Re: Am I banned from Discuss forum?

2023-02-11 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 11Feb2023 13:21, Roel Schroeven wrote: Michael Torrie schreef op 11/02/2023 om 4:59: I didn't know there was a Discourse forum. Is it supposed to be sync > with the mailing list and USENET? Or is it intended to replace this mailing list? I rarely see Python devs on this list,

Re: Am I banned from Discuss forum?

2023-02-11 Thread Roel Schroeven
Michael Torrie schreef op 11/02/2023 om 4:59: I didn't know there was a Discourse forum. Is it supposed to be sync > with the mailing list and USENET? Or is it intended to replace this > mailing list? I rarely see Python devs on this list, so maybe > they've chosen to hang

Re: Am I banned from Discuss forum?

2023-02-10 Thread Michael Torrie
On 2/10/23 14:10, Marco Sulla wrote: > I was banned from the mailing list and Discuss forum for a very long time. > Too much IMHO, but I paid my dues. > > Now this is my state in the forum: > - I never posted something unrespectful in the last months > - I have a limitation

Am I banned from Discuss forum?

2023-02-10 Thread Marco Sulla
I was banned from the mailing list and Discuss forum for a very long time. Too much IMHO, but I paid my dues. Now this is my state in the forum: - I never posted something unrespectful in the last months - I have a limitation of three posts per threads, but only on some threads - Some random

Discussion forum for typing Q&A and review requests

2021-09-13 Thread Sebastian Rittau
Typing with Python is hard and constantly evolving. This is why we set up a forum to help users with typing at https://github.com/python/typing/discussions <https://github.com/python/typing/discussions>. It's fairly new, but at the moment we have two categories for general Q&A

Re: What's the best forum to get help with Pandas?

2020-02-20 Thread Skip Montanaro
I believe the Pandas people tend to refer people to Stack Overflow. I find that suboptimal as many questions go completely unanswered or get gruff responses. Aside from that, I suspect this list is as good a place as any to request help. Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-lis

What's the best forum to get help with Pandas?

2020-02-20 Thread Luca
subject has it all. Thanks -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python Requests script to login to a phpbb forum

2014-02-19 Thread Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick
e let me know if > I would be better off asking in a phpBB related group or forum. > Here is my code without username and password included: You need cookies. In order to do it, simply use sessions instead of the “global” API. Code: import requests payload = {'username': 'u

Python Requests script to login to a phpbb forum

2014-02-19 Thread Leo
up or forum. Here is my code without username and password included: import requests payload = {'username': 'username', 'password': 'password'} r = requests.post("http://www.tt-forums.net/ucp.php?mode=login",data=payload) sidStart = r.text.find

Re: Pythonwin forum?

2014-02-14 Thread Tim Golden
On 14/02/2014 03:17, John Doe wrote: > What's the best place for asking questions about the Pythonwin > IDE? > > I'm a novice programmer, so in an effort to be more clear I'm > talking about the program at this path on my hard drive... > > C:\Python27\Lib\site-packages\pythonwin\Pythonwin.exe

Pythonwin forum?

2014-02-13 Thread John Doe
What's the best place for asking questions about the Pythonwin IDE? I'm a novice programmer, so in an effort to be more clear I'm talking about the program at this path on my hard drive... C:\Python27\Lib\site-packages\pythonwin\Pythonwin.exe It appears to be an editor and a compiler. I have

Re: Disable HTML in forum messages (was: Movie (MPAA) ratings and Python?)

2013-12-12 Thread Steve Hayes
On 12 Dec 2013 11:05:35 GMT, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 19:23:39 -0800, rusi wrote: > >> The problem is that then your other mails (may) become plain text and >> your friends/recipients will wonder whether you've entered a >> time-machine and gone back to 1990!! > >Not everything

Re: Disable HTML in forum messages (was: Movie (MPAA) ratings and Python?)

2013-12-12 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Wed, 11 Dec 2013 19:23:39 -0800, rusi wrote: > The problem is that then your other mails (may) become plain text and > your friends/recipients will wonder whether you've entered a > time-machine and gone back to 1990!! Not everything that's changed since 1990 has been an improvement. > Many

Re: Disable HTML in forum messages (was: Movie (MPAA) ratings and Python?)

