Re: how to automate java application in window using python

On 09/29/2016 01:18 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 11:46:59 PM UTC+13, Ned Batchelder wrote: >> This is just getting rude. Let's please drop it. > > Do you have anything substantive to contribute? He's already contributed far more to this list, and to

Re: how to automate java application in window using python

On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 05:18 am, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 11:46:59 PM UTC+13, Ned Batchelder > wrote: >> This is just getting rude. Let's please drop it. > > Do you have anything substantive to contribute? Infinitely more than you. *plonk* -- Steve

Re: how to automate java application in window using python

On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 5:18 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 11:46:59 PM UTC+13, Ned Batchelder wrote: >> This is just getting rude. Let's please drop it. > > Do you have anything substantive to contribute? Yes. He contributed the

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On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 11:46:59 PM UTC+13, Ned Batchelder wrote: > This is just getting rude. Let's please drop it. Do you have anything substantive to contribute? (... crickets ...) -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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On Wednesday, September 28, 2016 at 8:00:09 PM UTC-4, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 11:54:46 AM UTC+13, Emile van Sebille > wrote: > > Which worked for me! You should try it. Sloppy programming has always > > been unreliable. > > So it is clear you don’t have

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On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 11:54:46 AM UTC+13, Emile van Sebille wrote: > Which worked for me! You should try it. Sloppy programming has always > been unreliable. So it is clear you don’t have an answer to the OP’s question after all. Just some vague, meaningless generalities. --

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On 09/28/2016 02:52 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 4:57:10 AM UTC+13, Emile van Sebille wrote: My point was that it is possible to automate windows reliably as long as the programming is robust. Sounds like circular reasoning. Which worked for me! You

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On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 4:57:10 AM UTC+13, Emile van Sebille wrote: > My point was that it is possible to automate windows reliably as long as the > programming is robust. Sounds like circular reasoning. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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On 09/23/2016 05:02 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: On Thursday, September 22, 2016 at 8:34:20 AM UTC+12, Emile wrote: Hmm, then I'll have to wait longer to experience the unreliability as the handful of automated gui tools I'm running has only been up 10 to 12 years or so. You sound like you

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On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 6:47:27 PM UTC+12, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: > Still, sometimes you just need to get the job done and it doesn't matter how. That is why the situation continues; because you keep showing a willingness to put up with it. --

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On Thursday, September 22, 2016 at 8:34:20 AM UTC+12, Emile wrote: > Hmm, then I'll have to wait longer to experience the unreliability as > the handful of automated gui tools I'm running has only been up 10 to 12 > years or so. You sound like you have a solution for the OP, then. --

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On 09/18/2016 06:37 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 11:32:25 AM UTC+12, Michael Torrie wrote: One I've used is AutoIt. Like I said, this kind of thing can never

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On Tue, 20 Sep 2016, 02:47 meInvent bbird, wrote: > can it contorl Maplesoft's maple which is a java executable file? > I don't know maple so I can't answer that. Which programming language an application is written in isn't really relevant for pywinauto, it's the

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On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 10:42:16 PM UTC+12, Paul Rubin wrote: > > Lawrence D’Oliveiro writes: >> > I'm quite sure there are Java bindings for all those protocols. Are any of these supported by the Java app in question? Doesn’t seem like it. >> Like I said, trying to automate a GUI is a

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On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 at 1:11:20 PM UTC+12, Ned Batchelder wrote: > We get it, you don't like GUIs. Who says I don’t like GUIs ? I just assume we’ve moved on from the 1990s, when they were considered to be the

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Hi Matt Wheeler, can it contorl Maplesoft's maple which is a java executable file? On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 5:02:15 PM UTC+8, Matt Wheeler wrote: > On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, 08:12 meInvent bbird, <jobmatt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > how to automate java application in w

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On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 4:24:31 PM UTC-4, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 11:29:24 AM UTC+12, Ned Batchelder wrote: > > > > On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 6:45:32 PM UTC-4, Lawrence D’Oliveiro > > wrote: > >> > >> A CLI gives the user power over the

