Lee C
(studying quantum theory, but can't do arithmetic)
On Jun 9, 2005, at 7:38 PM, Russell E Owen wrote:
> At 7:25 PM -0400 2005-06-09, Lee Cullens wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the reply Russel
>>
>> You hit on another problem. I have looked through the Gmane site
>&
eived
no answer yet.
Are you using Gmane successfully and if so how?
Thanks,
Lee C
On Jun 9, 2005, at 2:47 PM, Russell E. Owen wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Lee Cullens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>> I'm switching over from email digests to a n
I'm switching over from email digests to a newsreader and I can't
find a reference for this pyrhonmac-sig list.
For example, I have the lists comp.lang.python and
comp.lang.python.announce setup, but can't find something like
comp.lang.python.pythonmac?
There must be others on this list usi
Matthew,
You might need to remone the line break from the URL - here it is again
http://undefined.org/python/
HTH,
Lee C
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Matthew,
I'm a little confused myself with your question. I assume your
asking about a Mac OS X installation since you posted on the
MacPython list, and I assume you're asking about Python 2.4.1.
I can only tell you what I did, and that is explained on http://
undefined.org/python/
Having
Bob,
Not something I was thinking of using any time soon, but since I ran
across it I wondered what your take might be?
http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/EasyInstall
Thanks,
Lee C
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s I'll have to do some more googling, but it (tentatively) looks like I'm getting back a file ref object as if .data is a default and I have to look at what other methods are available.Thanks again,Lee COn Jun 5, 2005, at 11:02 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:On Jun 5, 2005, at 7:09 PM, Lee Cullens
One of my little utilities needs to know when it encounters links/
aliases.
I can of course detect a Unix symbolic link with os.path.islink
('path') and determine what it points to with os.readlink('path'),
but an Aqua alias only triggers os.isfile and it has a size of zero.
The size is not
longevity (?) issues.
On May 26, 2005, at 8:11 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
> No, the URL was what I meant, but Mail.app has a tendency to inject
> extra spaces (show up as %20) into long URLs. Another client may
> be less stupid about it.
>
> -bob
>
> On May 26, 2005, at 4:57 PM,
Also, for my own projects I place *.pth files in ~/Library/Python/2.4/
site-packages/ (after I woke up with a little help ;')
Where they would be placed otherwise, I'll leave to the experts to
answer.
On May 26, 2005, at 7:57 PM, Lee Cullens wrote:
> Bob's URL didn&#x
Bob's URL didn't work for me, but I think he meant:
http://bob.pythonmac.org/archives/2005/02/06/
On May 26, 2005, at 4:16 PM, Kenneth McDonald wrote:
> According to my (slightly dated) Python In a Nutshell book, I can
> specify python search paths by putting them in a .python.pth file in
> t
Just an obvious point. PayPal is a mute point for those with online
banking and since bill-paying is usually a free enticement, there is
no service charge or fee deducted. If, in addition, Bob's entity had
an A/R account, a physical check mailed locally would not even be
involved.
Lee C
n on the cell-exchanging life
forms we are :~)
My best to all,
Lee C
"Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfils the
same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an
unhealthy state of things." —Winston Churchill.
On May 24, 2005, at 8:32 PM
. They used to be easy to spot because of bad
> spelling and grammar, but they are getting more polished.
>
> I'm not endorsing PayPal, just pointing out that emails about
> account updates are most probably phishing spam.
>
> Larry
>
> On May 24, 2005, at 4:09 PM,
Maybe, for those of us that won't use PayPal, Bob could note a
desired payee and address for a check.
I made a donation with PayPal sometime last year and when several
months ago they sent me something about updating my account, and I
ignored it, their emails became more frequent and frantic
Thanks for the vote of confidence Chris.
On May 24, 2005, at 12:56 AM, Chris Barker wrote:
> Hi Lee,
>
> It looks like you've got it pretty well figured out, but the one
> thing that I'd add is the question of whether there is any need to
> put these in a special directory.
>
> I put all my u
ding the if __name__ == '__main__': block so they
can be run either way.