2013-12-11 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 2:23 PM, rusi wrote: > When you click on send/reply in gmail, there's a small down-triangle > next to the dustbin, inside which you will find a plain text option > > The problem is that then your other mails (may) become plain text and > your friends/recipients will wonder

Re: Disable HTML in forum messages (was: Movie (MPAA) ratings and Python?)

2013-12-11 Thread rusi
ng HTML in messages is a good idea: HTML rarely adds anything > useful to a message in a discussion forum, but it can cause the mail > program to do actions unwanted by the user (e.g. fetch images from > elsewhere, or run ECMAScript, or invoke HTML rendering bugs). When you click on

Re: Disable HTML in forum messages (was: Movie (MPAA) ratings and Python?)

2013-12-11 Thread Ian Kelly
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Ben Finney wrote: >> I found a "remove formatting" button in gmail's composer, and used it >> on this message. Does this message look like plain text? > > Still sent with an HTML part, so some other change must be needed to > disable that. Check the default format

Disable HTML in forum messages (was: Movie (MPAA) ratings and Python?)

2013-12-11 Thread Ben Finney
Dan Stromberg writes: > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Steven D'Aprano < > steve+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote: > > By the way, this forum is a text-only newsgroup and so-called "Rich > > Text" (actually HTML) posts are frowned upon […] > &g

Official discussion forum for a project (was: Packaging a proprietary Python library for multiple OSs)

2013-12-05 Thread Ben Finney
Travis Griggs writes: > On Dec 5, 2013, at 2:56 AM, rusi wrote: > > > 3. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/python-virtualenv may be > > a better place to ask > > Am I the only one that sees the irony in this suggestion? Given the > long running tirades^H^H^H^H

Re: python-forum

2012-11-02 Thread Sacha Rook
Thanks for the update and the invite don't mind if I do. cheers sachlar On 2 November 2012 08:26, Chris Rebert wrote: > On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 1:19 AM, Sacha Rook wrote: > > Hi does anyone know where the python-form.org site has gone? > > Some googling suggests that it's under new managemen

Re: python-forum

2012-11-02 Thread Chris Rebert
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 1:19 AM, Sacha Rook wrote: > Hi does anyone know where the python-form.org site has gone? Some googling suggests that it's under new management: http://mcompute.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=2161 But comp.lang.python/python-list is better anyway [ ;-) ], and you're already here

python-forum

2012-11-02 Thread Sacha Rook
Hi does anyone know where the python-form.org site has gone? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Use the appropriate forum for recruitment (was: Client Needs Linux Admin position in Pleasanton, CA)

2012-10-14 Thread Ben Finney
ram dev writes: > Good Day, > We have an urgent Contract Opening in Pleasanton, CA. Please don't use this discussion forum for recruitment. For Python job recruiters and seekers, we have a separate Python Job Board http://www.python.org/community/jobs/>. > Job Title: Linux A

Re: Only one forum app in Python?

2010-07-17 Thread Gilles Ganault
On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 18:37:00 +0200, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: >There are almost a dozen of Python "forum apps" for Django alone, and >Python is known as "the language with more web frameworks than keywords". So this list at Wikipedia is out-of-date/wrong, and there ar

Re: Only one forum app in Python?

2010-07-12 Thread James Mills
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Gilles Ganault wrote: >>There are almost a dozen of Python "forum apps" for Django alone, and >>Python is known as "the language with more web frameworks than keywords". Speaking of frameworks and python forums, sahriswiki 91) is

Re: Only one forum app in Python?

2010-07-12 Thread Gilles Ganault
On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 18:37:00 +0200, Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: >There are almost a dozen of Python "forum apps" for Django alone, and >Python is known as "the language with more web frameworks than keywords". Thanks for the tip. I'll head that way. -- http://m

Re: Only one forum app in Python?

2010-07-10 Thread Bruno Desthuilliers
Gilles Ganault a écrit : > Hello > > I'd like to write a small web app in Python which must include a > forum. > > So I checked the relevant article in Wikipedia, which says that only > one forum app is available for Python: > &

Re: Only one forum app in Python?

2010-07-09 Thread Stefaan Himpe
Is Pocoo really the only solution available out there? No. See e.g. http://www.pyforum.org/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Only one forum app in Python?

2010-07-09 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven
-On [20100709 10:22], Gilles Ganault (nos...@nospam.com) wrote: >Is Pocoo really the only solution available out there? Pocoo as a forum app has been dead for years. Maybe Vithon (http://bitbucket.org/vithon/vithon-forum/src) does what you want/need. http://www.vithon.org/forum should be a l

Re: Only one forum app in Python?

