Re: SPE [was: Wingide is a beautiful application]

2006-01-16 Thread SPE - Stani's Python Editor
Sybren Stuvel wrote: It runs now, but some things aren't working. Besides the crashing down, what else? I am very curious. When I open a file and click on the browse tab, I see the current directory. If I then double-click on a Python file, I'd expect SPE to open it, but nothing happens.

Re: SPE [was: Wingide is a beautiful application]

2006-01-15 Thread Sybren Stuvel
SPE - Stani's Python Editor enlightened us with: This is a misinterpretation, SPE failed because of something else. (As would have become clear if you would have run SPE in the debugging mode 'python SPE.py --debug'.) IMO displayed messages should be clear without having to resort to a

Re: SPE [was: Wingide is a beautiful application]

2006-01-15 Thread SPE - Stani's Python Editor
Sybren Stuvel wrote: IMO displayed messages should be clear without having to resort to a debugging mode. I can agree on that. Debugging mode should only be for removing bugs, not for enlightenment of the user. Unless he doesn't follow the installation instructions. Anyway, apt-getting spe

Re: SPE [was: Wingide is a beautiful application]

2006-01-15 Thread Sybren Stuvel
SPE - Stani's Python Editor enlightened us with: If you would have read the blog (http://pythonide.stani.be/blog), you could clearly read this: I haven't. 2. download and unpack the archive SPE-0.8.1.d-wx2.6.1.0-no_setup.zip If you follow these three steps nothing more, nothing less,

Re: Wingide is a beautiful application

2006-01-14 Thread SPE - Stani's Python Editor
Sybren Stuvel schreef: Sybren Stuvel enlightened us with: SPE is already annoying because of all the new windows it opens... Not a good start. If you mean terminal windows, that has gone with the latest release 0.8.1.d, see http://pythonide.stani.be/blog I remember using it before, to

Re: Wingide is a beautiful application

2006-01-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tony Nelson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My goal is to make my conf files into a decent drop-in so you just put them in your .vim directory and go, and post them next week. OK, thank you. FYI, I am still working on this but some changes in vim 7 are requiring more

Re: Wingide is a beautiful application

2006-01-05 Thread Tony Nelson
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tony Nelson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My goal is to make my conf files into a decent drop-in so you just put them in your .vim directory and go, and post them next week. OK, thank

Re: Wingide is a beautiful application

2005-12-22 Thread Tony Nelson
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tony Nelson wrote: So, you bind check_current_block() to the Enter key? Yeah. The binding's not quite just C-Ocheck_current_block()CR because you need a bit of magic to keep autoindent working. I'll post it with

Re: Wingide is a beautiful application

2005-12-22 Thread jussij
I don't like, that one of the latest UltraEdit releases was buggy causing 100%CPU load and 2MByte of harddisk data traffic beeing idle, so I am looking for an alternative for years, but instead of finding it I was forced lately to spend money again on renewing my license. Have you tried the

Re: Wingide is a beautiful application

2005-12-22 Thread jussij
The best not free overall text editing tool on Windows is UltraEdit As I mentioned before, you should give Zeus a test drive. Many Zeus users think it is the best programming tool for the Windows platform: http://www.zeusedit.com/awards.html Jussi Jumppanen Author: Zeus for Windows --

Re: Wingide is a beautiful application

2005-12-22 Thread Claudio Grondi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't like, that one of the latest UltraEdit releases was buggy causing 100%CPU load and 2MByte of harddisk data traffic beeing idle, so I am looking for an alternative for years, but instead of finding it I was forced lately to spend money again on renewing my license.

Re: Wingide is a beautiful application

2005-12-22 Thread jussij
I gave Zeus a try and it passed loading of a large (100 MByte) text file (many other text editors fail here). Zeus is not designed as a large file editor :( It will try to load the entire file into memory so when you open these very large files the RAM is quickly used up. It looks at the

Re: Wingide is a beautiful application

2005-12-21 Thread Tony Nelson
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tony Nelson wrote: 1. Python syntax checking: as I'm typing along, if I input a syntax error then the line is immediately highlighted in red. What do you use to do this? Cream doesn't seem to do this oob.

