Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] bin and version

2006-04-09 Thread w chun
one tricky thing to watch out for is not just where the executable is installed, but where the libraries are. you may have 2 executables sharing the same library, you may not. on my mac, python is installed in /sw/bin and /usr/local/bin, and the libraries are in /sw/lib, /usr/local/lib, and /Libr

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] NSZombies eating my brain

2006-04-09 Thread Saggau
- initWithPythonObject:(PyObject*)v;{ self = [super init]; if (!self) return nil; Py_INCREF(v); Py_XDECREF(value); value = v; return self;}In gdb the variable v is showing up as 0x0.  when I break on [OC_PythonArray initWithPythonObject:]  (There was a typo in my original post, I think)  ;) Could t

[Pythonmac-SIG] prevent Tkinter changing app's menu?

2006-04-09 Thread Andrew Trevorrow
Our app uses embedded Python to allow users to run arbitrary scripts. Scripts that import Tkinter run fine on Windows, but on Mac OS X there is a serious problem. After a script does "root = Tk()" our app's menus are permanently changed in the following way: - The top item in the application menu

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Install location

2006-04-09 Thread Timothy Reaves
On Apr 9, 2006, at 8:32 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote: > > On Apr 9, 2006, at 4:49 PM, Timothy Reaves wrote: > >> Why is it the installer at http://www.python.org/download/releases/ >> 2.4.3/ install into /Applications ? Why does it not install as a >> framework? ActiveState Python does, although

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Install location

2006-04-09 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Apr 9, 2006, at 4:49 PM, Timothy Reaves wrote: > Why is it the installer at http://www.python.org/download/releases/ > 2.4.3/ install into /Applications ? Why does it not install as a > framework? ActiveState Python does, although they still user /usr/ > local/bin for the links. It pu

[Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-09 Thread has
Bill Janssen wrote: > > I appreciate what you want to do, but IMHO the correct way to have > > gone about this would have been to design the new Python logo from > > the start to be appropriate as an OS X icon. > >Again, logos and icons are two different things. Incorporating the >logo as an elem

[Pythonmac-SIG] Install location

2006-04-09 Thread Timothy Reaves
Why is it the installer at http://www.python.org/download/releases/ 2.4.3/ install into /Applications ? Why does it not install as a framework? ActiveState Python does, although they still user /usr/ local/bin for the links. ___ Pythonmac-

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-09 Thread Daniel Lord
I was hoping some encouragement might result in eventual simplification of the logo. I guess I'll repeat myself from a while back: why don't we just take blue and yellow official logo and 'aqua-fy' it a bit. Look at what Apple did for the Windows logo for BootCamp. Simple, elegant twist on th

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-09 Thread Bill Janssen
Bob Ippolito writes: > While not ideal, we should probably just move forward with an icon > set based on the new python.org logo. It's better than what we have, > and it doesn't "realistically" depict a snake. I'm still open to new > ideas and mockups, but it just doesn't seem pragmatic to

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-09 Thread Bill Janssen
Kevin, > If we do what you propose, what we would have is two 'elements', > let's call them, in the final icon which serve the same purpose: > identifying Python. It's redundant, if not confusing, and since the > icons use different color schemes and designs, it will hurt the icon > visibi

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-09 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Apr 9, 2006, at 8:20 AM, Paul Berkowitz wrote: > On 4/7/06 2:55 PM, "Kevin Ollivier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Here is a 3D mock- >> up by Kenichi Yoshida (http://www.kenichiyoshida.jp/), who I've been >> working with on the icon. >> >> http://kevino.theolliviers.com/0406_macpython.jpg >

[Pythonmac-SIG] NSZombies eating my brain

2006-04-09 Thread Saggau
Hi again folks.System version = 2.3.5 (#1, Mar 20 2005, 20:38:20) [GCC 3.3 20030304 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 1809)](Built-in)PyObjC from SVN as of about a week ago.So I've done this:   from PyObjCTools import Signals    Signals.dumpStackOnFatalSignal()   from PyObjCTools import Debugging   Debug

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-09 Thread Paul Berkowitz
On 4/7/06 2:55 PM, "Kevin Ollivier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here is a 3D mock- > up by Kenichi Yoshida (http://www.kenichiyoshida.jp/), who I've been > working with on the icon. > > http://kevino.theolliviers.com/0406_macpython.jpg Personally, I find it far, far too fussy and busy. All thos

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] bin and version

2006-04-09 Thread Daniel Lord
On Apr 8, 2006, at 7:59 PM, linda.s wrote: > Hi, > I installed quite a few python versions in my computer and I want to > know where they are located. > Should i check them in the bin folder? > If so, why I can not find the bin folder in my home directory? Someone answered the portion regarding

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] bin and version

2006-04-09 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
> On Apr 8, 2006, at 7:59 PM, linda.s wrote: > >> Hi, >> I installed quite a few python versions in my computer and I want to >> know where they are located. >> Should i check them in the bin folder? >> If so, why I can not find the bin folder in my home directory? Am 2006-04-09 um 02:25 schrieb C

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-09 Thread has
Kevin Ollivier wrote: >Here is a 3D mock- up by Kenichi Yoshida (http://www.kenichiyoshida.jp/), who >I've been working with on the icon. > >http://kevino.theolliviers.com/0406_macpython.jpg > >Thoughts? Comments? It's crap. Kenichi's done some really nice icons. This is not one of them. Sorry