[issue39137] create_unicode_buffer() gives different results on Windows vs Linux

2019-12-26 Thread Christoph Reiter
eate_unicode_buffer() gives different results on Windows vs Linux versions: Python 3.8 ___ Python tracker <https://bugs.python.org/issue39137> ___ ___ Python-bugs-list mailing

Re: Import, site packages, my modules, Windows vs. Linux

2008-06-07 Thread rzed
John Ladasky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] com: Hi folks, Running Python 2.5 on both a Windows XP laptop, and an Ubuntu Linux 7.04 desktop. I've gotten tired of maintaining multiple copies of my personal modules that I use over and over. I have copies of these files

Re: Import, site packages, my modules, Windows vs. Linux

2008-06-04 Thread John Ladasky
On Jun 3, 6:52 pm, Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Ladasky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I want to know what is the *recommended* way to integrate my own personal modules with Python. Thanks! You want the 'distutils' documentation URL:http://www.python.org/doc/lib/module-distutils

Re: Import, site packages, my modules, Windows vs. Linux

2008-06-04 Thread Tobiah
On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 17:57:07 -0700, John Ladasky wrote: Hi folks, Running Python 2.5 on both a Windows XP laptop, and an Ubuntu Linux 7.04 desktop. I've gotten tired of maintaining multiple copies of my personal modules that I use over and over. I have copies of these files in the same

Re: Import, site packages, my modules, Windows vs. Linux

2008-06-04 Thread Terry Reedy
John Ladasky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | On Windows I found a solution that works, but which may be a kludge. | In the Python site-packages folder, I added a sub-folder called my- | packages. Then I created a text file, my-packages.pth, containing | the single

Import, site packages, my modules, Windows vs. Linux

2008-06-03 Thread John Ladasky
Hi folks, Running Python 2.5 on both a Windows XP laptop, and an Ubuntu Linux 7.04 desktop. I've gotten tired of maintaining multiple copies of my personal modules that I use over and over. I have copies of these files in the same directory as the main program I happen to be working on at the

Re: Import, site packages, my modules, Windows vs. Linux

2008-06-03 Thread Ben Finney
John Ladasky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I want to know what is the *recommended* way to integrate my own personal modules with Python. Thanks! You want the 'distutils' documentation URL:http://www.python.org/doc/lib/module-distutils and the documents that it references, which will lead you to

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-08 Thread siggy2
Duncan Booth wrote: [CUT] C:\cd /Documents and settings The system cannot find the path specified. C:\cd /DDocuments and settings C:\Documents and Settings that's because the cd /D is interpreted as change drive and directory so I imagine it enables some kind of command extension but

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-06 Thread baalbek
Andy Dingley wrote: Python and Ubuntu rock...go fot it. That's nice. I've just burned myself a new Ubuntu f*ck-a-duck release CD Now, just out of curiosity, what's f*ck-a-duck? Baalbek -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-04 Thread Bryan Olson
Christopher Weimann wrote: On 08/02/2006-08:06AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a WinXP command prompt: C:\ C:\cd /windows/system32 C:\WINDOWS\system32 This doesn't work the way you think it does. C:\cd /windows C:\WINDOWScd /system32 C:\WINDOWS\system32

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-04 Thread Gerhard Fiedler
On 2006-08-03 04:53:11, Sybren Stuvel wrote: Pretty much every production cost increase gets in the end paid by the consumer. With some localized changes, you may be lucky and don't buy any products that are affected, but with such a widespread change as this would be, it is more likely that

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-04 Thread Duncan Booth
Bryan Olson wrote: Duncan Booth wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a WinXP command prompt: C:\ C:\cd /windows/system32 C:\WINDOWS\system32 Not from my Windows XP command prompt it doesn't. Do you have anything strange installed on your system? Tons of strange

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-04 Thread Bryan Olson
Duncan Booth wrote: Bryan Olson wrote: Duncan Booth wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a WinXP command prompt: C:\ C:\cd /windows/system32 C:\WINDOWS\system32 Not from my Windows XP command prompt it doesn't. Do you have anything strange installed on your system?