Re: Wingide is a beautiful application

2005-12-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tony Nelson wrote: OK, I can tell that this is Python code, not VI script stuff. I'll need to see how your vimrc sets this up. vim has a Python interpreter embedded in it (assuming it's a reasonably complete build--it's possible to leave the interpreter, or even parts of the vim scripting

Re: Wingide is a beautiful application

2005-12-21 Thread Tony Nelson
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tony Nelson wrote: OK, I can tell that this is Python code, not VI script stuff. I'll need to see how your vimrc sets this up. vim has a Python interpreter embedded in it (assuming it's a reasonably complete

Re: Wingide is a beautiful application

2005-12-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tony Nelson wrote: So, you bind check_current_block() to the Enter key? Yeah. The binding's not quite just C-Ocheck_current_block()CR because you need a bit of magic to keep autoindent working. I'll post it with my conf files next week, essentially use C-R= with an empty vim function wrapper

Re: Wingide is a beautiful application

2005-12-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tony Nelson wrote: 1. Python syntax checking: as I'm typing along, if I input a syntax error then the line is immediately highlighted in red. What do you use to do this? Cream doesn't seem to do this oob. Nope. I'll try to package up my vimrc and get it uploaded somewhere next week (busy

Re: Wingide is a beautiful application

2005-12-19 Thread Claudio Grondi
BartlebyScrivener wrote: If you're on Windows XP why not try Xemacs? That's free and does syntax highlighting etc. Doesn't have a problem with large files and so on. rpd Installed: http://ftp.dk.xemacs.org/pub/emacs/xemacs/binaries/win32/InnoSetup/XEmacs%20Setup%2021.4.18-1.exe Requesting

Re: Wingide is a beautiful application

2005-12-19 Thread BartlebyScrivener
Go to Options. Near the bottom, it will say Edit Init.File Click on it. Make an entry on a separate line near the top as follows (require 'python-mode) Then save the init file. When you open files with a .py extension xemacs should automatically go into python mode If you read the init.el

Re: Wingide is a beautiful application

2005-12-19 Thread Claudio Grondi
BartlebyScrivener wrote: Go to Options. Near the bottom, it will say Edit Init.File Click on it. Done. A completely new file was created. Make an entry on a separate line near the top as follows (require 'python-mode) Then save the init file. Have copy/pasted to it including braces

Re: Wingide is a beautiful application

2005-12-19 Thread Tony Nelson
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I get the feeling that a ot of people working with heavy IDEs don't realize how capable vim/emacs are, so I'll give a brief rundown of what my Vim environment does for me. (I do Python web development)--if you

Re: Wingide is a beautiful application

2005-12-18 Thread vinjvinj
I have the debug and the python shell just below the editor and the project and the source assistent on the right pane. You don't have to swtich tabs when you search or go to the python shell this way. The source assistant tab is always visible. Since I did not configure it in any special way, I

Re: Wingide is a beautiful application

2005-12-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Claudio Grondi wrote: The only thing what makes a difference to me is, that Wing 'understands' Python code what results in features not available elsewhere (e.g. go to definition). This is something that pretty much any reasonable programming editor will get you. Vim and emacs both do it. I

Re: Wingide is a beautiful application

2005-12-18 Thread Claudio Grondi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Claudio Grondi wrote: The only thing what makes a difference to me is, that Wing 'understands' Python code what results in features not available elsewhere (e.g. go to definition). This is something that pretty much any reasonable programming editor will get you.

Re: Wingide is a beautiful application

2005-12-18 Thread malv
Good idea. Try several. I did. Many of the above don't have either no gui designer or a rather poor one. eric is by far the best! http://www.die-offenbachs.de/detlev/eric3.html malv -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Wingide is a beautiful application

2005-12-18 Thread gene tani
Claudio Grondi wrote: Apparently Vim syntax highlighting analyses only the code it has already 'seen' within the editing window. This is not what I expect from a mature editor. I have stopped here, because I found this problem after three seconds of using it, so imagine how much other

