Re: any issues with long running python apps?

2010-07-16 Thread Les Schaffer
thanks to all for the replies. the Windows memory fragmentation was one of the i didn't know that items. we will use 64-bit Windows OS if the job happens. agree with all the other suggestions: multiple threads for data and GUI, etc. Also, might push for Linux even though the company is

Re: any issues with long running python apps?

2010-07-16 Thread Stefan Behnel
Les Schaffer, 16.07.2010 15:07: agree with all the other suggestions: multiple threads for data and GUI, The way I read it, the suggestion was to use separate processes, not multiple threads. That's a pretty important difference. Stefan --

Re: any issues with long running python apps?

2010-07-16 Thread Les Schaffer
Stefan Behnel wrote: Les Schaffer, 16.07.2010 15:07: agree with all the other suggestions: multiple threads for data and GUI, The way I read it, the suggestion was to use separate processes, not multiple threads. That's a pretty important difference. check. processes, not threads. Les --

Re: any issues with long running python apps?

2010-07-14 Thread Maria R
I can second the stated opinion that Python per se is stable enough. We deliver production systems running 24/7 with uptimes counted in several months and from what I can see, compared to the OP's app, ours is vastly more complex. The only Python-related issue we have encountered so far, wrt to

Re: any issues with long running python apps?

2010-07-12 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-07-09, Les Schaffer schaf...@optonline.net wrote: i have been asked to guarantee that a proposed Python application will run continuously under MS Windows for two months time. And i am looking ^^ IMO, that's going to be your main problem. -- Grant

Re: any issues with long running python apps?

2010-07-12 Thread John Nagle
On 7/12/2010 7:19 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2010-07-09, Les Schafferschaf...@optonline.net wrote: i have been asked to guarantee that a proposed Python application will run continuously under MS Windows for two months time. And i am looking ^^ IMO, that's

Re: any issues with long running python apps?

2010-07-12 Thread CM
On Jul 12, 1:16 pm, John Nagle na...@animats.com wrote: On 7/12/2010 7:19 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2010-07-09, Les Schafferschaf...@optonline.net  wrote: i have been asked to guarantee that a proposed Python application will run continuously under MS Windows for two months time. And i

Re: any issues with long running python apps?

2010-07-12 Thread John Bokma
John Nagle na...@animats.com writes: Yesterday, I was running a CNC plasma cutter that's controlled by Windows XP. This is a machine that moves around a plasma torch that cuts thick steel plate. A New Java update is available window popped up while I was working. Not good. You can

Re: any issues with long running python apps?

2010-07-12 Thread Tim Chase
On 07/12/2010 12:16 PM, John Nagle wrote: On 7/12/2010 7:19 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2010-07-09, Les Schafferschaf...@optonline.net wrote: i have been asked to guarantee that a proposed Python application will run continuously under MS Windows for two months time. And i am looking

Re: any issues with long running python apps?

2010-07-12 Thread Stephen Hansen
On 7/12/10 10:16 AM, John Nagle wrote: Yesterday, I was running a CNC plasma cutter that's controlled by Windows XP. This is a machine that moves around a plasma torch that cuts thick steel plate. A New Java update is available window popped up while I was working. Not good. That's

Re: any issues with long running python apps?

2010-07-12 Thread CM
     Yesterday, I was running a CNC plasma cutter that's controlled by Windows XP.  This is a machine that moves around a plasma torch that cuts thick steel plate.  A New Java update is available window popped up while I was working.  Not good. Clippy Hi, it looks like you're attempting

Re: any issues with long running python apps?

2010-07-10 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Les Schaffer a écrit : i have been asked to guarantee that a proposed Python application will run continuously under MS Windows for two months time. And i am looking to know what i don't know. (snip) but none of this has anything to do with Python itself. i am sure python servers have been

Re: any issues with long running python apps?

2010-07-10 Thread John Nagle
On 7/9/2010 12:13 PM, Les Schaffer wrote: i have been asked to guarantee that a proposed Python application will run continuously under MS Windows for two months time. And i am looking to know what i don't know. The app would read instrument data from a serial port, If the device you're

Re: any issues with long running python apps?

