Raymond Hettinger wrote:
The existing list.pop() API is similar (though it takes an index
value instead of a boolean):
mylist.pop() # default case: pop from last
mylist.pop(0) # other case:pop from first
pop() is somewhat different, because
On 2011-01-19, geremy condra debat...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:54 PM, rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com wrote:
And were the hell is Steve Holden? Why has he not weighed in on these
(or any) discussions. He (Steve Holden) is second in command to the
entire community. Yet we
On Jan 19, 9:18 am, Grant Edwards inva...@invalid.invalid wrote:
And an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup (which has even less of a chain of
command than a mailing list).
Moderated status has nothing to do with it. The fact is that the
elite no longer feel it necessary to care about the troubles of
On Wednesday, January 19, 2011 7:21:53 PM UTC-4, rantingrick wrote:
On Jan 19, 9:18 am, Grant Edwards inva...@invalid.invalid wrote:
And an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup (which has even less of a chain of
command than a mailing list).
Moderated status has nothing to do with it. The fact
On Jan 19, 5:26 pm, André andre.robe...@gmail.com wrote:
Perhaps it is because they are either busy programming and/or busy
organizing Pycon 2011. Some people do a lot, some people talk/write
a lot. It is hard to find the time to do both ...
Well perhaps. I am not suggesting that these people
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:42 PM, rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com wrote:
Look, i am no perfect person and i do not expect that Steve is either.
However attempting to say that somehow my work --engaging the
community through lively debate in an attempt to re-energize the
Python spirit GvR
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:20:48 -0800 (PST)
Raymond Hettinger pyt...@rcn.com wrote:
On Jan 17, 6:51 pm, nn prueba...@latinmail.com wrote:
...But the api on this baffles me a bit:
d = OrderedDict.fromkeys('abcde')
d.move_to_end('b', last=False)
''.join(d.keys)
'bacde'
I
On Jan 18, 6:46 am, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
Design considerations? Where were they discussed?
They were never discussed with the bulk of this community and that is
part of what i want to change. We have a very small group of folks
making all the decisions and that is fine.
On 18/01/2011 16:27, rantingrick wrote:
On Jan 18, 6:46 am, Antoine Pitrousolip...@pitrou.net wrote:
Design considerations? Where were they discussed?
They were never discussed with the bulk of this community and that is
part of what i want to change. We have a very small group of folks
On Jan 18, 10:54 am, MRAB pyt...@mrabarnett.plus.com wrote:
Decisions are made after open discussion (although we're not sure about
move to end :-)). You shouldn't complain about not being consulted if
you don't take the time to join in...
Well don't get wrong i want to join in --not that i
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 09:10:48 -0800 (PST)
rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com wrote:
Well don't get wrong i want to join in --not that i have all the
solutions--
Take a look at http://docs.python.org/devguide/#contributing
--
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
On Jan 18, 11:56 am, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 09:10:48 -0800 (PST)
rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com wrote:
Well don't get wrong i want to join in --not that i have all the
solutions--
Take a look athttp://docs.python.org/devguide/#contributing
On Jan 18, 12:20 am, Raymond Hettinger pyt...@rcn.com wrote:
On Jan 17, 6:51 pm, nn prueba...@latinmail.com wrote:
...But the api on this baffles me a bit:
d = OrderedDict.fromkeys('abcde')
d.move_to_end('b', last=False)
''.join(d.keys)
'bacde'
I understand that end could
On 1/18/2011 9:10 AM rantingrick said...
On Jan 18, 10:54 am, MRABpyt...@mrabarnett.plus.com wrote:
Decisions are made after open discussion (although we're not sure about
move to end :-)). You shouldn't complain about not being consulted if
you don't take the time to join in...
Well don't
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:33, rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 18, 11:56 am, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 09:10:48 -0800 (PST)
rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com wrote:
Well don't get wrong i want to join in --not that i have all the
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 10:33:45 -0800 (PST)
rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jan 18, 11:56 am, Antoine Pitrou solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011 09:10:48 -0800 (PST)
rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com wrote:
Well don't get wrong i want to join in --not that i have
On Jan 18, 12:55 pm, Emile van Sebille em...@fenx.com wrote:
On 1/18/2011 9:10 AM rantingrick said...
