Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] No arbitrary precison math on Mac-tel say it ain't so!

2006-04-22 Thread Alex Martelli
On Apr 22, 2006, at 4:06 PM, Daniel Lord wrote: ... > cc -arch ppc -arch i386 -Wl,-syslibroot,/Developer/SDKs/ > MacOSX10.4u.sdk -o static static.o -L. -lanswer ... > /usr/bin/ld: for architecture ppc > /usr/bin/ld: warning static.o cputype (7, architecture i386) does > not match cputyp

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] No arbitrary precison math on Mac-tel say it ain't so!

2006-04-22 Thread Alex Martelli
On Apr 22, 2006, at 1:29 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: ... > On other platforms I'd say that gmp should be compiled with -fPIC > in the compiler flags. On OSX however this That's one of the things I tried (adding CFLAGS=-fPIC to the ./ configure invocation), uselessly. > should be the defaul

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-22 Thread Daniel Lord
On Apr 22, 2006, at 15:49, has wrote: > Jacob Rus wrote: > >> Ronald Oussoren wrote: >>> Now that we (almost) have new icons it would be great if someone >>> could have >>> a look at IDLE and at the very least writes down what could be >>> done to make >>> it a better OSX citizen. Actual pa

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] No arbitrary precison math on Mac-tel say it ain't so!

2006-04-22 Thread Daniel Lord
On Apr 22, 2006, at 14:51, Alex Martelli wrote: > > On Apr 22, 2006, at 1:51 PM, Daniel Lord wrote: >... >> So the answer, IMHO and I could be wrong since I am very new to >> this, is one of two choices: >> 1) use 'ld' to produce two separate builds and then use 'lipo' to >> weld them tog

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-22 Thread has
Jacob Rus wrote: >Ronald Oussoren wrote: >>Now that we (almost) have new icons it would be great if someone could have >>a look at IDLE and at the very least writes down what could be done to make >>it a better OSX citizen. Actual patches would of course even be better. If I get a chance, I'll

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] No arbitrary precison math on Mac-tel say it ain't so!

2006-04-22 Thread Alex Martelli
On Apr 22, 2006, at 1:51 PM, Daniel Lord wrote: ... > So the answer, IMHO and I could be wrong since I am very new to > this, is one of two choices: > 1) use 'ld' to produce two separate builds and then use 'lipo' to > weld them together as a 'FAT' dylib or > 2) To use 'cc' to build the dy

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-22 Thread Jordan Krushen
On 4/22/06, Bill Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Alright, one more go with the egg icon. I agree, it did look a bit off: > > > > http://hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/python/prettified-py-icons.png > > That's a great-looking egg! +1 :) J. ___ Pythonmac-

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] No arbitrary precison math on Mac-tel say it ain't so!

2006-04-22 Thread Daniel Lord
On Apr 22, 2006, at 12:36, Alex Martelli wrote: > It's not just gmpy, but anything that needs to be linked as - > bundle, whatever that means exactly. The workings of ld are > slightly arcane -- I did already ask for advice from colleagues who > I thought SHOULD know; for example, Matt Auste

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] on a tangent from new icons

2006-04-22 Thread Brendan Simons
On 21-Apr-06, at 6:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Apr 21, 2006, at 3:08 PM, Jacob Rus wrote: Bob Ippolito wrote: Jacob Rus wrote:    * Do we want different icons for py2applet.app and BuildApplet.app?      What exactly is the difference between these? BuildApplet isn't any good at creating sel

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-22 Thread Bill Janssen
> Jordan Krushen wrote: > > +1 on everything so far, including the recent changes on the egg, but > > the egg still looks odd to me.. it looks like it's sitting on its thin > > end.. would it be possible to flip the ends of the egg? > > Alright, one more go with the egg icon. I agree, it did look

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] No arbitrary precison math on Mac-tel say it ain't so!

2006-04-22 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 22-apr-2006, at 18:50, Alex Martelli wrote: > > Once this idiocy is solved, there is another problem: I STILL can't > link gmpy.so beause I can't make libgmp.a to build properly for > linkage into a -bundle. Specifically (with gmpy.sf.net's current CVS > contents): > > brain:~/alex/gmpy alex

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-22 Thread Jacob Rus
Brendan Simons wrote: > For the build applet, if the grider icon doesn't work, what about > the generic app icon self assembling from bits. Like this: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/133016352/ Ooh, that's kind of neat. I was trying to find pictures of meat grinders, but n

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-22 Thread Jacob Rus
Jordan Krushen wrote: > +1 on everything so far, including the recent changes on the egg, but > the egg still looks odd to me.. it looks like it's sitting on its thin > end.. would it be possible to flip the ends of the egg? Alright, one more go with the egg icon. I agree, it did look a bit off:

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-22 Thread Brendan Simons
On 22-Apr-06, at 4:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Date: April 21, 2006 11:00:22 PM EDT (CA) To: pythonmac-sig@python.org Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup Jacob Rus wrote: How's this then: http://hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/python/prettified-py-icons.png Alright, 2 or 3 of the ic

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-22 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 22-apr-2006, at 20:36, Jacob Rus wrote: > Ronald Oussoren wrote: >>> 3. Let's make sure that python files get useful "kMDItemKind" >>> names. >>> Right now, if I associate one with PythonIDE.app, I get >>> "plain text >>> file" for .pyc, and "Document" for .pyo, which is not us

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-22 Thread has
Jacob Rus wrote: >Alright, I've tried those two changes: >http://hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/python/prettified-py-icons.png > >What do you think? Lovely. has -- http://freespace.virgin.net/hamish.sanderson/ ___ Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG@pytho

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] No arbitrary precison math on Mac-tel say it ain't so!