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-04 Thread Duncan Booth
Bryan Olson wrote: Not quite. The first slash is ambiguous and apparently ignored, but latter slashes are taken as a path separators. I'm not sure ambiguity enters into it. I think perhaps the bad detection of the option happens because the CD command can ignore spaces in its argument. Since

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-04 Thread Bryan Olson
Duncan Booth wrote: Bryan Olson wrote: Not quite. The first slash is ambiguous and apparently ignored, but latter slashes are taken as a path separators. I'm not sure ambiguity enters into it. I think perhaps the bad detection of the option happens because the CD command can ignore

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-04 Thread andrew clarke
On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 05:31:01PM +0200, Sybren Stuvel wrote: James Stroud enlightened us with: its better to use: os.path.join('my', 'favorite', 'dir') than \\.join(['my', 'favorite', 'dir']) because the latter will bonk on linux. Ehm... replace that with the latter

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-04 Thread Duncan Booth
Bryan Olson wrote: Duncan Booth wrote: I'm not sure ambiguity enters into it. I think perhaps the bad detection of the option happens because the CD command can ignore spaces in its argument. Since it is ignoring spaces they don't actually require a space after the option strings. You

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-04 Thread Gerhard Fiedler
On 2006-08-04 05:30:00, Sybren Stuvel wrote: Besides, you probably don't know whether it's not one of your direct suppliers who's affected. You're sure you don't buy from anybody running a Windows system? I'd bet against that, and I only bet when I know I win :) Good point. I don't buy

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-04 Thread andrew clarke
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 02:01:58PM +0200, Sybren Stuvel wrote: OS/2 (and eComStation) also uses the backslash as the path separator. You mean OS/2 is still in actual use? 'fraid so. :-) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-04 Thread Gerhard Fiedler
On 2006-08-04 09:58:34, Sybren Stuvel wrote: They all (well, most of them) use computers in their administration; /that's/ the cost I was talking about, not the cost for the software industry :) Good point. Time more people started using Open Source :) Definitely. But don't hold your

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-04 Thread Jorgen Grahn
On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 14:47:59 -0300, Gerhard Fiedler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2006-08-01 12:31:01, Sybren Stuvel wrote: ... Is that really true? From what I know, it's more like this: - Unix-type systems: '/' - Windows-type systems: '\' - Mac OS: ':' - OpenVMS: '.' - ... Maybe someone

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-04 Thread Bryan Olson
Duncan Booth wrote: Bryan Olson wrote: Duncan Booth wrote: Any other Microsoft commands I try all complain about 'invalid switch'. The first I noticed were their build tools. Their version of make, called nmake, and their visual studio tools will accept either forward or backward

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-03 Thread Bryan Olson
Duncan Booth wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a WinXP command prompt: C:\ C:\cd /windows/system32 C:\WINDOWS\system32 Not from my Windows XP command prompt it doesn't. Do you have anything strange installed on your system? Tons of strange stuff, yes, but I just tried

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-02 Thread Gerhard Fiedler
On 2006-08-02 04:42:31, Sybren Stuvel wrote: I never said I would have known it better. I just said that IMO it was a bad design choice ;-) Well, and I question your qualification to judge that. In order to say that, you would have to know the reasoning, would have to put it in the

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-02 Thread John Salerno
Gerhard Fiedler wrote: A design choice is not necessarily a bad choice just because it turns out that some 30 years later there is a similar common product whose creators made a different choice, and now programmers have to cater to both. To be fair, this isn't the reason he gave for it

