>> I quite agree that it would be best to have a solution guaranteed
>> to work in the future. However, the standard makes it very clear
>> that these sort of behaviours may change in the future. So it not
>> possible to use something like _XOPEN_SOURCE >= 600 with any
>> confidence.
>
>
On 04/02/2006, at 12:51 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
> All this POSIX compliance stuff was broken on Mac OS X 10.2, then
> Apple 'fixed' it in 10.3, but it regressed in 10.4
From what I have seen on the particular issue of strcasecmp(), that
is backwards. The headers were non-compliant in 10.3 an
very cool! thanks! - bk
On 2/3/06, bear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've taken the patch and submitted it to the PyXML sourceforge project
> and included a link to your mailing list archive entry for reference.
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Hi Bob,
On Feb 3, 2006, at 6:07 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
>
> On Feb 3, 2006, at 6:02 PM, Kevin Ollivier wrote:
>
>> On Feb 3, 2006, at 5:29 PM, Bill Northcott wrote:
>>
>>> On 04/02/2006, at 12:00 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
This is exactly what TigerPython24Fix is for:
http://undefined.org/
Hi Bill,
On Feb 3, 2006, at 4:33 PM, Bill Northcott wrote:
> Hi Kevin
>
> On 04/02/2006, at 11:08 AM, Kevin Ollivier wrote:
>>> As I read the Opengroup document, Posix 200112L and Xopen 600
>>> have been converged. Older standards would not be the same and
>>> certainly older versions of Xop
On Feb 3, 2006, at 6:02 PM, Kevin Ollivier wrote:
> On Feb 3, 2006, at 5:29 PM, Bill Northcott wrote:
>
>> On 04/02/2006, at 12:00 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
>>> This is exactly what TigerPython24Fix is for:
>>> http://undefined.org/python/#TigerPython24Fix
>>
>> As far as I can see this patch is a
Hi Bill,
On Feb 3, 2006, at 5:29 PM, Bill Northcott wrote:
> On 04/02/2006, at 12:00 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
>>> The issue only arises using Python 2.4.x on Tiger. It does not
>>> arise
>>> with Python 2.3.x on Tiger or Python 2.4.x on Panther (MacOS 10.3.x)
>>
>> On top of that, it should onl
On Feb 3, 2006, at 5:29 PM, Bill Northcott wrote:
> On 04/02/2006, at 12:00 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
>>> The issue only arises using Python 2.4.x on Tiger. It does not
>>> arise
>>> with Python 2.3.x on Tiger or Python 2.4.x on Panther (MacOS 10.3.x)
>>
>> On top of that, it should only happen i
On Feb 3, 2006, at 5:18 PM, Christopher Barker wrote:
> Bob Ippolito wrote:
>> You're really confused here.
>
> Yes, I know. I was hoping for some clarification. Let me try it
> this way:
>
> I am running OS-X 10.4
>
> I need Python >= 2.4.1
>
> I *need* to build packages that will run on my ma
On 04/02/2006, at 12:00 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
>> The issue only arises using Python 2.4.x on Tiger. It does not arise
>> with Python 2.3.x on Tiger or Python 2.4.x on Panther (MacOS 10.3.x)
>
> On top of that, it should only happen if you're using a Python
> 2.4.x build on Tiger that was compi
Bob Ippolito wrote:
> You're really confused here.
Yes, I know. I was hoping for some clarification. Let me try it this way:
I am running OS-X 10.4
I need Python >= 2.4.1
I *need* to build packages that will run on my machine, and I can give
binaries to others running 10.4. I can also give the
On Feb 3, 2006, at 4:39 PM, Bill Northcott wrote:
> On 04/02/2006, at 11:28 AM, Christopher Barker wrote:
>> I'm a bit confused where the problem is here. I've just installed
>> OS-X 10.4, and I'm trying to decide where to go with my python
>> version. I was planning on going all 10.4, rather tha
On Feb 3, 2006, at 4:21 PM, Christopher Barker wrote:
> Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>> Even more important that versioning is that eggs give you an easy way
>> to uninstall software (although I'm not quite sure about scripts).
>
> It really does look like eggs are the way of the future.
