Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] 2.4.3 Python Universal Binary Pystone Comparison

2006-04-06 Thread Bob Ippolito
It really has nothing to do with Xcode (or even GCC).  This is all autoconf, but I'm pretty sure it was just that Ronald had an OPT environment variable set when he built it because I can't reproduce.-bobOn Apr 6, 2006, at 10:38 PM, Paul Berkowitz wrote: Maybe someone should ask on the Xcode mailin

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] 2.4.3 Python Universal Binary Pystone Comparison

2006-04-06 Thread Paul Berkowitz
Title: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] 2.4.3 Python Universal Binary Pystone Comparison Maybe someone should ask on the Xcode mailing list. Almost every question is being answered there by the lead Xcode Tools Apple engineer, Chris Espinosa. -- Paul Berkowitz From: Bob Ippolito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date:

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] 2.4.3 Python Universal Binary Pystone Comparison

2006-04-06 Thread Bob Ippolito
I can't reproduce this when I configure from the universal trunk, maybe Ronald had an OPT environment variable set when he built it?-bobOn Apr 6, 2006, at 10:34 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:Ok, I see what the problem is, because the Universal python is also half as fast on my PPC.It appears that the univ

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] 2.4.3 Python Universal Binary Pystone Comparison

2006-04-06 Thread Bob Ippolito
Ok, I see what the problem is, because the Universal python is also half as fast on my PPC.It appears that the universal build is not using any compiler optimizations at all, where a normal build is -O3.  I'm not quite sure where/why this is happening (autoconf is evil), but I'm sure someone will f

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] 2.4.3 performance, Macbook Pro vs iBook G4 12"

2006-04-06 Thread Ted Leung
On Apr 6, 2006, at 10:00 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote: > On Apr 6, 2006, at 9:44 PM, Alex Martelli wrote: > >> I'm wondering about comparative performance -- shouldn't a Macbook >> Pro 2.0 GHz be VASTLY faster than a humble iBook G4 12" (1.33 GHz PPC >> G4)? >> >> And yet, pybench 1.0 tells me: 7806 ms

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] 2.4.3 Python Universal Binary Pystone Comparison

2006-04-06 Thread Ted Leung
I just realized that I only sent this to Shane, so for the whole list (and Alex)Hmm.  Here's three of those...[sprout:2065]> ./python.exe -c "from test.pystone import pystones; print pystones()"(1.22, 40983.606557377047)=== 2006-04-06 18:0

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] 2.4.3 performance, Macbook Pro vs iBook G4 12"

2006-04-06 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Apr 6, 2006, at 9:44 PM, Alex Martelli wrote: > I'm wondering about comparative performance -- shouldn't a Macbook > Pro 2.0 GHz be VASTLY faster than a humble iBook G4 12" (1.33 GHz PPC > G4)? > > And yet, pybench 1.0 tells me: 7806 ms on the iBook, 7721 on the > Macbook; also, the iBook measu

[Pythonmac-SIG] 2.4.3 performance, Macbook Pro vs iBook G4 12"

2006-04-06 Thread Alex Martelli
I'm wondering about comparative performance -- shouldn't a Macbook Pro 2.0 GHz be VASTLY faster than a humble iBook G4 12" (1.33 GHz PPC G4)? And yet, pybench 1.0 tells me: 7806 ms on the iBook, 7721 on the Macbook; also, the iBook measures at 22026 pystones/sec, the Macbook at 22624. Tha

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] linker error with UB 2.4.3

2006-04-06 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Apr 6, 2006, at 8:57 PM, Stefan Werner wrote: > when trying to link my application against the universal binary build > linked from Python.org, I get an error about these undefined symbols: > > /usr/bin/ld: Undefined symbols: > _fstatvfs referenced from Python expected to be defined in libSyst

[Pythonmac-SIG] linker error with UB 2.4.3

2006-04-06 Thread Stefan Werner
Hi, when trying to link my application against the universal binary build linked from Python.org, I get an error about these undefined symbols: /usr/bin/ld: Undefined symbols: _fstatvfs referenced from Python expected to be defined in libSystem _lchown referenced from Python expected to be define

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] 2.4.3 Python Universal Binary Pystone Comparison

2006-04-06 Thread Daniel Lord
Just for fun I got the svn source and compiled it on my 1.8Ghz Dual G5 running 10.4.6 to add a data point:daniello ~/WIP/Python-Builds/py-24 ./python.exe -c "from test.pystone import pystones; print pystones()"(1.6199, 30864.1975308642)Better than the 1.86 GHZ MacBookPro but surprisingl

[Pythonmac-SIG] NSUserDefaults still causing crash on MOSXI

2006-04-06 Thread Zachery Bir
Still getting this with Mac OS X Intel, using Ronald's new 2.4.3 Universal Python and Bob's recent py2app work (pulled in with trunk of PyObjC). It will now at least get NSUserDefaults.SharedDefaults(), but dies trying to get the persistent domain. I've uploaded a new TestUserDefaults.zip

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] 2.4.3 Python Universal Binary Pystone Comparison

2006-04-06 Thread Shane Holloway (IEEE)
Nice.  Very jealous about the Intel MacBook Pros.  :)  You both better put them to good use!  ;)Have either of you tried building the 2.4 release branch and running pystones from it?For those reading who may not know how from Terminal::svn co http://svn.python.org/projects/python/branches/release24

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] 2.4.3 Python Universal Binary Pystone Comparison

2006-04-06 Thread Jordan Mantha
And here is mine on a 1.83GHz 17" Intel iMac:$ python -VPython 2.4.3$ python -c "from test.pystone import pystones; print pystones()"(1.99, 25125.628140703517)-Jordan ManthaOn Apr 6, 2006, at 2:36 PM, Ted Leung wrote:FWIW here are 3 runs from 1.83GHz MacBook Pro[sprout:2132]> /Library/Framework

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] 2.4.3 Python Universal Binary Pystone Comparison

2006-04-06 Thread Ted Leung
FWIW here are 3 runs from 1.83GHz MacBook Pro[sprout:2132]> /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/bin/python -c "from test.pystone import pystones; print pystones()"(2.0405, 24509.803921568622)=== 2006-04-06 14:

[Pythonmac-SIG] 2.4.3 Python Universal Binary Pystone Comparison

2006-04-06 Thread Shane Holloway (IEEE)
I was just wondering if anyone else had compared pystones on their box?  I downloaded the latest Universal Build from the python.org and found things to be a bit sluggish.  So I ran the pystones test to quickly gauge things, and noticed that things are indeed running about 1/3 of what they should b

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: ActivePython 2.4.3.11 is now available

2006-04-06 Thread Trent Mick
[Ronald Oussoren wrote] > > Ronald, you mentioned a while back that you intended to integrate > > that work with the main Python SVN. Is that still your intention? > > Yes it is, but only for the trunk. Cool, thanks. Trent -- Trent Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: ActivePython 2.4.3.11 is now available

2006-04-06 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 6-apr-2006, at 18:46, Trent Mick wrote: > > Ronald, you mentioned a while back that you intended to integrate > that work > with the main Python SVN. Is that still your intention? Yes it is, but only for the trunk. Ronald ___ Pythonmac-SIG mailli

[Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: ActivePython 2.4.3.11 is now available

2006-04-06 Thread Trent Mick
I'm happy to announce that ActivePython 2.4.3.11 is now available from: http://www.ActiveState.com/Products/ActivePython/ This release is a maintenance/update release for existing platforms. See the announcement on python-announce for full details. Currently ActivePython provides separate Int