2006-04-22 Thread Alex Martelli
On Apr 22, 2006, at 11:23 AM, Daniel Lord wrote: ... >> Apple's assembly syntax is totally irrelevant here. The reason make >> check fails is Apple's creative *ld semantics*: an object file inside >> a library file is NOT brought in if the only symbols it satisfies are >> DATA ones. ... >

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-22 Thread Jacob Rus
has wrote: > Definitely getting there. Though the top snake could do with being > a bit lighter. The icon is, first and foremost, a statement that > "this is an application"; the snake logo is just a subtle hint to > say, "by the way, it's built in Python". The eye should be drawn to > the

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-22 Thread Jacob Rus
Ronald Oussoren wrote: >> 3. Let's make sure that python files get useful "kMDItemKind" >> names. >> Right now, if I associate one with PythonIDE.app, I get >> "plain text >> file" for .pyc, and "Document" for .pyo, which is not useful. > That related to the spotlight importer. No,

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] No arbitrary precison math on Mac-tel say it ain't so!

2006-04-22 Thread Daniel Lord
On Apr 22, 2006, at 9:50, Alex Martelli wrote: > >> And GMP doesn't compile on Mac-tel and won't for some time: >> >> The current release is 4.2, released 2006-03-26. It fixes all bugs >> found in 4.1.4, as well as several portability problems. It also >> adds several new features. Note that we ch

[Pythonmac-SIG] New wiki entry on Universal libraries and extensions

2006-04-22 Thread Daniel Lord
I made good on my threat and wrote it up. Wiki's are famous for providing misinformation because anyone can write to them regardless of the veracity of their exposition (e.g. a newb like me). So, if someone doesn't mind, please review my content and let's get anything incorrect fixed. http

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] HFS versus POSIX paths (changed from fixing the documentation)

2006-04-22 Thread Daniel Lord
On Apr 21, 2006, at 3:06, has wrote: > Daniel Lord wrote: > >> I am writing an app combining excel and python/appscript to fetch >> quotes from the web and value stock portfolios . >> But I give up on using appscript with Excel--some things just >> don't work because I think the terminology i

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] No arbitrary precison math on Mac-tel say it ain't so!

2006-04-22 Thread Alex Martelli
On Apr 22, 2006, at 10:01 AM, Charles Hartman wrote: > A new edition of the Nutshell? That is great news! That's the book > I go back to, out of a dozen I've got, most often. Updated for 2.5 > perhaps? Focused on 2.4 (and pointing out what 2.4 added to 2.3, so that by subtraction it should

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] No arbitrary precison math on Mac-tel say it ain't so!

2006-04-22 Thread Charles Hartman
A new edition of the Nutshell? That is great news! That's the book I go back to, out of a dozen I've got, most often. Updated for 2.5 perhaps?Charles HartmanOn Apr 22, 2006, at 12:50 PM, Alex Martelli wrote:Then, I had the deadline for the 2nd ed of the Nutshell, then a   week's vacation at the Gra

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] No arbitrary precison math on Mac-tel say it ain't so!

2006-04-22 Thread Alex Martelli
On Apr 22, 2006, at 1:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > No arbitrary precison math on Mac-tel say it ain't so! It ain't so. > The analog of a single gene pool in nature has come to pass for > arbitrary precison math (APM) for OS X (native not Python). > GMP is 'it' for APM as far as I can t

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-22 Thread has
Jacob Rus wrote: >>http://hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/python/prettified-py-icons.png > >[...]what do people think of the "generic application" icon as a default for >apps created by py2app/py2applet? Definitely getting there. Though the top snake could do with being a bit lighter. The icon is, first

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] on a tangent from new icons

2006-04-22 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 21-apr-2006, at 23:56, Tom Pollard wrote: > > I really don't care what anyone does with it. That's not good enough of inclusion in the distribution ;-). Ronald P.S. I haven't looked at this yet > > Tom > > > > ___ > Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pyth

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] on a tangent from new icons

2006-04-22 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 21-apr-2006, at 22:44, Jacob Rus wrote: > While we're adding a bunch of icons to Mac Python, and editing > Info.plist files, and so on, I think we might as well make a few other > changes: > > 1. If it doesn't already, I think Mac Python should ship with a > python > spotlight importe

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: MacPython icon mockup

2006-04-22 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 21-apr-2006, at 16:14, Jacob Rus wrote: > Zachery Bir wrote: >> glenn andreas wrote: >>> A shaded egg with a python logo decal seems good... >> >> +1 > > How's this then: > > http://hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/python/prettified-py-icons.png These icons look great many thanks to you and anyone else

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] No arbitrary precison math on Mac-tel say it ain't so!

2006-04-22 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Apr 21, 2006, at 10:17 PM, Daniel Lord wrote: > The analog of a single gene pool in nature has come to pass for > arbitrary precison math (APM) for OS X (native not Python). > GMP is 'it' for APM as far as I can tell unless I want to write my > own. > And GMP doesn't compile on Mac-tel and