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On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 11:29:24 AM UTC+12, Ned Batchelder wrote: > > On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 6:45:32 PM UTC-4, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >> >> A CLI gives the user power over the computer. While a GUI is a great way to >> give the computer, and proprietary software companies,

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Am 19.09.16 um 00:45 schrieb Lawrence D’Oliveiro: On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 11:02:57 PM UTC+12, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: Am 18.09.16 um 12:26 schrieb Lawrence D’Oliveiro: Considering the power available in Free Software toolkits like ImageMagick, G’MIC and so on, not to mention

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On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 11:32:25 AM UTC+12, Michael Torrie wrote: > One I've used is AutoIt. Like I said, this kind of thing can never work reliably... --

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On 09/18/2016 02:22 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > I know one blind computer user who is quite capable with the command > line, and who has little fondness for GUI apps. You should see how > quickly he works... Good for him. This is very good that there are tools like that that he and many

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On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 6:45:32 PM UTC-4, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > A CLI gives the user power over the computer. While a GUI is a great way to > give the computer, and proprietary software companies, power over the user. This is completely beside the point of the original question.

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On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 11:02:57 PM UTC+12, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: > > Am 18.09.16 um 12:26 schrieb Lawrence D’Oliveiro: > >> Considering the power available in Free Software toolkits like >> ImageMagick, G’MIC and so on, not to mention libraries accessible >> from Python itself, let

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On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 8:00:43 AM UTC+12, Michael Torrie wrote: > > On 09/18/2016 04:03 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > >> Like I said, trying to automate a GUI is a waste of time. GUIs are >> designed for humans, not computers, to use. > > Well then we have a huge problem. Especially

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On Monday, September 19, 2016 at 2:12:14 AM UTC+12, Chris Angelico wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 8:03 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > >> Like I said, trying to automate a GUI is a waste of time. GUIs are designed >> for humans, not computers, to use. > > Okay, then. Come up with a way to

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On 09/18/2016 04:03 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > Like I said, trying to automate a GUI is a waste of time. GUIs are > designed for humans, not computers, to use. Well then we have a huge problem. Especially for users who are visually-impaired. Fortunately almost all GUIs (Windows, Linux, and

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Steve D'Aprano writes: >> Automation doesn't simulate button presses > Rather than saying that it *doesn't*, it might be better to say that it > doesn't *necessarily* simulate button presses. I'm no Windoze guru but I always understood Automation (sometimes written

Re: how to automate java application in window using python

On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 8:03 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > Like I said, trying to automate a GUI is a waste of time. GUIs are designed > for humans, not computers, to use. Okay, then. Come up with a way to end-to-end-test a GUI application without some form of GUI

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On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 08:42 pm, Paul Rubin wrote: > Lawrence D’Oliveiro writes: >>> lot of ways: OLE and COM objects back in the day, .NET currently, >> None of the different ways of which are either a) compatible or b) >> widely supported. Particularly not in Java, as the

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Am 18.09.16 um 12:26 schrieb Lawrence D’Oliveiro: On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 10:13:41 PM UTC+12, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: Am 18.09.16 um 12:03 schrieb Lawrence D’Oliveiro: Like I said, trying to automate a GUI is a waste of time. GUIs are designed for humans, not computers, to use.

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Lawrence D’Oliveiro writes: >> lot of ways: OLE and COM objects back in the day, .NET currently, > None of the different ways of which are either a) compatible or b) > widely supported. Particularly not in Java, as the OP was asking. I'm quite sure there are Java bindings

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On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 10:13:41 PM UTC+12, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: > > Am 18.09.16 um 12:03 schrieb Lawrence D’Oliveiro: > >> Like I said, trying to automate a GUI is a waste of time. GUIs are >> designed for humans, not computers, to use. > > You don't always have a choice.

