Re: Running issues

2024-04-05 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 4:40 PM shannon makasale via Python-list < python-list@python.org> wrote: > Hi there, > My name is Shannon. I installed Python 3.12 on my laptop a couple months > ago, but realised my school requires me to use 3.11.1. > > I uninstalled 3.12 and installed 3.11.1. > >

Re: Question(s)

2023-10-26 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 11:47 AM Michael Torrie via Python-list wrote: > > On 10/26/23 10:41, Michael Torrie wrote: > > By the way you definitely can step > > through MicroPython code one line at a time with a remote debugger, say > > with Visual Studio Code. > > I meant to edit that bit out.

Re: Question(s)

2023-10-26 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 11:43 AM Michael Torrie via Python-list wrote: > > On 10/26/23 06:34, o1bigtenor wrote: > > Interesting - - - - ". . . see if it runs." - - - that's the issue! > > When the code is accessing sensors there isn't an easy way to > > check

Re: Question(s)

2023-10-26 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 3:56 PM Jim Schwartz wrote: > Does this link help? It seems to have a Linux package here. > > Eclipse Packages | The Eclipse Foundation - home to a global community, > the Eclipse IDE, Jakarta EE and over 350 open source projects... >

Re: Question(s)

2023-10-26 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 11:58 AM Michael F. Stemper via Python-list wrote: > > On 25/10/2023 05.45, o1bigtenor wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 8:35 PM Chris Angelico via Python-list > > wrote: > > >> 3. Catch the failure before you commit

Re: Question(s)

2023-10-26 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 10:19 AM Michael Torrie via Python-list wrote: > > On 10/25/23 05:51, o1bigtenor via Python-list wrote: > > Looks like I have another area to investigate. (grin!) > > Any suggestions? > > Seems to me you're trying to run before you have learned to

Re: Question(s)

2023-10-26 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 9:10 AM Dieter Maurer wrote: > > o1bigtenor wrote at 2023-10-25 08:29 -0500: > > ... > >It would appear that something has changed. > > > >Went to the Eclipse download page, downloaded and verified (using sha-512). > >Expanded softwa

Re: Question(s)

2023-10-25 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 7:56 AM Dieter Maurer wrote: > > o1bigtenor wrote at 2023-10-25 07:50 -0500: > >> There are several others, > >> e.g. "ECLIPSE" can be used for Python development. > > > >Is 'Eclipse' a Windows oriented IDE? > > No. &g

Re: Question(s)

2023-10-25 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 7:00 AM Dieter Maurer wrote: > > o1bigtenor wrote at 2023-10-25 06:44 -0500: > >On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 6:24?AM Dieter Maurer wrote: > > ... > >> There are different kinds of errors. > >> > >> Some can be avoided by using an

Re: Question(s)

2023-10-25 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 6:20 AM Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 at 21:46, o1bigtenor wrote: > > > 2. Catch the failure as you save. We have a lot of tools that can help > > > you to spot bugs. > > > > Tools like this for p

Re: Question(s)

2023-10-25 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 6:24 AM Dieter Maurer wrote: > > o1bigtenor wrote at 2023-10-24 07:22 -0500: > > ... > >Is there a way to verify that a program is going to do what it is > >supposed to do even > >before all the hardware has been assembled and installed and t

Re: Question(s)

2023-10-25 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 6:25 AM Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 at 21:53, o1bigtenor wrote: > > > > Hmm - - - - now how can I combine 'Hamming codes' > > and a raid array? > > > > TIA > > Normally you wouldn't. But

Re: Question(s)

2023-10-25 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 9:36 PM AVI GROSS via Python-list wrote: > > Agreed, Chris. There are many methods way better than the sort of RAID > architecture I supplied as AN EXAMPLE easy to understand. But even so, if a > hard disk or memory chip is fried or a nuclear bomb takes out all servers in

Re: Question(s)

2023-10-25 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 8:43 PM Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 at 12:20, AVI GROSS via Python-list > wrote: > > Consider an example of bit rot. I mean what if your CPU or hard disk has a > > location where you can write a byte and read it back multiple times and

Re: Question(s)

2023-10-25 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
A post with useful ideas - - - - thanks (it generates some questions! interleaved) On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 8:35 PM Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 at 12:11, Thomas Passin via Python-list > wrote: > > This doesn't mean that no program can ever be proven to halt, nor