>
>>> Bob's "o
On 04/02/2006, at 11:28 AM, Christopher Barker wrote:
> I'm a bit confused where the problem is here. I've just installed
> OS-X 10.4, and I'm trying to decide where to go with my python
> version. I was planning on going all 10.4, rather than using a
> python framework built for 10.3. Howeve
Hi Kevin
On 04/02/2006, at 11:08 AM, Kevin Ollivier wrote:
>> As I read the Opengroup document, Posix 200112L and Xopen 600 have
>> been converged. Older standards would not be the same and
>> certainly older versions of Xopen might have strcasecmp and
>> friends in string.h. OTOH higher v
Guys,
I'm a bit confused where the problem is here. I've just installed OS-X
10.4, and I'm trying to decide where to go with my python version. I was
planning on going all 10.4, rather than using a python framework built
for 10.3. However, I need wxPython, so I'm interested in this thread.
Bil
Hi Bill,
On Feb 3, 2006, at 3:57 PM, Bill Northcott wrote:
>>> PS I still have the issue from my other posting which Adriano
>>> posted in September.
>>
>> Could you give me a thread to look up so that I can follow up?
>
> I spent a bit more time on this, but I have to quit now.
>
> The proble
Ronald Oussoren wrote:
> Even more important that versioning is that eggs give you an easy way
> to uninstall software (although I'm not quite sure about scripts).
It really does look like eggs are the way of the future.
>> Bob's "official unofficial" 2.4.1 framework build for 10.3 (this will
>>
Hi Bill,
On Feb 3, 2006, at 12:13 PM, Bill Northcott wrote:
> On 04/02/2006, at 3:52 AM, Kevin Ollivier wrote:
>>> So I added more alternative conditions to wx/string.h:46 thus:
>>> #if defined(HAVE_STRCASECMP_IN_STRINGS_H) || _POSIX_C_SOURCE ==
>>> 200112L || _XOPEN_SOURCE == 600
>>>
>>> This
>> PS I still have the issue from my other posting which Adriano
>> posted in September.
>
> Could you give me a thread to look up so that I can follow up?
I spent a bit more time on this, but I have to quit now.
The problem here is that if is included with _POSIX_C_SOURCE
defined, the gamm
I've taken the patch and submitted it to the PyXML sourceforge project
and included a link to your mailing list archive entry for reference.
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1423775&group_id=6473&atid=306473
Bob Ippolito wrote:
> Here's the PyXML patch that gets expat by
Here's the PyXML patch that gets expat byteorder from pyconfig.h. I
don't know who the maintainer is nor do I have any interest in
subscribing to xml-sig (this CC will probably bounce, or get stuck in
mod queue for days/weeks/forever). If you give a damn about PyXML
please make sure to ge
The method that cElementTree uses to determine byte order is not
reliable on some platforms such as Mac OS X or Darwin where you may
be compiling for multiple architectures at the same time (in my
particular case, i386 and ppc). The best way to determine byte order
is either at runtime or
On Feb 3, 2006, at 12:05 PM, Jeremy Kloth wrote:
> On Friday, February 03, 2006 12:51 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
>> Packages that do something with sys.byteorder at setup.py time are
>> probably going to be broken also... but I've never seen that either.
>
> Any package that wraps Expat will probabl
On Friday, February 03, 2006 12:51 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
> Packages that do something with sys.byteorder at setup.py time are
> probably going to be broken also... but I've never seen that either.
Any package that wraps Expat will probably be using sys.byteorder as Expat
needs to know the byte
On 04/02/2006, at 3:52 AM, Kevin Ollivier wrote:
>> So I added more alternative conditions to wx/string.h:46 thus:
>> #if defined(HAVE_STRCASECMP_IN_STRINGS_H) || _POSIX_C_SOURCE ==
>> 200112L || _XOPEN_SOURCE == 600
>>
>> This definitely works on MacOS X 10.4 and I don't see how it can
>> brea
On Feb 3, 2006, at 11:41 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
>
> On Feb 3, 2006, at 11:01 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>
>>
>> On 3-feb-2006, at 20:00, Bob Ippolito wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 3, 2006, at 10:52 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>>>
On 3-feb-2006, at 5:23, Bob Ippolito wrote:
> It fixe
On Feb 3, 2006, at 10:59 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>
> On 3-feb-2006, at 18:28, Bob Ippolito wrote:
>
>> On Jan 27, 2006, at 12:19 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 27-jan-2006, at 8:46, Kevin Ollivier wrote:
>>>
On Jan 26, 2006, at 10:55 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
> Some exten
On Feb 3, 2006, at 11:01 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>
> On 3-feb-2006, at 20:00, Bob Ippolito wrote:
>
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2006, at 10:52 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 3-feb-2006, at 5:23, Bob Ippolito wrote:
>>>
It fixes a couple of the endian issues in the Mac modules
(platfo
On 3-feb-2006, at 20:00, Bob Ippolito wrote:
On Feb 3, 2006, at 10:52 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
On 3-feb-2006, at 5:23, Bob Ippolito wrote:
It fixes a couple of the endian issues in the Mac modules
(platform.mac_ver, applesingle, gestalt, and the OSType converter
functions)
How do y
On Feb 3, 2006, at 10:52 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>
> On 3-feb-2006, at 5:23, Bob Ippolito wrote:
>
>> It fixes a couple of the endian issues in the Mac modules
>> (platform.mac_ver, applesingle, gestalt, and the OSType converter
>> functions)
>
> How do you convert four character codes? Is
On 3-feb-2006, at 18:28, Bob Ippolito wrote:
On Jan 27, 2006, at 12:19 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
On 27-jan-2006, at 8:46, Kevin Ollivier wrote:
On Jan 26, 2006, at 10:55 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
Some extensions aren't going to build cleanly universal, and
most users probably aren't goin
On 3-feb-2006, at 5:23, Bob Ippolito wrote:
It fixes a couple of the endian issues in the Mac modules
(platform.mac_ver, applesingle, gestalt, and the OSType converter
functions)
How do you convert four character codes? Is 'abcd' big endian or
platform-native?
