!) for the technologies you
> are considering (eg PyPy, Nuitka etc) then I would conclude that they
> are not yet ready for prime-time/ your use-case
A silly conclusion. The OP's use-case is quite
On Saturday, June 28, 2014 5:14:39 AM UTC+5:30, Paul Sokolovsky wrote:
> Hello,
> On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 16:25:02 -0700 (PDT)
> CM wrote:
> > (Trying again, simpler and cleaner post)
> > Can I use Nuitka to transform a wxPython
> > GUI application in Python that uses several
> > 3rd party modules i
Hello,
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 16:25:02 -0700 (PDT)
CM wrote:
> (Trying again, simpler and cleaner post)
>
> Can I use Nuitka to transform a wxPython
> GUI application in Python that uses several
> 3rd party modules into a small and faster
> compiled-to-C executable?
Yes, you can. So, please try
(Trying again, simpler and cleaner post)
Can I use Nuitka to transform a wxPython
GUI application in Python that uses several
3rd party modules into a small and faster
compiled-to-C executable?
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