2010-07-09 Thread James Mills
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Gilles Ganault wrote: > Is Pocoo really the only solution available out there? Did you bother to check pypi ? cheers James 1. http://pypi.python.org/ -- -- James Mills -- -- "Problems are solved by method" -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Only one forum app in Python?

2010-07-09 Thread Gilles Ganault
Hello I'd like to write a small web app in Python which must include a forum. So I checked the relevant article in Wikipedia, which says that only one forum app is available for Python: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_internet_forum_software_(other) Is Pocoo really the only sol

Re: Recommend a MySQLdb Forum

2010-07-07 Thread Tim Johnson
On 2010-07-07, Philip Semanchuk wrote: > > On Jul 6, 2010, at 3:16 PM, Tim Johnson wrote: > >> Greetings: >> I would appreciate it if some could recommend a MySQLdb forum. > > The one associated the sourceforge project seems like a good bet. > > 1) go here: http

Re: Recommend a MySQLdb Forum

2010-07-07 Thread Philip Semanchuk
On Jul 6, 2010, at 3:16 PM, Tim Johnson wrote: Greetings: I would appreciate it if some could recommend a MySQLdb forum. The one associated the sourceforge project seems like a good bet. 1) go here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/mysql-python/ 2) click support -- http://mail.python.org

Recommend a MySQLdb Forum

2010-07-06 Thread Tim Johnson
Greetings: I would appreciate it if some could recommend a MySQLdb forum. thanks tim -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Non Sequitur: Re: Python Forum

2010-06-09 Thread geremy condra
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 1:19 AM, Gregory Ewing wrote: > rantingrick wrote: >> >> I ate >> three fishes just sounds wrong to me. What's the plural of sheep >> Stephen :-D > > It's sheepses, isn't it? Am I missing something? Shyp. Pronounced the same way, just spelled differently. Geremy Condra --

Re: Non Sequitur: Re: Python Forum

2010-06-09 Thread Gregory Ewing
rantingrick wrote: I ate three fishes just sounds wrong to me. What's the plural of sheep Stephen :-D It's sheepses, isn't it? Am I missing something? -- Greg -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Non Sequitur: Re: Python Forum

2010-06-08 Thread MRAB
Mark Young wrote: According to the Oxford Dictionary: *fish** noun **, **verb *noun *(**pl.**fish** or **fishes**)*Fish is the usual plural form. The older form, fishes, can be used to refer to different kinds of

Re: Non Sequitur: Re: Python Forum

2010-06-08 Thread rantingrick
On Jun 8, 9:00 pm, Jack Diederich wrote: > On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Mark Young wrote: > > According to the Oxford Dictionary: > > > fish noun, verb noun (pl.fish or fishes)Fish is the usual plural form. The > > older form, fishes, can be used to refer to different kinds of fish... > > > Ho

Re: Non Sequitur: Re: Python Forum

2010-06-08 Thread Jack Diederich
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Mark Young wrote: > According to the Oxford Dictionary: > > fish noun, verb noun (pl.fish or fishes)Fish is the usual plural form. The > older form, fishes, can be used to refer to different kinds of fish... > > However, I would correct anyone that ever used "fishes

Re: Non Sequitur: Re: Python Forum

2010-06-08 Thread Mark Young
According to the Oxford Dictionary: *fish** noun **, **verb *noun *(**pl.**fish** or **fishes**) *Fish is the usual plural form. The older form, fishes, can be used to refer to different kinds of fish... However, I wo

Re: Non Sequitur: Re: Python Forum

2010-06-08 Thread News123
rantingrick wrote: > On Jun 7, 12:41 am, Steven D'Aprano t...@cybersource.com.au> wrote: > >> "Fish" can be either singular (as in "I fed the fish") or a collective >> noun ("there are many fish that live in salt water"). Plural is "fishes", >> as in "I ate three fishes", although in common use p

Re: Non Sequitur: Re: Python Forum

2010-06-07 Thread rantingrick
On Jun 7, 12:41 am, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > "Fish" can be either singular (as in "I fed the fish") or a collective > noun ("there are many fish that live in salt water"). Plural is "fishes", > as in "I ate three fishes", although in common use people tend to use > fish/fishes as both plural and