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-02 Thread Richard Brodie
Gerhard Fiedler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] With the same reasoning one could say that the Unix creators should have used the VMS (or any other existing) form. Only if they used Guido's time machine. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-02 Thread bryanjugglercryptographer
sure the folks at mickeysoft are smart enough to change from \ to /. They dis-allow '/' in filenames, and many Microsoft products now respect '/' as an alternate to '\'. From a WinXP command prompt: C:\ C:\cd /windows/system32 C:\WINDOWS\system32 For a Windows vs. Linux thread

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-02 Thread Duncan Booth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a WinXP command prompt: C:\ C:\cd /windows/system32 C:\WINDOWS\system32 Not from my Windows XP command prompt it doesn't. Do you have anything strange installed on your system? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

RE: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-02 Thread Tim Golden
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | From a WinXP command prompt: | | C:\ | C:\cd /windows/system32 | | C:\WINDOWS\system32 | | | Not from my Windows XP command prompt it doesn't. Do you have | anything | strange installed on your system? FWIW: dump Microsoft Windows XP

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-02 Thread Alex Martelli
Gerhard Fiedler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... a few fine points of computing history...: (URLs probably use the slash because the internet protocols have been developed largely on Unix-type systems for use with Unix-type systems?) It wasn't designed specifically for Unix-type systems,

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-02 Thread Alex Martelli
jean-michel bain-cornu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andy Dingley a écrit : I'd never recommend dual-boot for anything! Don't agree man, it's good for testing... It's bothersome for testing: virtualization is much handier in most cases. Alex --

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-02 Thread Tim Chase
| Not from my Windows XP command prompt it doesn't. Do you have | anything | strange installed on your system? FWIW: dump Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. c:\tempcd \ C:\cd /windows/System32 C:\windows\system32 /dump dump

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-02 Thread John Salerno
Sybren Stuvel wrote: Apple moved from \r to \n as EOL character. Interesting. I didn't know that. Although it does seem to make sense to use both \r\n as EOL (if you still consider one as a carriage return and one as a newline, a la old school typewriters), \n is much nicer and cleaner

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-02 Thread Gerhard Fiedler
On 2006-08-02 11:29:18, Sybren Stuvel wrote: John Salerno enlightened us with: But of course I still agree with you that in either case it's not a judgment you can fairly make 30 years after the fact. I don't see Microsoft changing it the next 30 years either... Apple moved from \r to \n

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-02 Thread Gerhard Fiedler
On 2006-08-02 13:24:10, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: Change Directory may work... but C:\Documents and Settings\Dennis Lee Biebercd c:\ C:\cd /windows/system32 C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32cd c:\ C:\dir /windows/system32 Parameter format not correct - windows. Since '/' is used as standard

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-02 Thread Gerhard Fiedler
On 2006-08-02 12:41:44, Alex Martelli wrote: Microsoft did *NOT* write DOS Well, they didn't write most of DOS 1.0. But it seems they did write (or at least specify) most if not all of the rest up to DOS 6.22 or so. Which is possibly considerable. Part of the CP/M compatibility did include

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-02 Thread Duncan Booth
Tim Chase wrote: Nice to see consistancy at work. Looks like leading slashes are stripped and so it trys to find it relative to the current path. Nothing like predictable, cross-platform implementations there. [rolls eyes] Thank goodness Python brings some brains to the table where

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-02 Thread Gerhard Fiedler
On 2006-08-02 17:38:54, Sybren Stuvel wrote: Gerhard Fiedler enlightened us with: Microsoft did *NOT* write DOS Well, they didn't write most of DOS 1.0. But it seems they did write (or at least specify) most if not all of the rest up to DOS 6.22 or so. Which is possibly considerable.

