On 9 Apr 2008, at 06:56, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>
> On 3 Apr, 2008, at 15:46, has wrote:
>>
>>> it would be nice to have complete bindings to the bits of
>>> Carbon that still make sense.
>>
>> Yes, although I'd repeat my earlier suggestion that
ns by name/bundle id/creator code,
so it may be that the LS database points to a different copy of OO to
the one you're running. If you need to be more specific, you can
identify applications by their full path or unix process id; see
chapter 7 of the appscript manual for details.
HTH
ng to get a newer
> version of Python running on an older machine.
FWIW, there is a Python 2.3.5 framework build included in 10.5 (/
System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3), although it
lacks a CLI interpreter and headers, and I've no idea if it's
funct
e been trying to field the OP's questions over at <http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=5490877
>, but I'm not the biggest expert on either Xcode or py2app.
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t framework. #3 might be worth
considering if you'd have other uses for such a framework, however.
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a real pain for passing complex values such as lists and dates since
everything has to go as UTF8 text, but it avoids any extra dependencies.
2. Use StandardAdditions' 'run script' command via the osax module.
Since the osax module is built on appsc
Georg Seifert wrote:
is there a way to select witch framework to use?
You need to bind the framework yourself rather than using #import,
e.g. see py2app's bundletemplate/src/main.m, or PyOSA's pythonloader.c
file.
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the-scenes chicanery for compatibility's sake,
but this isn't one of them. (The 'each' parameter is itself a design
wart; Apple event IPC has a lot of those.) Adding a note about this
particular issue to the FAQ is on the TODO list... along with the rest
of the FAQ. (I
script syntax for Mail.app]:
How can I set the complete content of a reply message?
Dunno offhand; might have time to look into it tomorrow unless anyone
else has any ideas. As you say, Mail's scripting interface is less
than stellar. BTW, you could also try asking on Apple's AppleSc
interpreter is just a regular Unix-style
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John Porter Simons wrote:
Any way to inform setuptools that I also need "x86_64" architecture?
I also ran into this problem while installing mod_python, dinked
around with the makefile flags but gave up until I discovered that
the latest subversion trunk has the correct flags
on I don't know where to start.
> Is there any way to interactively explore what is available?
Something
> like
>dir(app('TextEdit')) -> [..., "documents", ...]
> to let me know that the app has document components
>app('TextEdit').doc
requests, etc.
then this is the time to do it[1]. To check it out from appscript's
Subversion repository [2]:
svn checkout http://appscript.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/appscript/py-appscript/trunk
py-appscript-0.19.0-prerelease
Many thanks,
has
[1] IOW, if you have any interes
("com.apple.iTunes")
lib = itunes.sources()[0].playlists()[0]
tracks_list = lib.tracks().get()
print tracks_list
itunes = app(id='com.apple.iTunes')
lib = itunes.sources[1].playlists[1]
tracks_list = lib.tracks.get()
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additions hiding beneath the surface as well, e.g.:
import subprocess
subprocess.call(['say', 'hello world'])
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>>> '\x41\x00'.decode('utf16')
u'\u4100'
OS X 10.5.5/i386 using default 2.5.1 Python installation vs. the
Python 2.6 framework distribution from python.org.
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After further digging, it looks like it's a manifestation of a known
issue in 2.6's C API:
http://bugs.python.org/issue4060
Anyway, I've added a workaround to my code as suggested.
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calls certain OS
APIs, OS X automatically upgrades it to full GUI status. e.g. Py-
appscript has this problem, despite having no need for a Window
Manager connection itself: it calls Process Manager, which is one of
the APIs in question, and the python interpreter is packaged as
an .app, s
nk
BTW, I'm aiming to get the long awaited 0.19.0 (beta 1) release out
this week (I'd hoped to have it out sooner but I'm still polishing
details), and will post an announcement when that happens.
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try:
...
finally:
del pool
I believe that's what the PyObjC documentation recommends.
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On 3 Nov 2008, at 16:00, Bill Janssen wrote:
So, how does the automatic GC in ObjC-2.0 play into this?
PyObjC doesn't work with ObjC 2.0's garbage collector.
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xecutable links against the first
framework it finds on the host system, creating a likely source of
problems if you're using one version of Python and your users are
using another.
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, it's revision 625 of the py-appscript trunk:
svn co http://appscript.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/appscript/py-appscript/trunk
py-appscript-0.19.0
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little trouble identifying and accessing the UI controls from py-
appscript. However, progress has ground to a halt when I tried to
change a value in a table view cell. The code is the following:
[...]
Should work, although hard to say why it isn't without some more
detail. A couple
nsole, that'll let me check for any differences
between the events they're sending that might explain it.
BTW, your code "app('AppName').windows['Untitled']" fails with
AttributeError: Unknown property, element or command:
changes. I don't have an AppleScript, I'm
just doing this with appscript.