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-07 Thread python
> However, it would be nice to have an expire function so that messages that I > don't read for a specified time simply disappear. Do any email clients do > that? I use Fastmail.fm as my email service (and browser based email client). Fastmail supports the ability to automatically delete message

Re: Non Sequitur: Re: Python Forum

2010-06-06 Thread Steven D'Aprano
; I see your smiley, but the Oxford dictionary does suggest that "fora" is only acceptable as the plural when talking about more than one ancient Roman forum. When using it in the context of English, as we are doing here, the accepted plural is "forums". After all, we don'

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-06 Thread Aahz
In article <87r5kj8zmk@benfinney.id.au>, Ben Finney wrote: > >So you say. For the interface to be "better" it needs to keep the good >features of the existing interface. I include among the good features of >Usenet: > > [...] You skipped over the crowning glories of Usenet: * Threaded mess

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-06 Thread Ben Finney
"D'Arcy J.M. Cain" writes: > On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 11:02:21 +1000 > Lie Ryan wrote: > > I think Ben Finney was making comparison between Usenet/Mailing-List > > vs Forum. The argument basically sums up to Distributed vs. > > Centralized. > > I don'

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-06 Thread Ben Finney
. > By the way, what is the generic term for Usenet groups, mailing lists > and forums? They all have a common overall purpose and it seems as if > there should be a word. There is a good word: “forum”. That covers any place (even virtual places) where people congregate to discuss on an ag

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-06 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 11:02:21 +1000 Lie Ryan wrote: > On 06/07/10 10:45, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: > > That's a great list of features. But they all apply to mailing lists as > > well. > > I think Ben Finney was making comparison between Usenet/Mailing-List vs >

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-06 Thread Lie Ryan
gt; That's a great list of features. But they all apply to mailing lists as > well. I think Ben Finney was making comparison between Usenet/Mailing-List vs Forum. The argument basically sums up to Distributed vs. Centralized. >> Where is the “much better interface” that improves on

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-06 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:17:39 +1000 Ben Finney wrote: > So you say. For the interface to be “better” it needs to keep the good > features of the existing interface. I include among the good features of > Usenet: That's a great list of features. But they all apply to mailing lists as well. > * No

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-06 Thread Ben Finney
rantingrick writes: > There has been many arguments here for and against Usenet. Personally > I say the rein of Usenet is coming to its logical conclusion. Dead as > a clavo! Much better interfaces abound. So you say. For the interface to be “better” it needs to keep the good features of the exi

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-06 Thread Aahz
In article , Monte Milanuk wrote: >On 6/6/10 9:46 AM, Aahz wrote: >> >> but I prefer to rely on someone else's sysadmin and I >> really don't want to allow remote connections into my home network. > >To each their own... while Panix is fairly relaxed as a shell host, I >prefer to not have someon

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-06 Thread Monte Milanuk
On 6/6/10 9:46 AM, Aahz wrote: but I prefer to rely on someone else's sysadmin and I really don't want to allow remote connections into my home network. To each their own... while Panix is fairly relaxed as a shell host, I prefer to not have someone else telling me what I can and can't install

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-06 Thread rantingrick
On Jun 2, 3:04 am, pyDev wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to let the community know that there is a new web-based > forum for Python enthusiasts over at PythonForum.org (http:// > pythonforum.org). There has been many arguments here for and against Usenet. Personally I say the re

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-06 Thread Aahz
In article , Monte Milanuk wrote: >On 6/5/10 10:11 PM, Aahz wrote: >> In article, >> Monte Milanuk wrote: >>> >>> Decent NNTP access is harder to find. Not impossible, but no longer >>> a 'free' part of most standard ISP access any more. >> >> This seems like a good time to promote my ISP: pani

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-06 Thread Monte Milanuk
On 6/5/10 10:11 PM, Aahz wrote: In article, Monte Milanuk wrote: Decent NNTP access is harder to find. Not impossible, but no longer a 'free' part of most standard ISP access any more. This seems like a good time to promote my ISP: panix.com Used to have an account with them... but of les

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-05 Thread Aahz
In article <4c09b1f7$0$28659$c3e8...@news.astraweb.com>, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > >I'm sorry for all you people who don't live in a place with a genuinely >free market, and instead have to suffer with the lack of competition and >poor service of a monopoly or duopoly masquerading as a free mark