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-02 Thread Christopher Weimann
On 08/02/2006-08:06AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a WinXP command prompt: C:\ C:\cd /windows/system32 C:\WINDOWS\system32 This doesn't work the way you think it does. C:\cd /windows C:\WINDOWScd /system32 C:\WINDOWS\system32 C:\WINDOWS\system32cd /windows The

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-02 Thread Gerhard Fiedler
On 2006-08-02 17:36:06, Sybren Stuvel wrote: IMO it's too bad that they chose \r\n as the standard. Having two bytes as the end of line marker makes sense on typewriters and similarly operating printing equipment. I may well be mistaken, but I think at the time they set that standard, such

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-02 Thread Alex Martelli
Gerhard Fiedler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Part of the CP/M compatibility did include the use of / as flag-indicator (the use of \r+\n as line ending also comes from CP/M -- in turn, CP/M had aped these traits from some DEC minicomputer operating systems). At the time, probably

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-02 Thread Gerhard Fiedler
On 2006-08-02 21:09:43, Sybren Stuvel wrote: Microsoft could provide an emulated environment for backward compatability, just like Apple did. Wouldn't know what that would cost, though. Possibly. Rather than waiting for that, I think that languages that want a degree of portability should

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-02 Thread Alex Martelli
Sybren Stuvel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gerhard Fiedler enlightened us with: I don't know how many reasons you need besides backward compatibility, but all the DOS (still around!) and Windows apps that would break... ?!? I think breaking that compatibility would be more expensive than

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-01 Thread Andy Dingley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Python and Ubuntu rock...go fot it. That's nice. I've just burned myself a new Ubuntu f*ck-a-duck release CD intending to rebuild a flakey old Deadrat box with it. Once it's done I'd like to be running Python with some USB to Dallas one-wire hardware on it, re-plugged

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-01 Thread OMouse
That is important, but apparently Windows (at least XP) will work fine with the forward slash that Linux uses. I just tried it in the command prompt and it works. I'm sure other platforms use the forward slash separator as well. You've just covered three major platforms (Mac OS X, WinXP and Linux)

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-01 Thread Edmond Dantes
Dan wrote: But taken out of that context, I'll challenge it.  I was first exposed to Python about five or six years ago--my boss asked me to consider it. What I found was that the current version of Python was V2.2, but newest version (that I could find) that ran on VMS was V1.4.  I decided

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-01 Thread Gerhard Fiedler
On 2006-08-01 12:31:01, Sybren Stuvel wrote: Ehm... replace that with the latter with bonk on every OS except Microsoft Windows. Windows is the weird one in OS-land, because they are the only one that use the most widely used escape-character (the backslash) as path separator. Is that really

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-01 Thread Gerhard Fiedler
On 2006-08-01 16:29:54, Sybren Stuvel wrote: - Mac OS: ':' It's a slash too, at least on non-obsolete Mac OS versions. I wrote Mac OS. That's not Mac OSX. Ask Apple... :) And Mac OSX is quite arguably a Unix-type system. Maybe someone else can fill in some of the missing OSes. It doesn't

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-08-01 Thread Dan
Edmond Dantes wrote: Dan wrote: But taken out of that context, I'll challenge it. I was first exposed to Python about five or six years ago--my boss asked me to consider it. What I found was that the current version of Python was V2.2, but newest version (that I could find) that ran on VMS

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-07-31 Thread 3KWA
I am not a programming expert but I use python everyday on Windows XP: * python standard distribution (CPython) * iPython * cygwin for the command line interaction, add a unix/linux flavour to the blend EuGeNe -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-07-31 Thread jean-michel bain-cornu
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Is Windows an okay enviornment in which to program under Python, or do you recommend that I run a dual-boot of Linux or maybe a VMWare install to program under Python? I'm used to practice windows linux and it makes sense to use python on both because the

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-07-31 Thread Andy Dingley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is Windows an okay enviornment in which to program under Python, or do you recommend that I run a dual-boot of Linux or maybe a VMWare install to program under Python? Python is one of the best languages I've found for platform-independence - significantly better

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-07-31 Thread jean-michel bain-cornu
Andy Dingley a écrit : I'd never recommend dual-boot for anything! Don't agree man, it's good for testing... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-07-31 Thread metaperl
Andy Dingley wrote: Python is one of the best languages I've found for platform-independence - significantly better than Perl. The reason I'm going with vmware is because I'm afraid that I will need to compile a C portiion of a Python module and that will not be a pretty picture under