Re: Question(s)

2023-10-24 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 6:09 PM Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote: > snip > > By now you have read many responses that basically say that you cannot > prove that a given program has no errors, even apart from the hardware > question. Even if it could be done, the kind of specification that you

Re: Question(s)

2023-10-24 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 5:28 PM Rob Cliffe wrote: > > There is no general way to prove that a program is "correct". Or even > whether it will terminate or loop endlessly. > These are of course theoretical statements of computer science. But > they can be rigorously proven. (Sorry if I'm just

Re: Question(s)

2023-10-24 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 4:54 PM Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote: > > On 2023-10-24, Dan Purgert via Python-list wrote: > > On 2023-10-24, o1bigtenor wrote: > >> Greetings > >> > >> (Sorry for a nebulous subject but dunno how to have a

Question(s)

2023-10-24 Thread o1bigtenor via Python-list
Greetings (Sorry for a nebulous subject but dunno how to have a short title for a complex question.) I have been using computers for a long time but am only beginning my foray into the galaxy of programming. Have done little to this point besides collection of information on sensors and working

Re: Request for assistance (hopefully not OT)

2022-05-21 Thread o1bigtenor
On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 6:20 AM o1bigtenor wrote: > > Greetings > > I was having space issues in my /usr directory so I deleted some > programs thinking that the space taken was more an issue than having > older versions of the program. > Found the responses to my requ

Request for assistance (hopefully not OT)

2022-05-17 Thread o1bigtenor
Greetings I was having space issues in my /usr directory so I deleted some programs thinking that the space taken was more an issue than having older versions of the program. So one of the programs I deleted (using rm -r) was python3.9. Python3.10 was already installed so I thought (naively!!!)

Re: Python/New/Learn

2022-05-07 Thread o1bigtenor
On Sat, May 7, 2022 at 3:29 AM Peter J. Holzer wrote: > > On 2022-05-07 14:07:53 +1200, Greg Ewing wrote: > > On 7/05/22 12:27 pm, Stefan Ram wrote: > > >So, one might actually be able to learn the pronunciation > > >of a foreign language from text in a book better than from > > >an

Re: Python/New/Learn

2022-05-06 Thread o1bigtenor
As we're now discussing tutorial methods - - - - On Thu, May 5, 2022 at 8:57 PM Chris Angelico wrote: > > On Fri, 6 May 2022 at 09:53, Grant Edwards wrote: > > > > On 2022-05-05, Mats Wichmann wrote: > > > > > Without having any data at all on it, just my impressions, more > > > people these

Re: on floating-point numbers

2021-09-03 Thread o1bigtenor
On Thu, Sep 2, 2021 at 2:27 PM Chris Angelico wrote: > On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 4:58 AM Hope Rouselle wrote: > > > > Hope Rouselle writes: > > > > > Just sharing a case of floating-point numbers. Nothing needed to be > > > solved or to be figured out. Just bringing up conversation. > > > > > >

Re: do ya still use python?

2021-04-21 Thread o1bigtenor
On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 6:26 PM Terry Reedy wrote: > > On 4/20/2021 4:32 AM, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote: > > > We see the same trend on the tutor list, traffic has dropped off > > by a factor of 3-5 times what it was at its peak. And the questions > > are changing too, fewer basic things

Re: Repair Install of 64 bit python

2021-04-15 Thread o1bigtenor
On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 8:03 PM Dodson, Matthew wrote: > > Hi, > > Having an issue after installing 64 bit python. Can't pip install any > packages. Get the error "No module named pip". > No expert here but to me that reads like you need to install 'pip'. On linux I need to make sure its pip3

Re: Website

2021-04-15 Thread o1bigtenor
On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 8:59 AM Calvin Spealman wrote: > > The PSF guidelines on trademark usage are generous and well documented > here: https://www.python.org/psf/trademarks/ > > Good luck with your website! > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 11:43 AM Rainyis wrote: > > > Hello, > > I am Sergio

Re: Website

2021-04-15 Thread o1bigtenor
On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 8:54 AM Dan Ciprus (dciprus) wrote: > > Well I did not get the point of his question, obviously so apologies for > being sarcastic at the beginning. This triggered my reaction because of the > history of "funny" questions which you can find in this mailing list. > Agreed