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Am 18.09.16 um 12:03 schrieb Lawrence D’Oliveiro: Like I said, trying to automate a GUI is a waste of time. GUIs are designed for humans, not computers, to use. You don't always have a choice. Consider batch-processing a number of images (say, 30,000 movie frames) using a proprietary effect

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On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 9:25:53 PM UTC+12, Paul Rubin wrote: > > Lawrence D’Oliveiro writes: > >>> The term "automation" is frequently used in the Windows world to mean >>> programming something that you would otherwise do manually through a GUI... >> >> Which is not something that GUIs

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Lawrence D’Oliveiro writes: >> The term "automation" is frequently used in the Windows world to mean >> programming something that you would otherwise do manually through a GUI... > Which is not something that GUIs are designed for. Therefore it is at > best an unreliable

Re: how to automate java application in window using python

On Thu, 15 Sep 2016, 08:12 meInvent bbird, <jobmatt...@gmail.com> wrote: > how to automate java application in window using python > > 1. scroll up or down of scroll bar > 2. click button > 3. type text in textbox > I would recommend having a look at pywinauto http

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On Sunday 18 September 2016 14:53, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 4:11:49 PM UTC+12, Gregory Ewing wrote: >> The term "automation" is frequently used in the Windows world to mean >> programming something that you would otherwise do manually through a GUI... > >

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On Sunday, September 18, 2016 at 4:11:49 PM UTC+12, Gregory Ewing wrote: > The term "automation" is frequently used in the Windows world to mean > programming something that you would otherwise do manually through a GUI... Which is not something that GUIs are designed for. Therefore it is at best

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Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 10:22:34 PM UTC+12, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: "How do I automate a Java application using Python?" Which is really a meaningless question. “Automation” is what computer programs do. It's not meaningless. The term "automation" is

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On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 10:22:34 PM UTC+12, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: > "How do I automate a Java application using Python?" Which is really a meaningless question. “Automation” is what computer programs do. (Assuming “application” is just another word for “program”.) If the program

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On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 11:57:04 PM UTC-7, meInvent bbird wrote: > On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 2:26:47 AM UTC+8, bream...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 8:13:05 AM UTC+1, meInvent bbird wrote: > > > how to automate java application in w

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15, 2016 at 3:52:41 PM UTC+8, Lawrence > > >> D’Oliveiro wrote: > > >>> On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 7:13:05 PM UTC+12, meInvent > > >>> bbird wrote: > > >>>> how to automate java application in window using python > > >>>> > &

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t 6:55:07 PM UTC+12, meInvent bbird > > wrote: > >> On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 3:52:41 PM UTC+8, Lawrence > >> D’Oliveiro wrote: > >>> On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 7:13:05 PM UTC+12, meInvent > >>> bbird wrote: > >>>>

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us “how to automate java application in window using python” using just 3 steps! But it turns out you have nothing. You are an empty promiser. You are being mean. It is quite evident that English is not his first language, and highly probable that this was actually the question "How

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On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 6:55:07 PM UTC+12, meInvent bbird wrote: > On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 3:52:41 PM UTC+8, Lawrence D’Oliveiro > wrote: >> On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 7:13:05 PM UTC+12, meInvent bbird >> wrote: >>> how to automate java

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On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 2:26:47 AM UTC+8, bream...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 8:13:05 AM UTC+1, meInvent bbird wrote: > > how to automate java application in window using python > > > > 1. scroll up or down of scroll bar > > 2. cl

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On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 3:52:41 PM UTC+8, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 7:13:05 PM UTC+12, meInvent bbird wrote: > > how to automate java application in window using python > > > > 1. scroll up or down of scroll bar > > 2. cl

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On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 8:13:05 AM UTC+1, meInvent bbird wrote: > how to automate java application in window using python > > 1. scroll up or down of scroll bar > 2. click button > 3. type text in textbox wtf? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 7:13:05 PM UTC+12, meInvent bbird wrote: > how to automate java application in window using python > > 1. scroll up or down of scroll bar > 2. click button > 3. type text in textbox Well, don’t leave us in suspense! Give us the link to your blog

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how to automate java application in window using python 1. scroll up or down of scroll bar 2. click button 3. type text in textbox -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list