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-07-31 Thread William Witteman
On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 04:30:50AM -0700, Andy Dingley wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is Windows an okay enviornment in which to program under Python, or do you recommend that I run a dual-boot of Linux or maybe a VMWare install to program under Python? Python is one of the best languages

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-07-31 Thread Duncan Booth
metaperl wrote: The reason I'm going with vmware is because I'm afraid that I will need to compile a C portiion of a Python module and that will not be a pretty picture under Windows... true or false? Provided you have the correct compilers installed it is no harder compiling C extensions

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-07-31 Thread James Stroud
jean-michel bain-cornu wrote: Take care to use os.sep This is an important point. You should read up on the os.path module to make sure you are doing things in a platform independent way, for example, its better to use: os.path.join('my', 'favorite', 'dir') than \\.join(['my',

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-07-31 Thread diffuser78
Linux can let you do more in Python and this comes from my personal exprience. Ubuntu Dapper should let you install drivers easily for wireless...a little bit tweaking might be required but its worth the effort. Python and Ubuntu rock...go fot it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, once-upon-a-time

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-07-31 Thread diffuser78
I'd never recommend dual-boot for anything! Hardware is cheap, time and trouble is expensive. Dual-booting if so easy and helpful, I have always found it to be extremely useful. You might have a bad experience but I have my laptop and desktop both running dual boot successfully for 4 and a

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-07-31 Thread Dan
Andy Dingley wrote: [snip] Python is one of the best languages I've found for platform-independence - significantly better than Perl. [big snip] This statement was given in the context of Windows and Linux, and I've precious little experience doing anything on Windows. So I won't challenge

Windows vs. Linux

2006-07-30 Thread noahmd
Okay, once-upon-a-time I tried to start programming by learning C. At the time I was younger and didn't really understand all that C had to offer. I eventually moved over to Microsoft's Visual Basic. It was nice to be able to design a visual application with no effort (too bad I didn't really

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-07-30 Thread Aahz
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Long story short, I want to get back into programming, and Python looks like a good choice for me to start with, and maybe become advanced with. Right now I run Windows as my main operating system. On my old laptop I ran Ubuntu, and liked

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-07-30 Thread Damjan
Right now I run Windows as my main operating system. On my old laptop I ran Ubuntu, and liked it very much; however, my new laptop has a Broadcom wireless card, and it's not very Linux friendly. of topic: that Broadcom wireless card has a driver included in the latest kernel 2.6.17, and

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-07-30 Thread William Witteman
On Sun, Jul 30, 2006 at 04:21:34PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip / offer. I eventually moved over to Microsoft's Visual Basic. It was snip / I'm very sorry. Long story short, I want to get back into programming, and Python looks like a good choice for me to start with, and maybe become

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-07-30 Thread OMouse
Python should port nicely between Windows and Linux so there should be no need to dual-boot. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, once-upon-a-time I tried to start programming by learning C. At the time I was younger and didn't really understand all that C had to offer. I eventually moved over to

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-07-30 Thread James Stroud
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, once-upon-a-time I tried to start programming by learning C. At the time I was younger and didn't really understand all that C had to offer. I eventually moved over to Microsoft's Visual Basic. It was nice to be able to design a visual application with no

Re: Windows vs. Linux

2006-07-30 Thread BartlebyScrivener
Windows XP is fine. I am learning Python on Windows first with an eye toward moving to Linux. If you like, get the ActivePython distribution, which comes with the Win32 extensions. If you start liking Python, consider adding the IPython shell. There are commandline tweaks you can do to make the

Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread Tim Golden
[Sybren Stuvel] Tim Golden enlightened us with: Well, I'm with you. I'm sure a lot of people will chime in to point out just how flexible and useful and productive Linux is as a workstation, but every time I try to use it -- and I make an honest effort -- I end up back in Windows I'm