Re: Wingide is a beautiful application

2005-12-18 Thread Sybren Stuvel
Claudio Grondi enlightened us with: With [Strg]-[End] I went to the end of the file where I wanted to continue editing, but the syntax highlighting told me there is no code but only a comment. I checked it and found out, that Vim is apparently not able to do proper highlighting when jumping to

Re: Wingide is a beautiful application

2005-12-18 Thread Claudio Grondi
Sybren Stuvel wrote: Claudio Grondi enlightened us with: With [Strg]-[End] I went to the end of the file where I wanted to continue editing, but the syntax highlighting told me there is no code but only a comment. I checked it and found out, that Vim is apparently not able to do proper

Re: Wingide is a beautiful application

2005-12-18 Thread Sybren Stuvel
Claudio Grondi enlightened us with: The file I was editing was just 22 KByte large having 450 lines, so you try here to explain to me, that for speed reasons Vim has to cut it into pieces? Yep. Stani SPE based on Scintilla does it right, UltraEdit does it right, Wing does it right, so what,

Re: Wingide is a beautiful application

2005-12-18 Thread Sybren Stuvel
Sybren Stuvel enlightened us with: SPE is already annoying because of all the new windows it opens... Not a good start. I remember using it before, to check out the Blender integration. Unfortunately, that didn't work. I'll give it another go. I downloaded it, tried to run it, then it stopped

Re: Wingide is a beautiful application

2005-12-18 Thread bonono
I have been using vi/vim for a very long time and love it(now using ion3 + vim, not even gvim on debian), but never found it blend well with the Windows GUI. Sybren Stuvel wrote: Claudio Grondi enlightened us with: The file I was editing was just 22 KByte large having 450 lines, so you try

Re: Wingide is a beautiful application

2005-12-18 Thread BartlebyScrivener
If you're on Windows XP why not try Xemacs? That's free and does syntax highlighting etc. Doesn't have a problem with large files and so on. rpd -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Wingide is a beautiful application

2005-12-17 Thread vinjvinj
I haven't used an IDE in a long time but gave wing ide a try because I wanted the same development platform on Linux and Windows. I'm currently using Ultraedit and it works fine but needed something more portable as I'm moving my main platform over to Ubuntu. I first tried jedit and was

Re: Wingide is a beautiful application

2005-12-17 Thread Sybren Stuvel
vinjvinj enlightened us with: I haven't used an IDE in a long time but gave wing ide a try because I wanted the same development platform on Linux and Windows. I use gvim for that :) - Ability to double click on the project plan and it hides and you double click on it and it becomes visable

Re: Wingide is a beautiful application

2005-12-17 Thread Steve Holden
Sybren Stuvel wrote: vinjvinj enlightened us with: I haven't used an IDE in a long time but gave wing ide a try because I wanted the same development platform on Linux and Windows. I use gvim for that :) - Ability to double click on the project plan and it hides and you double click on

Re: Wingide is a beautiful application

2005-12-17 Thread James
I haven't used an IDE in a long time but gave wing ide a try because I wanted the same development platform on Linux and Windows. I'm currently using Ultraedit and it works fine but needed something more portable as I'm moving my main platform over to Ubuntu. I first tried jedit and was

Re: Wingide is a beautiful application

2005-12-17 Thread Claudio Grondi
vinjvinj wrote: I haven't used an IDE in a long time but gave wing ide a try because I wanted the same development platform on Linux and Windows. I'm currently using Ultraedit and it works fine but needed something more portable as I'm moving my main platform over to Ubuntu. This is also

Re: Wingide is a beautiful application

2005-12-17 Thread Jonathan Ellis
James wrote: I haven't used an IDE in a long time but gave wing ide a try because I wanted the same development platform on Linux and Windows. Then you owe it to yourself to also try SPE, PyDev and Boa Constructor (got off to a slow start, but it looks promising now). All are free, open

Re: Wingide is a beautiful application

2005-12-17 Thread Shalabh Chaturvedi
James wrote: 2.) Auto List members implementation is great. But what about call tips? Just as important and every other Python IDE has it. Jonathan Ellis wrote: Wing shows calltip info in the Source Assistant panel. (Pro version only, IIRC.) However it's not as useful as call tips. You