Thanks for your help,
Lee C
On May 23, 2005, at 10:22 PM, Les Hill wrote:
> On 5/23/05, Lee Cullens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> So what's my problem? Well I know I could reduce th
I wanted to run a python module across a file and tried just double clicking the script, which thanks to Bob's build (I guess) would have worked fine if I had not used a .py file and had not had an arg. Anyway it showed me enough to accomplish what I wanted. I did not want to create a standalone
05, at 12:15 AM, Lee Cullens wrote:
>
>
>> All my hullabaloo about maybe helping with the simpler questions and
>> I can't even wipe yet :~)
>>
>> I forgot how (where) I set up a .pth file back in the Panther and
>> Bob's new right way of including Pyth
imple minded like me :~)
Thanks for the assistance Kevin and I hope you're having a great
weekend,
Lee C
On May 22, 2005, at 9:33 AM, Kevin Dangoor wrote:
> On 5/22/05, Lee Cullens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> What worked (at least so far) was to put a .pth file (containing /
All my hullabaloo about maybe helping with the simpler questions and
I can't even wipe yet :~)
I forgot how (where) I set up a .pth file back in the Panther and
Bob's new right way of including Python 2.4 in Tiger got me all
confused. So I looked back at Bob's notes, got frustrated looking
On May 21, 2005, at 2:52 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
>
> What hasn't been answered recently? :)
>
> -bob
>
>
True enough Bob, though not always obvious to the new Mac/Unix user.
I understand where you are coming from (I was once an "expert" that
others turned to with HP-UX among others) and many
Sorry to be so slow, but I thought one of the experts would reply and
then noticed none had (at least on list).
On May 20, 2005, at 11:36 AM, Jay Mutter wrote:
> I have performed a clean install of Tiger on an ibook and then
> installed the MacPython-OSX-2.4.1 framework build and the
> TigerPy
Python Interest Group Query
I'm aware of the Boston PIG, a smaller one in Amherst and have been
told that there is possibly a PIG in Manchester, NH.
Basically I'm trying to find out if there are any, or any interest in
(or even any other Python users at all :~)) in a PIG in the northern
NE
Oh, and forget package manager,Also see:http://undefined.org/python/http://bob.pythonmac.org/archives/category/python/wxpython/and anywhere else Bob has notes - just do your research before asking a question of him (his bark really is worse than his bite :~)I'm not much more than a "newbie" than yo
I'm not much more than a "newbie" than you, but start with: http://
pythonmac.org/packages/
I'm on Tiger ("clean" install from Panther) and working with Python
2.4 so my starting point was:
MacPython-OSX-2.4.1-1.dmg
TigerPython24Fix-r2.zip
TigerPython23Compat.pkg
If you can sp
Thanks Bob and Russell,
Lee C
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tably does :~)
Lee C
On May 10, 2005, at 9:43 AM, Robert Kern wrote:
> Lee Cullens wrote:
>
>> Clean Tiger install and all other applications reinstalled. All
>> running well.
>>
>> Slowly getting there. So far I have the following up and haven't
&g
Clean Tiger install and all other applications reinstalled. All
running well.
Slowly getting there. So far I have the following up and haven't
encountered a problem yet.
MacPython-OSX-2.4.1-1.dmg
TigerPython24Fix-r2.zip
TigerPython23Compat.pkg
RegexPlor-20050503-Tiger.zip
Nex
Konrad,
Wanted to say thanks. Not packages I;d use every day :~) (more into
engineering modeling) but it looks like things are starting to come
together more in the Mac+Python community.
Together with what Jack started and Bob is doing now, your work is a
real contribution.
Maybe at some po
On May 3, 2005, at 10:46 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
>
> On May 3, 2005, at 10:31 PM, Lee Cullens wrote:
>
>> Been here before, but it's been awhile and can't remember what I used,
>> and anyway that was a PC platform.
>>
>> So, if you use a Regular
On May 3, 2005, at 10:46 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
>
> On May 3, 2005, at 10:31 PM, Lee Cullens wrote:
>
>> Been here before, but it's been awhile and can't remember what I used,
>> and anyway that was a PC platform.
>>
>> So, if you use a Regular
Been here before, but it's been awhile and can't remember what I used,
and anyway that was a PC platform.
So, if you use a Regular Expression tool (PCRE standard) for Python
programming and your development platform is Mac OS X, would you please
help narrow down the search for me. All I seem t
Not being one to jump before I look, I'm waiting on various issues
(like DW) before I upgrade to Tiger. Also, since I have alternating
external HD duplicates, I have decided a "clean" install would be the
most appropriate for going forward.
Specific to this list, I will be putting up Bob's Mac
You asked,
I'm still getting up to speed for some multimedia development, but I've
been using 2.4 on my Mac since Bob put the thing up. I'll continue to
do so with Tiger also.
Lee C
On Apr 27, 2005, at 11:14 PM, Kevin Walzer wrote:
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As I plan to upda
On Apr 18, 2005, at 12:09 PM, Dethe Elza wrote:
Another low-tech solution would be to start a wiki page with known
latest versions, urls to download the latest versions, and the above
script. No reinvention of the wheel needed, just leveraging what we
already have in a different way.