Re: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tim Golden wrote: As it happens, (and I suspect I'll have to don my flameproof suit here), I prefer the Windows command line to bash/readline for day-to-day use, including in Python. Why? Because it does what I can't for the life of me get readline to do: you can type the first few letters of

Re: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread darren kirby
quoth the Tim Golden: As it happens, (and I suspect I'll have to don my flameproof suit here), I prefer the Windows command line to bash/readline for day-to-day use, including in Python. Why? Because it does what I can't for the life of me get readline to do: you can type the first few letters

Re: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread Sybren Stuvel
Tim Golden enlightened us with: Not quite fair. Not only would I avoid saying something with a redundant apostrophe ;) but the Windows user interface, at least for my purposes, didn't change such a huge amount between Win9x and Win2K, Hence my reference to windows 3.1. It's obvious that

OT: Re: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread Jeremy Jones
Tim Golden wrote: snip As it happens, (and I suspect I'll have to don my flameproof suit here), I prefer the Windows command line to bash/readline for day-to-day use, including in Python. Why? Because it does what I can't for the life of me get readline to do: you can type the first few letters

RE: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread Tim Golden
Tim Golden wrote: As it happens, (and I suspect I'll have to don my flameproof suit here), I prefer the Windows command line to bash/readline for day-to-day use, including in Python. Why? Because it does what I can't for the life of me get readline to do: you can type the first few letters of

Re: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
oops, stand corrected. As I don't use the feature more than ctrl-r and up/down arrow. Tim Golden wrote: Thanks to both of you. But that much I already knew. It's not that I have *no* knowledge about readline: I did at least read the manuals when I got stuck! But as far as I can tell from my

Re: Windows vs Linux

2005-10-26 Thread Thomas Heller
Tim Golden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] But command line in Windows is in no way in the same league as *nix shell. Use tab for command completion and up/down arrow or ctrl-R to search for history. [darren kirby] Try ctrl-r in bash, then type your first few letters...

RE: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread Tim Golden
[Sybren Stuvel] [Tim Golden] It's obvious that everyone has a different way of working, and that I'm more comfortable in Windows because all sorts of small familiarities So what I read in your post is that you simply don't want to leave your familiar environment. Fair enough. Well yes.

Re: Windows vs Linux

2005-10-26 Thread Bernhard Herzog
Tim Golden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But as far as I can tell from my experience and from the docs -- and I'm not near a Linux box at the mo -- having used ctrl-r to recall line x in the history, you can't just down-arrow to recall x+1, x+2 etc. Or can you? You can. It works fine on

Re: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread Sybren Stuvel
Tim Golden enlightened us with: But as far as I can tell from my experience and from the docs -- and I'm not near a Linux box at the mo -- having used ctrl-r to recall line x in the history, you can't just down-arrow to recall x+1, x+2 etc. Or can you? With bash as well as the Python

RE: Windows vs Linux

2005-10-26 Thread Tim Golden
Tim Golden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But as far as I can tell from my experience and from the docs -- and I'm not near a Linux box at the mo -- having used ctrl-r to recall line x in the history, you can't just down-arrow to recall x+1, x+2 etc. Or can you? [Bernhard Herzog] You can.

RE: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread Tim Golden
Tim Golden enlightened us with: But as far as I can tell from my experience and from the docs -- and I'm not near a Linux box at the mo -- having used ctrl-r to recall line x in the history, you can't just down-arrow to recall x+1, x+2 etc. Or can you? [Sybren] With bash as well as the

Re: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread Giovanni Dall'Olio
Tim Golden ha scritto: As it happens, (and I suspect I'll have to don my flameproof suit here), I prefer the Windows command line to bash/readline for day-to-day use, including in Python. Why? Because it does what I can't for the life of me get readline to do: you can type the first few

Re: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread Sybren Stuvel
Tim Golden enlightened us with: Well yes. I think the (only slightly) wider point I was making was that -- despite goodwill and several attempts on my part -- Linux still has not overpowered me with its usefulness. I have yet to see any OS that overpowers me with its usefulness. Extending

