Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Build script for Universal Python

2006-02-15 Thread Bill Janssen
> Using the same icon as the web site is a very good idea. I'd actually rather use a different icon from the Web site, though incorporating design elements from the Web site's icon might be a good idea. I'm eager to see what Kevin and his designers come up with. Bill

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Build script for Universal Python

2006-02-15 Thread Christopher Barker
Ronald Oussoren wrote: > only reason > for having a discussion about the icon anyway is that some people claim > that > a photo-realistic snake-related image will scare some users away. The other reason is that we don't want to use an Apple trademark. > http://beta.python.org/ I don't love it,

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Build script for Universal Python

2006-02-14 Thread Bill Janssen
> By the > way, I've heard there is a (slow) effort afoot to update the python.org > web site -- perhaps they've already done done icon work, or other > graphic work that could be adapted. http://beta.python.org/ They're using a logo from http://www.pythonology.com/logos. Personally, I prefer

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Build script for Universal Python

2006-02-14 Thread Bill Janssen
> The only reason for having a discussion about the icon anyway is > that some people claim that a photo-realistic snake-related image > will scare some users away. It almost seems inhumane to try to convince those people to use a language called "Python", anyway. Probably cause bad dreams or som

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Build script for Universal Python

2006-02-14 Thread Charles Hartman
On Feb 14, 2006, at 5:01 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > As I already replied off-list, I don't like this picture at all. It > is a lot > less tastefull than the icon on Bob's website (which I do like). > The only reason > for having a discussion about the icon anyway is that some people > cla

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Build script for Universal Python

2006-02-14 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 13-feb-2006, at 22:13, Charles Hartman wrote: On Feb 13, 2006, at 2:43 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote: Please, everyone, do not continue this conversation until you have a serious candidate icon for replacing the 12 ton weight. We don't need ideas or opinions, we need pixels. I just sent this

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Build script for Universal Python

2006-02-14 Thread Kevin Ollivier
Hi Chris, On Feb 14, 2006, at 11:23 AM, Christopher Barker wrote: > Kevin, you are completely right about the icon issue, but someone > needs to lead the effort --- will you do it? If you want it to be > adopted by the general Python community, Guido is the obvious one > to ask. By the way,

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Build script for Universal Python

2006-02-14 Thread Christopher Barker
Kevin, you are completely right about the icon issue, but someone needs to lead the effort --- will you do it? If you want it to be adopted by the general Python community, Guido is the obvious one to ask. By the way, I've heard there is a (slow) effort afoot to update the python.org web site -

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Build script for Universal Python

2006-02-14 Thread Kent Quirk
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Hartman Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 4:14 PM To: Bob Ippolito Cc: PythonMac Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Build script for Universal Python     On Feb 13, 2006, at 2:43 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote: Ple

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Build script for Universal Python

2006-02-13 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:11 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > > On 13-feb-2006, at 1:37, Bob Ippolito wrote: > >> On Feb 12, 2006, at 1:19 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: >> >>> 8. The Python documentation is no longer installed as a help book. >> >> I wonder how hard this is to add to IDLE, or if we can jus

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Build script for Universal Python

2006-02-13 Thread Kevin Ollivier
Hi Ronald, On Feb 13, 2006, at 1:28 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: [snip] > I haven't seen the icon, is it online somewhere? BTW. I do use > wxPython at work, it is the easiest way to develop windows GUI's > without leaving the comforts of my mac. If you're running Tiger, go to /Developer/Examp

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Build script for Universal Python

2006-02-13 Thread Trent Mick
> On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:11 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > > > I just remembered something else that needs to be done some time: > > create better icons, it's time to leave the 10 ton weight behind > > (or at the very least the current rendition of it). I won't do this > > though, given my ski

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Build script for Universal Python

2006-02-13 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 13-feb-2006, at 20:14, Kevin Ollivier wrote: Hi Ronald, On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:28 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: On 13-feb-2006, at 19:17, Bob Ippolito wrote: On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:11 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: On 13-feb-2006, at 1:37, Bob Ippolito wrote: wonder how hard this is to a

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Build script for Universal Python

2006-02-13 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 13, 2006, at 11:14 AM, Kevin Ollivier wrote: > Hi Ronald, > > On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:28 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > >> >> On 13-feb-2006, at 19:17, Bob Ippolito wrote: >> >>> >>> On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:11 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: >>> On 13-feb-2006, at 1:37, Bob Ippolito wrote

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Build script for Universal Python

2006-02-13 Thread Bill Janssen
> We need to at least change the [IDLE] default key bindings to Mac OS > rather than Windows... we also want to make sure that it starts a > pythonw-capable interpreter among other little details. There's a list at http://rlai.cs.ualberta.ca/RLAI/RLsoftware/PythonLinks.html#IDLE. Bill __

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Build script for Universal Python

2006-02-13 Thread Kevin Ollivier
Hi Ronald, On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:28 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > > On 13-feb-2006, at 19:17, Bob Ippolito wrote: > >> >> On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:11 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: >> >>> >>> On 13-feb-2006, at 1:37, Bob Ippolito wrote: >>> wonder how hard this is to add to IDLE, or if we can just

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Build script for Universal Python

2006-02-13 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:46 AM, Christopher Barker wrote: > Ronald Oussoren wrote: >> I remember that. Is that icon still available? > > Isn't it used in the Wiki? (the wiki seems to be down at the moment) Should work now. -bob ___ Pythonmac-SIG mailli

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Build script for Universal Python

2006-02-13 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:28 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > > On 13-feb-2006, at 19:17, Bob Ippolito wrote: > >> >> On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:11 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: >> >>> >>> On 13-feb-2006, at 1:37, Bob Ippolito wrote: >>> wonder how hard this is to add to IDLE, or if we can just link >>>

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Build script for Universal Python

2006-02-13 Thread Christopher Barker
Ronald Oussoren wrote: > I remember that. Is that icon still available? Isn't it used in the Wiki? (the wiki seems to be down at the moment) > That icon was a lot > better than what we have now, if anyone complains about the realism > they can come up with another icon :-). And I second that:

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Build script for Universal Python

2006-02-13 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 13-feb-2006, at 19:17, Bob Ippolito wrote: On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:11 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: On 13-feb-2006, at 1:37, Bob Ippolito wrote: wonder how hard this is to add to IDLE, or if we can just link to HTML docs. I'm not personally a big fan of Help Book anyway. I just read th

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Build script for Universal Python

2006-02-13 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:11 AM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > > On 13-feb-2006, at 1:37, Bob Ippolito wrote: > >> wonder how hard this is to add to IDLE, or if we can just link to >> HTML docs. I'm not personally a big fan of Help Book anyway. > > I just read the source for pydoc, we could install th

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Build script for Universal Python

2006-02-13 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 13-feb-2006, at 1:37, Bob Ippolito wrote: On Feb 12, 2006, at 1:19 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: The attached patch replaces the script in Mac/OSX/Dist by a python script that builds a "batteries included" universal binary. The attached background.jpg should be placed in Mac/OSX/Dist/resou

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Build script for Universal Python

2006-02-12 Thread Bob Ippolito
On Feb 12, 2006, at 1:19 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: > The attached patch replaces the script in Mac/OSX/Dist by a python > script that builds a "batteries included" universal binary. The > attached background.jpg should be placed in Mac/OSX/Dist/resources > (and hopefully someone donates a n