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-05 Thread Aahz
In article , Monte Milanuk wrote: > >Decent NNTP access is harder to find. Not impossible, but no longer >a 'free' part of most standard ISP access any more. This seems like a good time to promote my ISP: panix.com -- Aahz (a...@pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-05 Thread John Bokma
Lie Ryan writes: > On 06/05/10 12:34, John Bokma wrote: [..] >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/python >> >> But to be honest I mostly end up on Stack Overflow when I google for a >> specific problem, and most of the time I find a nice concise answer >> without much noise. > > Same her

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-05 Thread Lie Ryan
On 06/05/10 12:34, John Bokma wrote: > Lie Ryan writes: > >> If you look at Stack Overflow, the highest voted questions are: >> >> - Hidden Features of C#? >> - What is the single most influential book every programmer should read? >> - What's your favorite "programmer" cartoon? >> - What is your

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-04 Thread John Bokma
Steven D'Aprano writes: > On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 08:56:34 -0500, Jim Byrnes wrote: > >> I thought his point was they are big enough to have the resources to >> offer newsgroups but don't. If I want fast internet I must use Comcast >> and Comcast doesn't offer newsgroups either. Sadly is seems gett

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-04 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 15:55:08 -0500, John Bokma wrote: > "Alf P. Steinbach" writes: [...] >> It started, as I see it, back in the early 90's with Playboy attempting >> to sue anyone who used the Lena picture in photo processing tests etc. >> (it's the standard image for that). They failed in that

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-04 Thread John Bokma
Lie Ryan writes: > If you look at Stack Overflow, the highest voted questions are: > > - Hidden Features of C#? > - What is the single most influential book every programmer should read? > - What's your favorite "programmer" cartoon? > - What is your best programmer joke? > ... and so on > > many

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-04 Thread John Bokma
Grant Edwards writes: > On 2010-06-04, John Bokma wrote: >> Lie Ryan writes: >> >>> On 06/05/10 04:19, John Bokma wrote: Steven D'Aprano writes: > But the really sad thing is that you think that "bigger" automatically > equals "better". I don't think that was the

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-04 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 02:29:58 -0400, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: > On 04 Jun 2010 05:41:17 GMT > Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> Sure, a lot of those 1,800 posts are spam, but the spammers wouldn't >> waste their time if they didn't think there were people still on >> Usenet. > > Kidding, right? Cost to s

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-04 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 05:22:21 +1000, Lie Ryan wrote: > Probably. A vote up/down feature tend to highlight popular problems, but > it also buries less popular problems that might have perfectly good > answers. I think Google Groups have 5-star-rating system? You might want > to check on that. I don

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-04 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 08:56:34 -0500, Jim Byrnes wrote: > I thought his point was they are big enough to have the resources to > offer newsgroups but don't. If I want fast internet I must use Comcast > and Comcast doesn't offer newsgroups either. Sadly is seems getting > access to newsgroups is ge

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-04 Thread Lie Ryan
super-easy GED-level >>>>>> questions, here??! >>>>> >>>>> I agree. This proves conclusively that a web forum is the right >>>>> place for you. >>>> >>>> Ah, so you feel up to my "xsl for xmlrunner.py&qu

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-04 Thread Terry Reedy
On 6/4/2010 3:04 PM, Emile van Sebille wrote: On 6/4/2010 11:27 AM Terry Reedy said... On 6/4/2010 12:28 PM, Emile van Sebille wrote: Is there now a non-email method of posting to this list? Google <==> comp.lang.python <==> python-list <==> gmane.comp.python.general where <==> is a bi-dire

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-04 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-06-04, John Bokma wrote: > Lie Ryan writes: > >> On 06/05/10 04:19, John Bokma wrote: >>> Steven D'Aprano writes: >>> But the really sad thing is that you think that "bigger" automatically equals "better". >>> >>> I don't think that was the point. >>> >>> Anyway, not everbo

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-04 Thread John Bokma
geremy condra writes: > On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 1:55 PM, John Bokma wrote: >> I know of the use of Lena. And to be honest, I agree with Playboy that >> they have the copyright. Some of the articles published on image >> processing end up behind a paywall or in a book. And I don't think the >> aut

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-04 Thread geremy condra
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 1:55 PM, John Bokma wrote: > I know of the use of Lena. And to be honest, I agree with Playboy that > they have the copyright. Some of the articles published on image > processing end up behind a paywall or in a book. And I don't think the > authors will be very happy if I c