On Jan 18, 10:54 am, MRABpyt...@mrabarnett.plus.com wrote:
Decisions are made after open discussion (although we're not sure about
move to end :-)). You shouldn't complain about
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 13:22, rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for offering a suggestion it was very welcome however i need to
emphasize that what i am proposing is sort of community discussion
suggestion box. Like a Python Suggestions group or something. Where
any and all
On 18/01/2011 19:22, rantingrick wrote:
On Jan 18, 12:55 pm, Emile van Sebilleem...@fenx.com wrote:
On 1/18/2011 9:10 AM rantingrick said...
On Jan 18, 10:54 am, MRABpyt...@mrabarnett.plus.comwrote:
Decisions are made after open discussion (although we're not sure about
move to end
On 1/18/2011 11:27 AM, rantingrick wrote:
On Jan 18, 6:46 am, Antoine Pitrousolip...@pitrou.net wrote:
Design considerations? Where were they discussed?
I far as I know, nowhere until that post in this thread.
They were never discussed with the bulk of this community and that is
part of
On 2011-01-18, MRAB pyt...@mrabarnett.plus.com wrote:
On 18/01/2011 19:22, rantingrick wrote:
Thanks for offering a suggestion it was very welcome however i need to
emphasize that what i am proposing is sort of community discussion
suggestion box. Like a Python Suggestions group or something.
On Jan 18, 3:05 pm, MRAB pyt...@mrabarnett.plus.com wrote:
The Python community are volunteers. Nothing gets done until someone
volunteers to do it. The suggestion box is your idea. Why don't you
set it up and report back?
Agreed, i would gladly accept you nominating me as the Suggestion Box
On Jan 18, 3:07 pm, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
On 1/18/2011 11:27 AM, rantingrick wrote:
When proposed features are listed on the tracker, as I think this one
should have been, anyone who registers can comment. Real names are
strongly preferred (and required for elevated tracker and
On 1/18/2011 6:22 PM, rantingrick wrote:
This was a strong statement and it was meant to be strong.
However, it was falso.
We cannot even discuss the tracker until we fix this abomination
called c.l.py.
I have nothing directly to do with c.l.p and care nothing for it. I read
the
Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2011-01-18, MRAB pyt...@mrabarnett.plus.com wrote:
On 18/01/2011 19:22, rantingrick wrote:
...
The Python community are volunteers. Nothing gets done until someone
volunteers to do it. The suggestion box is your idea. Why don't you
set it up and report back?
He
And were the hell is Steve Holden? Why has he not weighed in on these
(or any) discussions. He (Steve Holden) is second in command to the
entire community. Yet we have yet to hear a peep from this fella. What
gives Steve?
And if Steve is too busy, who is next in the chain of command? Who is
On Jan 18, 5:44 pm, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
I have nothing directly to do with c.l.p and care nothing for it. I read
the gmane.comp.python.general mirror of python-list, which filters out
some of the worse of the input from c.l.p. I mostly focus on getting
real work done on the
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:54 PM, rantingrick rantingr...@gmail.com wrote:
And were the hell is Steve Holden? Why has he not weighed in on these
(or any) discussions. He (Steve Holden) is second in command to the
entire community. Yet we have yet to hear a peep from this fella. What
gives
I somehow missed this before. I like most of the additions from
Raymond Hettinger. But the api on this baffles me a bit:
d = OrderedDict.fromkeys('abcde')
d.move_to_end('b', last=False)
''.join(d.keys)
'bacde'
I understand that end could potentially mean either end, but would
move_to_end
On Jan 17, 8:51 pm, nn prueba...@latinmail.com wrote:
I somehow missed this before. I like most of the additions from
Raymond Hettinger. But the api on this baffles me a bit:
If we are not careful with all these additions we could end up with
a language like ruby which has wasteful methods to
On Jan 17, 6:51 pm, nn prueba...@latinmail.com wrote:
I somehow missed this before. I like most of the additions from
Raymond Hettinger. But the api on this baffles me a bit:
d = OrderedDict.fromkeys('abcde')
d.move_to_end('b', last=False)
''.join(d.keys)
'bacde'
I understand that end
On Jan 17, 6:51 pm, nn prueba...@latinmail.com wrote:
...But the api on this baffles me a bit:
d = OrderedDict.fromkeys('abcde')
d.move_to_end('b', last=False)
''.join(d.keys)
'bacde'
I understand that end could potentially mean either end, but would
move_to_end and move_to_beginning
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