2010-07-10 Thread Alf P. Steinbach /Usenet
* John Nagle, on 10.07.2010 20:54: On 7/9/2010 12:13 PM, Les Schaffer wrote: i have been asked to guarantee that a proposed Python application will run continuously under MS Windows for two months time. And i am looking to know what i don't know. The app would read instrument data from a

Re: any issues with long running python apps?

2010-07-10 Thread sturlamolden
On 10 Jul, 02:23, Tim Chase python.l...@tim.thechases.com wrote: While I'm not sure how much of Roy's comment was hah, hah, just serious, this has been my biggest issue with long-running Python processes on Win32 -- either power outages the UPS can't handle, or (more frequently) the updates

any issues with long running python apps?

2010-07-09 Thread Les Schaffer
i have been asked to guarantee that a proposed Python application will run continuously under MS Windows for two months time. And i am looking to know what i don't know. The app would read instrument data from a serial port, store the data in file, and display in matplotlib. typical sampling

Re: any issues with long running python apps?

2010-07-09 Thread Michael Torrie
On 07/09/2010 01:13 PM, Les Schaffer wrote: or need we only concern ourselves with the nuts behind the wheel:that is, we the developers? It never hurts to separate the data collection and visualization/analysis parts into separate programs. That way you can keep the critical, long-running

Re: any issues with long running python apps?

2010-07-09 Thread Christian Heimes
but none of this has anything to do with Python itself. i am sure python servers have been running reliably for long periods of time, but i've never had to deal with a two-month guarantee before. is there something else i am missing here that i should be concerned about on the

Re: any issues with long running python apps?

2010-07-09 Thread William Heymann
On Friday 09 July 2010, Les Schaffer wrote: but none of this has anything to do with Python itself. i am sure python servers have been running reliably for long periods of time, but i've never had to deal with a two-month guarantee before. is there something else i am missing here that i

Re: any issues with long running python apps?

2010-07-09 Thread Terry Reedy
On 7/9/2010 3:13 PM, Les Schaffer wrote: i have been asked to guarantee that a proposed Python application will run continuously under MS Windows for two months time. And i am looking to know what i don't know. The app would read instrument data from a serial port, store the data in file, and

Re: any issues with long running python apps?

2010-07-09 Thread geremy condra
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Les Schaffer schaf...@optonline.net wrote: i have been asked to guarantee that a proposed Python application will run continuously under MS Windows for two months time. And i am looking to know what i don't know. I normally use Linux for this sort of thing, so

Re: any issues with long running python apps?

2010-07-09 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
On 07/09/10 20:13, Les Schaffer wrote: i have been asked to guarantee that a proposed Python application will run continuously under MS Windows for two months time. And i am looking to know what i don't know. Get a good lawyer and put into the contract, the last thing you want is a windows

Re: any issues with long running python apps?

2010-07-09 Thread John Nagle
On 7/9/2010 12:13 PM, Les Schaffer wrote: i have been asked to guarantee that a proposed Python application will run continuously under MS Windows for two months time. And i am looking to know what i don't know. What if Master Control in Redmond decides to reboot your machine to install an

Re: any issues with long running python apps?

2010-07-09 Thread Emile van Sebille
On 7/9/2010 12:13 PM Les Schaffer said... i have been asked to guarantee that a proposed Python application will run continuously under MS Windows for two months time. Keep users off the machine, turn off automated updates, and point dns to 127.0.0.1. Oh, put it on a UPS. I've got a handful

Re: any issues with long running python apps?

2010-07-09 Thread Roy Smith
In article 4c3774df$0$31278$607ed...@cv.net, Les Schaffer schaf...@optonline.net wrote: i have been asked to guarantee that a proposed Python application will run continuously under MS Windows for two months time. And i am looking to know what i don't know. Heh. The OS won't stay up that

Re: any issues with long running python apps?

2010-07-09 Thread Tim Chase
On 07/09/2010 06:32 PM, Roy Smith wrote: i have been asked to guarantee that a proposed Python application will run continuously under MS Windows for two months time. And i am looking to know what i don't know. Heh. The OS won't stay up that long. While I'm not sure how much of Roy's

Re: any issues with long running python apps?

2010-07-09 Thread Dan Stromberg
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Tim Chase python.l...@tim.thechases.comwrote: On 07/09/2010 06:32 PM, Roy Smith wrote: i have been asked to guarantee that a proposed Python application will run continuously under MS Windows for two months time. And i am looking to know what i don't know.