--Deth
Maybe these old eyes are just missing it, but I can't seem to satisfy
my curiosity on the following:
1) Use of GTK+, PyGTK and Gazpacho with Python 2.4 in general
2) GTK+, PyGTK and Gazpacho binaries for Mac OS X in general and more
specifically for MacPython 2.4.1
3) wxPython vs GTK+ as a s
Probably only news to me, but a Mac OS 10.3 wxPython (2.5.5.1) binary
is now up for Python 2.4
(http://wxpython.sourceforge.net/download.php#prerequisites).
I don't see it yet on the list Bob referred me to
(http://pythonmac.org/packages/), but perhaps it will be soon.
Lee C
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Charles Hartman
Professor of English, Poet in Residence
*the Scandroid* is available at:
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http://villex.blogspot.com
On Apr 8, 2005, at 5:43 PM, Lee Cullens wrote:
On Mar 31, 2005, at 11:10 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
On Mar
On Mar 31, 2005, at 11:10 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
On Mar 31, 2005, at 10:59 AM, Charles Hartman wrote:
2. (Then I need to set a path variable to say which one will be used
in various contexts, such as debugging, building with py2app, etc.?)
When typing "python":
- If /usr/bin comes before /usr/l
ad and install the Mac keymap that
Russell Owen just posted here. It reduces the alien feel of X11 a fair
amount.
Charles Hartman
On Apr 6, 2005, at 9:19 PM, Lee Cullens wrote:
Just a followup. I thought since I was the one that complained
_coupled_ with Bob's mention of not much help in pu
Just a followup. I thought since I was the one that complained
_coupled_ with Bob's mention of not much help in pulling it all
together on OS X, that I would see if I was far enough along yet to
prepare the needed Help Viewer resource to include in the pythonIDE
package.
Kevin Walzer gracious
Thanks Kevin,
I've got bookmarks on it, Pydev and Wing, but for now am using the
basics until I "really" need more.
Lee C
On Apr 6, 2005, at 11:59 AM, Kevin Dangoor wrote:
On Mar 31, 2005 2:52 AM, Lee Cullens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
TextWrangler is (to me) too much like i
age and because I'm no longer embarrassed by asking dumb
questions), and many of you veterans will recognize the changing
"playgrounds" syndrome :~)
Thank you,
Lee C
On Apr 5, 2005, at 2:13 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
On Apr 5, 2005, at 8:20 AM, Lee Cullens wrote:
What is a good working
g down the size of executables some of
the Python "components" will involve compile steps. What ever happened
to my "perfect world" dreams :<))
--
Thanks yet again Bob,
Lee C
On Apr 5, 2005, at 2:13 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
On Apr 5, 2005, at 8:20 AM, Lee Cullens wrot
What is a good working environment?
All of what Bob did for us is nice for exploring changes in 2.4 but is
still too much of a WIP. I (as many of you) need to get on with some
development work though and was wondering what basis to work from.
Mostly what I will be doing is prototyping componen
On Apr 5, 2005, at 1:01 AM, Robert Kern wrote:
Lee Cullens wrote:
I try not to get too far off on a tangent, but little things like
this are good learning exercises and you have shortened the time it
will take me to get through it.
Allow me to shorten it further:
Look in Mac/OSX/Doc of the
On Apr 4, 2005, at 11:46 PM, Kevin Walzer wrote:
Lee,
If the code to actually look for the Python documentation is already in
PythonIDE (even as a hack), then it sounds like the only thing that's
missing is the documentation itself.
That is what I tried to say and I'm glad you understood it.
Someon
Bob,
Thanks for clarifying the point before I had an issue with such.
Thought I tried this before but I just tried to import wxPython from
2.3 and 2.
4 and such only worked in 2.3 %) So, I'll just move the 2.5.4.1
binaries I downloaded over to 2.3 also.
You saved me some more head banging.
T
prehensive about Macromedia adopting Blender, though they are
probably not smart enough :~)
Lee C
"God save us from those that would save us." -- Laura Cullens c1945
On Apr 4, 2005, at 10:45 PM, Thomas Juntunen wrote:
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On 04/04/05, Lee Cullen
Forgot to mention I installed both the ansi and unicode binaries of
each (because didn't know what I needed) and all four play well so
far.
On Apr 4, 2005, at 10:50 PM, Lee Cullens wrote:
I had the wxPython 2.5.3.1 binary in
/Applications/Python-2.3/Extras/wxPythonExtras and when I inst
I had the wxPython 2.5.3.1 binary in
/Applications/Python-2.3/Extras/wxPythonExtras and when I installed
Bob's new 2.4 Python I downloaded the new 2.5.4.1 wxPython binary and
installed it in /Applications/Python-2.4/Extras/wxPythonExtras.
