Re: proposed Python logo

2006-04-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The simplest and most widely known Monty Python image I can think of is a dead parrot. So maybe an upside-down parrot? Could be nice and colorful too, not to mention memorable. It is true that many won't make the connection between some kind of Monty Python image and the Python language, as they w

Re: proposed Python logo

2006-04-24 Thread Steve Holden
Michael Tobis wrote: > A more Monty sort of Python logo would be fine with me. A flying sheep > perhaps? An exploding penguin? A giant hedgehog? A dog license with the > word "dog" crossed out and "cat" written in crayon? A great big book on > how to put your budgie down? > > This http://www.infor

Re: proposed Python logo

2006-04-24 Thread Steve Holden
Michael Tobis wrote: >>Not that I'm disagreeing, but how to you rate "resonance with the product"? > > > Hmm, I'm not a marketing professional, but this is would I would do > with my focus groups: > > Ask people familar with the product to name what they like about the > image, and what they lik

Re: proposed Python logo

2006-04-24 Thread Steve Holden
Michael Tobis wrote: > "Is this the right room for an argument?" > > http://geosci.uchicago.edu/~tobis/snake.png > Is that a gun in its pocket, or is it just glad to see me? (with apologies to Mae West). regards Steve -- Steve Holden +44 150 684 7255 +1 800 494 3119 Holden Web LLC/Ltd

Re: proposed Python logo

2006-04-22 Thread EP
Michael Yanowitz wrote: > How about having something from Monty Python in the logo rather >than something snakelike. Python was named after Monty Python and not >the snake. Snakes also don't appear friendly to me. > I think the new logo, while professionally done (bravo!) is unmemmorable. And

Re: proposed Python logo

2006-04-22 Thread jarrells
Mike, Excellent artwork! I don't like reinventing the wheel so I propose we reuse someone else's work. I propose something like: http://www.dvdweb.co.uk/reviewgfx/bompfc1.jpg which symbolizes Python's ability to quickly implement many coding ideas or: http://www.phill.co.uk/comedy/python/pyth

Re: proposed Python logo

2006-04-22 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dennis Lee Bieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 16:13:53 -0700, "Carl J. Van Arsdall" ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> declaimed the following in comp.lang.python: > >> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> > >> > Six words: copyright violation ... trademark violatio

Re: proposed Python logo

2006-04-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2006-04-21, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Sincy Python wasn't named after the snake, why the insistence >>on using a snake in the logo? > ... >>I think something Monty Python related would be bette

Re: proposed Python logo

2006-04-21 Thread Carl J. Van Arsdall
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Sincy Python wasn't named after the snake, why the insistence >> on using a snake in the logo? >> > ... > >> I think something Monty Python related would be better. How >> abo

Re: proposed Python logo

2006-04-21 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Michael Tobis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I think the colon as snake-eyes thing is a big win I liked that bit too. Whatever changes are made, that should be kept. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: proposed Python logo

2006-04-21 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Sincy Python wasn't named after the snake, why the insistence >on using a snake in the logo? ... >I think something Monty Python related would be better. How >about a nice can of spam? Six words: copyright violation ... t

Re: proposed Python logo

2006-04-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2006-04-21, Michael Tobis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~roth/bilder/mpfc/GUMBY3.JPG > chap? > > I'm not sure that conveys the intended gravitas to the > corporate community, though. Monty Python never was very big on "corporate community gravitas", so th

Re: proposed Python logo

2006-04-21 Thread Michael Tobis
A more Monty sort of Python logo would be fine with me. A flying sheep perhaps? An exploding penguin? A giant hedgehog? A dog license with the word "dog" crossed out and "cat" written in crayon? A great big book on how to put your budgie down? This http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~roth/bilder/m

Re: proposed Python logo

2006-04-21 Thread Tim Parkin
BartlebyScrivener wrote: >>>(and it's an older version of the logo) because >>>you can get T-Shirts from cafepress.com/pydotorg and any profits go to >>>the psf. > > > I just ordered some stuff from cafe press, are you saying I'm getting > an old version of the logo? > An alternate 'collectors'

Re: proposed Python logo

2006-04-21 Thread BartlebyScrivener
>> (and it's an older version of the logo) because >> you can get T-Shirts from cafepress.com/pydotorg and any profits go to >> the psf. I just ordered some stuff from cafe press, are you saying I'm getting an old version of the logo? rick -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: proposed Python logo

2006-04-21 Thread Tim Parkin
Michael Tobis wrote: > > That said, and conceding that the first impression is positive, I don't > see how it represents Python. More to the point, the longer I look at > it the less I like it, and I would NOT wear it on a T-shirt. > over 25 people disagree with you so far and thats without any

Re: proposed Python logo

2006-04-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2006-04-21, Michael Tobis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (The main thing I dislike about Python is that the documentation is too > sketchy. Well, Monty Python was a pretty sketchy show... [sorry] > The best snake-and-language logos I have seen are the Twisted-Matrix > one and the PyCon one. S