Ah, right. I misunderstood - I thought you had it working in
AppleScript but not appscript. Quick question: is the table field in
question editable? (i.e. Can you click in it and type text manually?)
Chee
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of splitter group 1 of window "Untitled" to ""
return value of text field 1 of row 1 of table 1 of scroll area
3 ¬
of splitter group 1 of window "Untitled"
end
end
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ow if I can just change 'i386' in the egg's filename to
'ppc', or does it really have to be built under a PPC process? (I can
probably build a ppc-only python2.6 interpreter for running on my
Intel box, but it won't be tonight.)
Thanks,
has
p.s. Happy py-apps
) on
the appscript-users mailing list - you're bound to find some folks
there with more GUI Scripting experience than me, and they might have
some ideas as well.
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A Python 3.x-compatible version is currently under development and a
file release should be available shortly - see the appscript website
for more information.
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ging most popular interpreters as OSA components is
a complete PITA due to design shortcomings in both. With Python, you
have two very limited options:
- Philip Aker's PythonOSA component, which provides basic OSA support
only (load/compile/run/store). It has no Apple event integratio
AND+bridge)
Still making my own mind up if I should be worried or amused by it.
Not being familiar with the US patent system though, I'm curious if
anyone else has any thoughts.
Do companies like Apple automatically file patents on everything they
write, regardless of whether or not
and send it off to the
USPTO before it stops being a application and starts being awarded?
When it comes to software patents, 99 percent of them are bunk. I
agree that patents are necessary to let new ideas flourish, but the
concept has gone way too far. And especially so in computers.
P
ying and unnecessary behaviour; the problem is that
the OS will automatically GUI-ify any non-GUI process launched from an
application bundle if it calls certain system APIs. Appscript uses the
Process Manager to locate applications and get their process ids, and
unfortunately that's o
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otherwise you'll run into the same problem when building other fat
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incoming events, or prevent the OS from automatically upgrading your
python process to a GUI process (which it only does if it knows the
executable is located in an application bundle, e.g. Python.app/
Contents/MacOS/python).
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has wrote:
...or prevent the OS from automatically upgrading your
python process to a GUI process (which it only does if it knows the
executable is located in an application bundle, e.g. Python.app/
Contents/MacOS/python).
Thanks!
I'
27;t break any of
appscript's existing behaviour. It must be doable: Leopard's Scripting
Bridge manages to avoid triggering the upgrade process, and I'm
assuming (though have not checked) that it also targets processes by
pid.
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you use appscript, as Has suggested. [...]
Agreed. Today's MacPython is, or should be, a superset of standard
*nix Python. OS X is *nix at the shell level, and tools that work on
other *nixes ought to work the same on OS X, otherwise you end up in a
situation where users have
this.
BTW, Python modules/extensions are not officially binary compatible
across major Python releases, so you should be installing afresh anyway.
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suggest writing up a test case in C to confirm the same behaviour
there, then submit a bug report to Apple on it as its their APIs that
are responsible for it.
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unexpectedly quitting while handling an event [1], you can
modify the timeout delay by adding a 'timeout' keyword argument to
your command. See Chapter 11 of the appscript manual for details.
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[1] AESendMessage() often reports event timeout errors (-1712)
incorrectly as
have my suspicions about
easy_install's abilities to make the best choice when multiple options
are available, but setuptools' shortcomings are a little beyond my ken.)
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Or, if futzing with ctypes is too much hassle, consider grabbing the
source for the Carbon.AH extension and repackage it as part of the
project. This is what I did with Carbon.AE when developing appscript,
for example.
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used at all.
Guessing it's a Carbon dependency, which in turn is a Cocoa
dependency. I've had similar reports from appscript users.
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emsend.py", line 82,
in send
aem.aemsend.EventError: Command failed: Application could not
handle this command. (-1708)
2009-05-31 15:42:43.946 ASDictionary[4551:10b] ASDictionary Error
2009-05-31 15:42:43.948 ASDictionary[4551:10b] ASDictionary Error
An unexpected error has occurred durin
ame.get()
Don't suppose you have Default Folder X installed? There's been a
couple other recent compatibility reports with that - it's being
looked into.
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Hi all,
I am pleased to announce the release of Python appscript 0.20.0:
http://pypi.python.org/pypi/appscript
Py-appscript 0.20.0 adds support for Python 3.0 and fixes several bugs.
Enjoy,
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Sean DiZazzo wrote:
On a whim I tried the 0.20.0 version that was released today. To my
surprise, export() has grown a new keyword... timeout!
It's actually been around since the early days, although some older
documentation wasn't as clear about it. Chapter 11 of the appscrip
a different four-char code),
appscript appends an underscore to the application-defined term to
prevent any problems.