RE: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread Tim Golden
[Tim Golden] Just occasionally you read posts from people who say (synthesised) The Windows command line is rubbish, [Sybren Stuvel] It is. Let me give an example. I have the following files: [.. snip example of finding .somefile when you type somtab ..] Well, fair enough. Although I don't

Re: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread Thomas Heller
Tim Golden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [Sybren Stuvel] You can't resize it horizontally Well, peculiarly, you can do this (as you're probably aware) from the Properties menu and it'll work immediately, albeit without advising the running programs that it's resized, so only new lines will

RE: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread Tim Golden
[Giovanni Dall'Olio] Tim Golden ha scritto: [... bash vs Win command-line ...] Argh!! ;) How about reading a simple tutorial on bash? [... snip signs of aggravation over my ignorance ...] I am quite well aware of all of the ways you mention of recalling history etc. etc. When I've tried

RE: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread skip
Tim I am quite well aware of all of the ways you mention of recalling Tim history etc. etc. When I've tried using them, they all seem Tim tiresomely cumbersome ... That's not at all surprising (at least not to me). An important point to realize is that readline's command recall is

Re: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread Diez B. Roggisch
Thanks to both of you. But that much I already knew. It's not that I have *no* knowledge about readline: I did at least read the manuals when I got stuck! But as far as I can tell from my experience and from the docs -- and I'm not near a Linux box at the mo -- having used ctrl-r to recall

Re: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread Tim G
Thomas Heller wrote: FYI, if you don't know this already: You also can resize the console without going through the properties menu with 'mode con cols=... lines=...'. Good grief! I haven't used mode con in years; forgotten it even existed! Thanks for bringing that back, Thomas. TJG --

Re: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread Sybren Stuvel
Tim Golden enlightened us with: Well, fair enough. Although I don't think that on its own this constitutes rubbish. True - it's just one of the reasons that shift its status toward rubishness ;-) Not quite sure what this means. As in ANSI support? (Perfectly true - definitely lacking there).

Re: Windows vs Linux

2005-10-26 Thread Tim G
Bernhard Herzog wrote: Tim Golden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But as far as I can tell from my experience and from the docs -- and I'm not near a Linux box at the mo -- having used ctrl-r to recall line x in the history, you can't just down-arrow to recall x+1, x+2 etc. Or can you?

Re: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread James Stroud
On Wednesday 26 October 2005 07:20, Tim Golden wrote: I'm sure you're right: given moderately naive users, a Windows box is *extremely* likely to be zombified. It's just that it doesn't have to be that way with the proper care and attention. With $200 dollars of antivirus software (on top of

Re: Windows vs Linux

2005-10-26 Thread Sybren Stuvel
Tim G enlightened us with: Sadly, this seems not to be the case on my Ubuntu Breezy: bash 3.00.16, libreadline 4.3/5.0 (not sure which one bash is using). ctrl-r is fine; but you can't down-arrow from there; it just beeps at you. Is there some setting I'm missing? See my other post in this

Re: Windows vs Linux [was: p2exe using wine/cxoffice]

2005-10-26 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson
On 2005-10-26, Tim Golden wrote: [Sybren Stuvel] Tim Golden enlightened us with: Well, I'm with you. I'm sure a lot of people will chime in to point out just how flexible and useful and productive Linux is as a workstation, but every time I try to use it -- and I make an honest effort

Processes/pipes cross platform issue - popen*() hangs using rsh/rlogin (not working in Windows vs. Linux)

2004-12-03 Thread David H
Background. I'm running on WinXP w/ MS Services for Unix installed (to give rsh/rlogin ability), both Python 2.3 and 2.4 version. In linux, I'm running RHEE with python2.3 version. The code below works fine for me in linux, but in WinXP the popen*() command hangs. More specifically, I get an