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-04 Thread John Bokma
Lie Ryan writes: > On 06/05/10 04:19, John Bokma wrote: >> Steven D'Aprano writes: >> >>> But the really sad thing is that you think that "bigger" automatically >>> equals "better". >> >> I don't think that was the point. >> >> Anyway, not everbody can pick a provider, there are plenty of pl

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-04 Thread John Bokma
Lie Ryan writes: > On 06/04/10 11:56, John Bokma wrote: >> Phlip writes: >> >>> On Jun 3, 3:20 pm, geremy condra wrote: >>> >>>>> You mean like how I never get answers, to my super-easy GED-level >>>>> questions, here??! >

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-04 Thread John Bokma
limit free speech and support all kinds > surveillance. In my experience, as in people I know who've left Usenet, reasons for leaving Usenet are: 1) spam, number 1 culprit being Google. 2) newbies who don't care about posting guidelines 3) regulars in their ivory towers Other reaso

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-04 Thread Lie Ryan
On 06/05/10 05:04, Emile van Sebille wrote: > On 6/4/2010 11:27 AM Terry Reedy said... >> On 6/4/2010 12:28 PM, Emile van Sebille wrote: >> >>> Is there now a non-email method of posting to this list? >> >> Google <==> comp.lang.python <==> python-list <==> >> gmane.comp.python.general >> >> where

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-04 Thread Lie Ryan
On 06/05/10 04:19, John Bokma wrote: > Steven D'Aprano writes: > >> But the really sad thing is that you think that "bigger" automatically >> equals "better". > > I don't think that was the point. > > Anyway, not everbody can pick a provider, there are plenty of places > that have only one or

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-04 Thread Lie Ryan
On 06/04/10 11:56, John Bokma wrote: > Phlip writes: > >> On Jun 3, 3:20 pm, geremy condra wrote: >> >>>> You mean like how I never get answers, to my super-easy GED-level >>>> questions, here??! >>> >>> I agree. This proves conclusive

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-04 Thread Alf P. Steinbach
ups (Google picked up that archive from Deja News). Until some replacement for Usenet appears, online discussion will in general be effectively /local/, unknown to all but the parties currently using a given web forum, and it will in general not be archived. As I see it, those who have made a

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-04 Thread Emile van Sebille
On 6/4/2010 11:27 AM Terry Reedy said... On 6/4/2010 12:28 PM, Emile van Sebille wrote: Is there now a non-email method of posting to this list? Google <==> comp.lang.python <==> python-list <==> gmane.comp.python.general where <==> is a bi-directional gateway. Yes -- I use gmane as well.

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-04 Thread Andreas Waldenburger
onsolidation is the *only* way to go, really. The parallelism > >>> between c.l.p. and python-list is great already. Now throw some > >>> sort of Forum in the mix > >> > >> This already *is* a forum. Whatever it is you think is needed, it's > >> alre

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-04 Thread John Bokma
Emile van Sebille writes: > On 6/3/2010 10:41 PM Steven D'Aprano said... >> On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 06:15:20 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: >>> Most people use this list via e-mail, >> >> How do you know? Do you have evidence for this, or are you just making it >> up? >> > > Is there now a non-ema

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-04 Thread John Bokma
Steven D'Aprano writes: > Sure, a lot of those 1,800 posts are spam, but the spammers wouldn't > waste their time if they didn't think there were people still on > Usenet. Heh, since spamming goes automatically who cares how many people it reaches. I also see spam in which people forget to incl

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-04 Thread John Bokma
k on Active State [..] > That's 2 different things. When you use a programming language you > know you have to adopt the syntax defined by the program. When you > write something in a forum, you expect that the editor will be smart > enough to know that http://pythonforum.org is a URL

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-04 Thread Andreas Waldenburger
On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 09:28:23 -0700 Emile van Sebille wrote: > On 6/3/2010 10:41 PM Steven D'Aprano said... > > On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 06:15:20 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > >> Most people use this list via e-mail, > > > > How do you know? Do you have evidence for this, or are you just > > maki

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-04 Thread Alf P. Steinbach
* Andreas Waldenburger, on 04.06.2010 20:21: On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 00:57:15 +1000 Ben Finney wrote: Andreas Waldenburger writes: But consolidation is the *only* way to go, really. The parallelism between c.l.p. and python-list is great already. Now throw some sort of Forum in the mix This