With what little I've done with it yet the setup seems
On Apr 4, 2005, at 6:16 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
On Apr 4, 2005, at 16:13, Lee Cullens wrote:
On Apr 4, 2005, at 10:34 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
On Apr 4, 2005, at 10:17, Lee Cullens wrote:
One thing I noticed with your 2.4.1 build is that in the PythonIDE
Help menu "Python Documentation
be too sure of one's own wisdom. It is healthy to be
reminded that the strongest might weaken and the wisest might err."
-- Mahatma Gandhi
"Pay attention. You don't know what disguise your next teacher will be
wearing." -- ?
On Apr 4, 2005, at 10:34 AM, Bob Ippolit
Bob,
One thing I noticed with your 2.4.1 build is that in the PythonIDE Help
menu "Python Documentation" and "Lookup in Python Documentation" are
dimmed out (not available). Such in the 2.3 PythonIDE is still
available though.
This time I did look in the Mac Python FAQ first, but the suggestio
Well Bob - I decided to install your 2.4.1 before I get to a point
where I could screw up something important :~) In an initial pass
through my learning project, all worked well so far. The only thing I
had to do was copy my localized package .pth file to a new folder
~/Library/Python/2.4/s
Thanks yet again Bob.
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ote:
On Mar 31, 2005, at 11:32 PM, Lee Cullens wrote:
OS X 10.3.8 with the Mac Python add ons (and new to both Mac and
Python)
To keep a learning project together I'm creating my module files in a
folder within my account. Not using any fancy IDE yet I brought up
PythonIDE and (of course
OS X 10.3.8 with the Mac Python add ons (and new to both Mac and
Python)
To keep a learning project together I'm creating my module files in a
folder within my account. Not using any fancy IDE yet I brought up
PythonIDE and (of course) the first import of one of my modules failed.
Having re
strike "(why SPE broke)" - a confused old man (TclTkAqua is not
wxPython)
Bravo Bob :~)
already have TclTkAqua (why SPE broke) so I'll give it a whirl
Lee C
On Mar 31, 2005, at 10:12 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
I've put together an "official unofficial" framework build
distribution of Python 2.4.1
Bravo Bob :~)
already have TclTkAqua (why SPE broke) so I'll give it a whirl
Lee C
On Mar 31, 2005, at 10:12 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote:
I've put together an "official unofficial" framework build
distribution of Python 2.4.1 for Mac OS X 10.3 (and later, but that is
not tested yet). It is built using
Just an update Russel,
I was getting bored going through the TextWrangler docs, and
remembering that I had not even looked at the SubEthaEdit docs when I
used it went back to check out what you said further. First, of
course, such is something that can be set in the perfs and per
document. I
On Mar 30, 2005, at 4:42 PM, Russell E. Owen wrote:
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Lee Cullens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thanks François
Not sure I want to get into eclipse just now but I referenced it for
further study.
I seem to remember blowing by SubEthaEdit already, but I w
IDLE and PythonIDE
and text editors with end-of-line conventions and I don't see that
here.
Seems like I was mistaken about SPE's maintenance state also and will
be following up further with that.
Thanks again,
LeeC
On Mar 30, 2005, at 1:42 PM, François Granger wrote:
Le 30/03/05 9
Wanted to say thank you to Bob, Chris and Mark.
I'll let IDLE and SPE just sit there for the time being. Maybe I' get back to SPE after Tiger and see if I can work with them to get it to play well with Mac - we'll see where I'm at.
I've got Leo up and running. It isn't everything I would like in
Relative to my previous post : RE: SPE-OSX IDE with Python on Mac or others?
I'm leery of SPE, so maybe a more general recommendation - an IDE I can "grow with" that has a significant user base, is still reasonably maintained (maybe even evolving). I'll work out how to integrate Python scripts in
Greetings,
Dual 2.5 Power Mac G5; OS X 10.3.8 (retired software engineer in the process of learning Python and new to Mac)
I wanted to kill two birds at once in using an IDE that "supposedly" integrates with Blender3D and can be used otherwise. So I downloaded SPE-OSX which came as a zip folder
Mentioned this before, but just for context - new to Mac and Python but
retired from a software engineering career. Dual 2.5 Power Mac G5; OS
X 10.3.8; Python 2.3; PythonIDE, Package Manager, PythonLauncher, IDLE.
Also have a PC on my LAN, but use it only as a test platform (dislike
MS Window
First, this question has most likely been asked before, but I can't get
the hang of easily searching the archives so any pointers in that
regard would be appreciated also (and limit my dumb questions :~). I'm
new to Mac and the Python community, but I'm retired from a software
engineering care
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