Re: Website

2021-04-15 Thread o1bigtenor
On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 7:40 AM Dan Ciprus (dciprus) via Python-list wrote: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergio_Llorente > > wow .. you made it that far ? > > Jokes aside .. why are you asking for a permission to get a domain ? I would > love to read a deeper explanation what made you send

Re: questions re: calendar module

2020-08-02 Thread o1bigtenor
On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 2:08 PM Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > > On Sat, 1 Aug 2020 19:24:41 -0500, o1bigtenor > declaimed the following: > > > > >It is very disappointing - - - -suggests that thinking outside the space of > >one year is somehow deprecated. Frust

Re: questions re: calendar module

2020-08-02 Thread o1bigtenor
On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 2:28 PM Richard Damon wrote: > > On 8/2/20 12:58 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > > Yet follows what most /print/ calendars contain (though some companies > > put the last four months of the current year in a 4-up page, before doing > > one month per page for the new

Re: questions re: calendar module

2020-08-02 Thread o1bigtenor
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 11:33 PM dn via Python-list wrote: > > On 02/08/2020 12:24, o1bigtenor wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 6:29 PM dn via Python-list > > wrote: > >> On 01/08/2020 23:36, o1bigtenor wrote: > >>> On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 1:29 AM dn v

Re: questions re: calendar module

2020-08-01 Thread o1bigtenor
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 7:24 PM o1bigtenor wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 6:29 PM dn via Python-list > wrote: > > > > On 01/08/2020 23:36, o1bigtenor wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 1:29 AM dn via Python-list > > > mailto:python-list@python.org>&g

Re: questions re: calendar module

2020-08-01 Thread o1bigtenor
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 6:29 PM dn via Python-list wrote: > > On 01/08/2020 23:36, o1bigtenor wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 1:29 AM dn via Python-list > > mailto:python-list@python.org>> wrote: > > > > On 31/07/2020 02:52, o1bigtenor wrote: > >

Re: questions re: calendar module

2020-08-01 Thread o1bigtenor
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 9:29 AM o1bigtenor wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 6:58 AM Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> wrote: > > > > o1bigtenor wrote: > > > > >>>> import calendar > > >>>> print (calendar.calendar(2024,1,1,2,8))

Re: questions re: calendar module

2020-08-01 Thread o1bigtenor
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 6:58 AM Peter Otten <__pete...@web.de> wrote: > > o1bigtenor wrote: > > >>>> import calendar > >>>> print (calendar.calendar(2024,1,1,2,8)) > > > I would like to show something like 2024 through the end of 2028. > &

Re: questions re: calendar module

2020-08-01 Thread o1bigtenor
On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 1:29 AM dn via Python-list wrote: > On 31/07/2020 02:52, o1bigtenor wrote: > > I regularly work in planning through multiple years at once. > > This means that I like to have a lot of stuff available in a calendar > > function. > > Python see

questions re: calendar module

2020-07-30 Thread o1bigtenor
Greetings I regularly work in planning through multiple years at once. This means that I like to have a lot of stuff available in a calendar function. Python seems to be locked when I need to display more than 1 year at a time. I don't see a way to display something like 3 years worth of

Re: Questioning the effects of multiple assignment

2020-07-08 Thread o1bigtenor
On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 2:30 AM Mike Dewhirst wrote: > > Original message From: dn via Python-list < > python-list@python.org> Date: 7/7/20 16:04 (GMT+10:00) To: 'Python' < > python-list@python.org> Subject: Questioning the effects of multiple > assignment TLDR; if you are a

Re: Formal Question to Steering Council (re recent PEP8 changes)

2020-07-04 Thread o1bigtenor
On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 10:41 AM Random832 wrote: > On Fri, Jul 3, 2020, at 08:48, Rhodri James wrote: > > As I said in my preamble, it doesn't matter whether you believe that is > > true or think it's utter bollocks. I asked the question to get the > > Steering Council's opinion, not anyone

Re: Formal Question to Steering Council (re recent PEP8 changes)