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-04 Thread Terry Reedy
On 6/4/2010 12:28 PM, Emile van Sebille wrote: Is there now a non-email method of posting to this list? Google <==> comp.lang.python <==> python-list <==> gmane.comp.python.general where <==> is a bi-directional gateway. Gmane mirrors about 250 other Python mailing lists under gman.comp.pyt

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-04 Thread Andreas Waldenburger
On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 00:57:15 +1000 Ben Finney wrote: > Andreas Waldenburger writes: > > > But consolidation is the *only* way to go, really. The parallelism > > between c.l.p. and python-list is great already. Now throw some sort > > of Forum in the mix > > This

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-04 Thread John Bokma
Steven D'Aprano writes: > But the really sad thing is that you think that "bigger" automatically > equals "better". I don't think that was the point. Anyway, not everbody can pick a provider, there are plenty of places that have only one or maybe two. And if that's the choice and neither carri

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-04 Thread Emile van Sebille
On 6/3/2010 10:41 PM Steven D'Aprano said... On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 06:15:20 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: Most people use this list via e-mail, How do you know? Do you have evidence for this, or are you just making it up? Is there now a non-email method of posting to this list? Emile

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-04 Thread Michael Torrie
On 06/03/2010 04:15 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > The best solution I've seen is what is used by the Mono project; > which provides both a "web forum" and a mail list interface. > > <http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list> > <http://g

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-04 Thread Jim Byrnes
Steven D'Aprano wrote: On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 22:05:19 -0700, Phlip wrote: On Jun 3, 9:54 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote: I don't know what rubbish ISPs you're dealing with You've heard of a little fly-by-night outfit called AT&T? Yes I have. Aren't they the people who were engaged in a long-run

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-04 Thread Pierre Quentel
a URL in a form that > is not broken, well, that doesn't say much for their skills as a coder > does it? If you can't handle the fact that URLs can't be broken over > multiple lines in email and news posts, how do you expect to handle even > more vigorous requirements while

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-04 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 15:40 -0700, Phlip wrote: > On Jun 3, 3:20 pm, geremy condra wrote: > > > You mean like how I never get answers, to my super-easy GED-level > > > questions, here??! > > I agree. This proves conclusively that a web forum is the right > > place

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-03 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On 04 Jun 2010 05:41:17 GMT Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Sure, a lot of those 1,800 posts are spam, but the spammers wouldn't > waste their time if they didn't think there were people still on Usenet. Kidding, right? Cost to spam is virtually zero so the ROI is pretty close to infinite no matter ho

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-03 Thread John Nagle
. Despite my sarcasm, I actually do wish them the best. I'm not thrilled about having to deal with yet another forum system This one is at best mediocre. It took 14 seconds to deliver its home page. It wants me to "register". Which probably means I'll be spammed. Fo

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-03 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 22:05:19 -0700, Phlip wrote: > On Jun 3, 9:54 pm, Steven D'Aprano cybersource.com.au> wrote: > >> I don't know what rubbish ISPs you're dealing with > > You've heard of a little fly-by-night outfit called AT&T? Yes I have. Aren't they the people who were engaged in a long-r

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-03 Thread Steven D'Aprano
On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 06:15:20 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > So? NNTP is the living dead. Time to let it go. So you say. I think the millions of posts on Usenet say different. According to Wikipedia, the average number of all text posts in the Big-8 newsgroups is 1,800 new messages every

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-03 Thread geremy condra
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 1:05 AM, Phlip wrote: > On Jun 3, 9:54 pm, Steven D'Aprano cybersource.com.au> wrote: > >> I don't know what rubbish ISPs you're dealing with > > You've heard of a little fly-by-night outfit called AT&T? They were my ISP as of three weeks ago. Has something changed since t

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-03 Thread Steven D'Aprano
numeric work in Python, for Italian-speakers, for game development, etc. This is the way it should be, and I don't fear a competing general Python forum or forums. If they're better than comp.lang.python, they will attract more users and become the place to be, and if they're not, they won't. -- Steven -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python Forum

2010-06-03 Thread Phlip
On Jun 3, 9:54 pm, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > I don't know what rubbish ISPs you're dealing with You've heard of a little fly-by-night outfit called AT&T? -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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