Re: proposed Python logo

2006-04-21 Thread A.M. Kuchling
On 21 Apr 2006 09:17:52 -0700, BartlebyScrivener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I'd like some variation of used as a logo. > That has real potential, but I bet it's trademarked. It's taken from a Renaissance painting (http://witcombe.sbc.edu/davincicode/bronzino

Re: proposed Python logo

2006-04-21 Thread BartlebyScrivener
>> Eric Idle is going to be at my favorite Borders bookstore in half an >> hour. Should I go ask him? (I'm not going to do that; it's just an odd >> coincidence from my point of view.) Speaking of coincidences, you might ask him if Python's Integrated Development Environment is named after him. ;

Re: proposed Python logo

2006-04-21 Thread Michael Tobis
> Not that I'm disagreeing, but how to you rate "resonance with the product"? Hmm, I'm not a marketing professional, but this is would I would do with my focus groups: Ask people familar with the product to name what they like about the image, and what they like about the product, and look for an

Re: proposed Python logo

2006-04-21 Thread Michael Tobis
> Sorry dude, but it looks like a hairdryer! I'm afraid you have a point :-/ . > I think that the current logo is fine. Much more professional than the old > image. Yes, it is a MUCH more professional rendering than the old image, and it leaves a MUCH better first impression of the homepage. T

Re: proposed Python logo

2006-04-21 Thread Michael Tobis
Don't you think the Python Boys ought to have something to say about it? Eric Idle is going to be at my favorite Borders bookstore in half an hour. Should I go ask him? (I'm not going to do that; it's just an odd coincidence from my point of view.) I think there are trademark issues similar to th

Re: proposed Python logo

2006-04-21 Thread BartlebyScrivener
>> I'd like some variation of used as a logo. That has real potential, but I bet it's trademarked. rick -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: proposed Python logo

2006-04-21 Thread Simon Brunning
On 4/21/06, Michael Yanowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I think something from Monty Python (I haven't watched it recently > to know what would be ideal) would be more appropriate than an ugly > reptile which is usually associated with evil and our reason for leaving > the Garden of Eden. +1.

Re: proposed Python logo

2006-04-21 Thread RK
That's a good try... Can we get some street pros? http://www.graffitifonts.com/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: proposed Python logo

2006-04-21 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2006-04-21, Michael Tobis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Too rigid-looking somehow. > > Hey, I'm an amateur... There are lots of variations on the concept I > can think of. I want someone with a lot of design talent *and a little > familiarity with the language* to take enough interest to have

Re: proposed Python logo

2006-04-21 Thread Michael Tobis
> Too rigid-looking somehow. Hey, I'm an amateur... There are lots of variations on the concept I can think of. I want someone with a lot of design talent *and a little familiarity with the language* to take enough interest to have a go at it. At least (unlike the tadpoles) it has some resonanc

Re: proposed Python logo

2006-04-21 Thread BartlebyScrivener
No matter what you do, "Python" is going to sum up the image of a powerful snake. I suppose you could change the name to "Monty," if you wanted more humor and more of a reference to Monty Python, or maybe "Bring Out Your Dead." Personally I like the snake associations and the notion that you're jo

Re: proposed Python logo

2006-04-21 Thread Gerard Flanagan
Michael Yanowitz wrote: > How about having something from Monty Python in the logo rather > than something snakelike. Python was named after Monty Python and not > the snake. Snakes also don't appear friendly to me. > I used to have rats as pets. Snakes are murderers of rats. Which I Never mind

RE: proposed Python logo

2006-04-21 Thread Michael Yanowitz
il 21, 2006 6:31 AM To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: proposed Python logo Sorry dude, but it looks like a hairdryer! Imagine it at 16x16 pixels or smaller, and it'll look like little more than a circle with two sticks. The current image scales well. I think that the current logo is fine. M

Re: proposed Python logo

2006-04-21 Thread Ant
Sorry dude, but it looks like a hairdryer! Imagine it at 16x16 pixels or smaller, and it'll look like little more than a circle with two sticks. The current image scales well. I think that the current logo is fine. Much more professional than the old image. The + formation is positive enough, and

Re: proposed Python logo

2006-04-21 Thread Lawrence D'Oliveiro
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Michael Tobis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >"Is this the right room for an argument?" > >http://geosci.uchicago.edu/~tobis/snake.png Too rigid-looking somehow. I think get rid of the straight right-angle lines. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-l

Re: proposed Python logo

2006-04-20 Thread BartlebyScrivener
I like the tadpoles. Yours looks like a phonograph needle, circa 1960. Just my opinion. rick -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

proposed Python logo

2006-04-20 Thread Michael Tobis
"Is this the right room for an argument?" http://geosci.uchicago.edu/~tobis/snake.png ok, so my execution is pretty crude, but you can at least see my idea. I trust you to imagine it professionally executed in cheerful colors. Advantages of proposed logo over existing logo --