2020-07-03 Thread o1bigtenor
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 7:05 PM Michael Torrie wrote: > > On 7/2/20 4:46 PM, Random832 wrote: > > It's possible that this wasn't explained clearly enough in the commit > > message itself (though I would argue it was definitely adequately > > explained in the ensuing on-list discussion, and wonder

Re: Pycharm Won't Do Long Underscore

2020-06-24 Thread o1bigtenor
On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 1:54 PM Tony Kaloki wrote: > > Thanks for all your explanations, everyone. Hopefully, I'll know better next > time I come across a similar case. Now, to try and understand the rest of > Python... > Your last sentence - - - - I'm right there with you! (Reading it made me

Re: Unsubscribe to python list

2020-06-04 Thread o1bigtenor
On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 12:14 AM DL Neil via Python-list wrote: > > On 4/06/20 4:59 PM, Meet Agrawal wrote: > > I want to unsubscribe from python list and would like to stop recieving > > mails from the same. > > > At the bottom of your request (as reflected), this, and all over > messages to the

Re: Python, Be Bold! - The Draft

2020-01-06 Thread o1bigtenor
On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 4:23 AM Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > > Note: Prepared a draft on the previous discussion, motivated by the vision > of > an era where the world swarms in Python apps. This draft is not a PEP, at > least > not yet. It's structure approaches a PEP but takes liberties as

Re: Python, Be Bold!

2020-01-01 Thread o1bigtenor
On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 1:24 AM Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote: > > Greetings list, > > I wanted to make some suggestion about the Python interpreter but since > it's more high-level, i decided to post it here instead of python-ideas. > > Well, concerning distributing Python apps, a natural way is

Re: TechRepublicDEVELOPERCXO JPMorgan's Athena has 35 million lines of Python code, and won't be updated to Python 3 in time

2019-09-14 Thread o1bigtenor
On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 3:39 AM Larry Martell wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 1:37 PM Skip Montanaro > wrote: > > > > > > https://www.techrepublic.com/google-amp/article/jpmorgans-athena-has-35-million-lines-of-python-code-and-wont-be-updated-to-python-3-in-time/ > > > > I doubt this is

Re: unable to to install paython

2019-08-29 Thread o1bigtenor
On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 12:51 AM Alemu Geletew via Python-list wrote: > Hmm - - - - somehow you think that other members of this list can somehow understand what you did do - - - - without you even telling them. As my crystal ball (for future readings and such) hasn't ever worked it

Re: question on the 'calendar' function

2018-11-21 Thread o1bigtenor
On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 2:47 PM Calvin Spealman wrote: > > Python and the standard library are all tools, but you still need to use > those tools to accomplish something. > This is am understanding. What I'm doing is making tools to make tools to make tools to make tools to make decisions and

Re: question on the 'calendar' function

2018-11-21 Thread o1bigtenor
On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 8:09 AM Calvin Spealman wrote: > > You really have the pieces you need here. You can print a whole year's > calendar with calendar.formatyear() or a single month with > calendar.monthcalendar(). If you need multiple years, call the first more > than once with each year

Re: question on the 'calendar' function

2018-11-21 Thread o1bigtenor
On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 2:37 AM wrote: > > On Tuesday, November 20, 2018 at 7:53:06 PM UTC+1, o1bigtenor wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 11:50 AM Schachner, Joseph > > wrote: > > > > > > It's possible I don't understand the question. The calendar functions

Re: question on the 'calendar' function

2018-11-20 Thread o1bigtenor
On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 12:09 PM Ben Finney wrote: > > o1bigtenor writes: > > > I am in the process of learning my first computer programming language > > (unless g-code counts and then it is my second - - - grin). It > > definitely is a big world out there. >

Re: question on the 'calendar' function

2018-11-20 Thread o1bigtenor
On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 11:50 AM Schachner, Joseph wrote: > > It's possible I don't understand the question. The calendar functions are > NOT limited to this year or any limited range. > > Example: > import calendar > print( calendar.monthcalendar(2022, 12) ) > > Prints lists of dates in each

question on the 'calendar' function

2018-11-20 Thread o1bigtenor
Greetings I am in the process of learning my first computer programming language (unless g-code counts and then it is my second - - - grin). It definitely is a big world out there. The calendar function has a lot of versatility and shows care in its development. There is one area where I don't