Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app improperly using system framework

2011-04-07 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 6 Apr, 2011, at 23:18, Nat Echols wrote: > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Ronald Oussoren > wrote: > Could you try the latest release on PyPI? This is just to check if that > version also has the problem you describe, which I haven't seen before even > though I have a number of versions

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Simple PyObjC question: real or vapor?

2011-04-07 Thread Ronald Oussoren
On 7 Apr, 2011, at 0:01, Kevin Walzer wrote: > On 4/6/11 4:33 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote: >> But at least wxWidgets isn't Tk, the OSX port of Tk seems to get worse over >> time:-(. We've moved from IDLE not looking quite right to IDLE just crashing >> with TkCocoa (for example when using a numbe

[Pythonmac-SIG] why does the Mac installer hack the user's .bash_profile?

2011-04-07 Thread Bill Janssen
I've got a Snow Leopard buildslave I'm trying to debug. So I thought I'd try Python 2.7 on it. Normally, I advise people to never try to install a different Python on a Mac, as it's too embedded in the OS to do safely, without a great deal of domain knowledge. But here, I figured I could always

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] why does the Mac installer hack the user's .bash_profile?

2011-04-07 Thread Ned Deily
In article <[email protected]>, Bill Janssen wrote: > I've got a Snow Leopard buildslave I'm trying to debug. So I thought > I'd try Python 2.7 on it. Normally, I advise people to never try to > install a different Python on a Mac, as it's too embedded in the OS to > do safely, without

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] why does the Mac installer hack the user's .bash_profile?

2011-04-07 Thread Russell E. Owen
In article <[email protected]>, Bill Janssen wrote: > I've got a Snow Leopard buildslave I'm trying to debug. So I thought > I'd try Python 2.7 on it. Normally, I advise people to never try to > install a different Python on a Mac, as it's too embedded in the OS to > do safely, without

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] why does the Mac installer hack the user's .bash_profile?

2011-04-07 Thread Ned Deily
In article , "Russell E. Owen" wrote: > I'm surprised you can't find it. I've always had it saved on some > obvious place. But I agree that hacking the file is ugly -- it least it > could ask. Well, as I noted, the installer actually does warn you and give you the option to not hack it, if yo

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] why does the Mac installer hack the user's .bash_profile?

2011-04-07 Thread Bill Janssen
Ned Deily wrote: > In article <[email protected]>, Bill Janssen > wrote: > > I've got a Snow Leopard buildslave I'm trying to debug. So I thought > > I'd try Python 2.7 on it. Normally, I advise people to never try to > > install a different Python on a Mac, as it's too embedded in th

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] why does the Mac installer hack the user's .bash_profile?

2011-04-07 Thread Christopher Barker
On 4/7/11 3:37 PM, Ned Deily wrote: The Python 2.7.1 installer welcome file, the text that is shown in the first installer screen, says this: "This package will by default update your shell profile to ensure that this version of Python is on the search path of your shell. Please deselect the "S

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] why does the Mac installer hack the user's .bash_profile?

2011-04-07 Thread Bill Janssen
Christopher Barker wrote: > I'm a bit confused, Bill. You're just that kind of guy that shouldn't > have any problem hacking your .bash_profile! i.e. you are not the > target audience for the installer. Right, I usually just build from source with a non-Framework build if I need a different Pyth