Ronald
smime.p7s
Descrip
On 3-feb-2006, at 18:59, Christopher Barker wrote:
Andrew Jaffe wrote:
Anyway, is there a 'best' way to install python packages on a
mac nowadays? It seems that there at least three possibilities:
- plain old setup.py install
- bdist_mpkg
- eggs (in which case I realize I'm not sure
On Feb 3, 2006, at 9:59 AM, Christopher Barker wrote:
> Andrew Jaffe wrote:
>> Anyway, is there a 'best' way to install python packages on a
>> mac nowadays? It seems that there at least three possibilities:
>>
>>- plain old setup.py install
>>- bdist_mpkg
>>- eggs (in which case I re
On 3-feb-2006, at 18:09, Bob Ippolito wrote:
On Feb 3, 2006, at 8:57 AM, Andrew Jaffe wrote:
I originally posted this in a different thread, but I realize that
the
first post was about 10 levels deep, so possibly ignored by people
who
might care or be able to help (or possibly just ignor
On 3-feb-2006, at 6:31, Daniel Lord wrote:
I am a neophyte when it comes to Cocoa and ObjC so forgive me if his
question is nonsensical and the answer is obvious to you seasoned
professionals. I decided to tackle a formidable task: learning Cocoa
and Objective-C by approaching them through Pyth
Andrew Jaffe wrote:
> Anyway, is there a 'best' way to install python packages on a
> mac nowadays? It seems that there at least three possibilities:
>
>- plain old setup.py install
>- bdist_mpkg
>- eggs (in which case I realize I'm not sure I know exactly *how* to
> do this)
The "Be
On Jan 27, 2006, at 12:19 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>
> On 27-jan-2006, at 8:46, Kevin Ollivier wrote:
>
>> On Jan 26, 2006, at 10:55 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
>>
>>> Some extensions aren't going to build cleanly universal, and most
>>> users probably aren't going to have all the SDKs installed s
On Feb 3, 2006, at 8:57 AM, Andrew Jaffe wrote:
> I originally posted this in a different thread, but I realize that the
> first post was about 10 levels deep, so possibly ignored by people who
> might care or be able to help (or possibly just ignored as a dumb
> question). Anyway, is there a 'be
Hi All,
I originally posted this in a different thread, but I realize that the
first post was about 10 levels deep, so possibly ignored by people who
might care or be able to help (or possibly just ignored as a dumb
question). Anyway, is there a 'best' way to install python packages on a
mac no
Hi Bill,
On Feb 2, 2006, at 11:53 PM, Bill Northcott wrote:
> On 03/02/2006, at 6:32 PM, Kevin Ollivier wrote:
>>> I found that _POSIX_C_SOURCES is defined in pyconfig.h in Python 2.4
>>> but not 2.3. So this problem will only arise using Python 2.4 on
>>> Tiger. Python 2.4 on Panther, or 2.3 o
On Friday, February 03, 2006, at 01:00PM, Bob Ippolito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>>
>> I've made a private branch of python24-maint via SVK that's probably
>> most of the way there. It fixes a couple of the endian issues in the
>> Mac modules (platform.mac_ver, applesingle, gestalt, and the OS
On Feb 2, 2006, at 8:23 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
>
> On Jan 27, 2006, at 8:31 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>
>>
>> On 27-jan-2006, at 16:38, bear wrote:
>>
>>> Ronald Oussoren wrote:
On 27-jan-2006, at 4:22, bear wrote:
> Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>> That part is easy enough. If
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