There was a known inconsistency in how older versions of appscript
applied these escapes; that has been fixed in the latest appscript and
ASDictionary releases, but I've
o that, depending on whether your Python
application is Carbon or Cocoa based, has an event loop or runs in
batch mode, uses argvemulation, etc. For more specific advice, provide
more details.
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has wrote:
Brendan Simon (eTRIX) wrote:
I have an OS X python program that is invoked via a uri on a
webpage --
eg. "myapp:command"
[...]
You need to install an Apple event handler that responds to the
GetURL
event. Variou
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don't have time to work on it myself, but could provide a few pointers
on where to start looking. How keen are you to get your hands dirty?
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nd it, this module is
designed more to allow Python apps to drive *other* AppleScriptable
apps via the OSA. I'm interested in the opposite. I understand that
there used to be some modules to support this, but they appear to be
deprecated.
If it's a PyObjC-based app then use Cocoa Sc
self, make sure
you're building your application with the same version of Python that
you're testing on. Also, make sure any third-party .eggs used by your
app are installed in unzipped form (easy_install -Z module_name);
py2app currently doesn't work with zipped .eggs.
HTH
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del. Work through the tutorials, and if it's still not clear
then ask. If you plan on implementing an AEOM, look into Cocoa
Scripting - it's a bit of a clunker (and has been since 10.2), but
it's better than nothing.
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Noel Rappin wrote:
I have a Python script that I've been using to communicate back and
forth with iTunes via py-appscript -- it's worked fine for a long
time.
Snow Leopard seems to have broken it -- everytime I run the script, it
stops, and then exits, claiming that one of the co
lling appscript for 2.5,
not 2.6, try specifying the exact version of easy_install to use, e.g.:
easy_install-2.6 appscript
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't complete within the allotted
timeout period (which should be error -1712, but the Apple Event
Manager sometimes returns the wrong code). So does the original
AppleScript work? If not, the problem is in what you're trying to do.
If it does, then see if the ASTransla
uptools if it's available and distutils if
not. Though if there are problems with setuptools then I'd suggest
filing bug reports on that as well.
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On 14 Sep 2009, at 16:28, Bill Janssen wrote:
has wrote:
You can install appscript from source using plain old distutils; the
setup.py script will use setuptools if it's available and distutils
if
not. Though if there are problems with setuptools then I'd suggest
filing bug
fully this will help. If anything's unclear or incorrect, just let me know
and I'll improve it.
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AECreateAppleEvent function returns a new event with the known-to-be-bad return
ID, it chucks it and asks for a fresh one. I really don't have time to work on
this right now, but if anyone else wants to have a go and submit
really appreciate it.
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access 10.5/10.6-only APIs (e.g. build your own Python framework?)?
Perhaps it's time python.org started distributing framework builds for 10.5 and
later?
Any thoughts, advice, etc?
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Any relation to the 2.6.3 problems? Or something else?
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Python.app icons no longer appear in the Dock when using appscript on Python
frameworks built for 10.5+
- Several bug fixes in 64-bit and Python 3.0 support.
A new version of the ASDictionary documentation tool has also been released.
ASDictionary 0.12.0 addresses occasional launch problems,
common cause of poor performance. See chapter 13 of the appscript manual for
more information, and post back here if you need more advice.
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Hi all,
Just posted a bug-fix release to PyPI that corrects a problem when unpacking
Boolean values on Python 3.x.
(The 1.0 release date is pushed back accordingly.)
Please go beat harder on it. :)
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Once you've got
Xcode building Python-based .app bundles that don't suck, you can look at
providing dependency bundling as an extra build phase.
Personally, I like py2app and I'm not a huge fan of Xcode for Python
development, but the first rule of sustainable OSS development ha
her 2% of corner cases that are tricky to
fathom, but once you understand what's going on it should be straightforward to
rephrase your requests appropriately - in this case by sending a second 'get'
command yourself.
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) # works just fine
> app("EyeTV").stop() #works just fine
>
> go_do_other_stuff_possibly_in_other_threads_for_a_really_long_time()
>
> app("EyeTV").play(id) # has no effect
Is the EyeTV process running throughout, or does it quit and restart?
Are you sure all
the command line actually works, which makes setting the AEDebug
> environment variable
> problematic.
Try setting it on EyeTV.
http://developer.apple.com/mac/library/technotes/tn2004/tn2124.html#SECAE
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eloping a program to be used for (human) language educators.
Appscript on Python3 works fine here. Try installing the latest PyPI appscript
release using Distutils rather than the MacPorts appscript.
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Sounds like you forgot to add an OSAScriptingDefinition entry containing the
sdef's filename to your info.plist.
Also, bear in mind that sdef-only apps won't work in 10.4 or earlier; if that's
a concern then you'll need to provide an aete as well.
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Kevin Walzer wrote:
> Now my app responds to Apple Events and doesn't complain about a corrupted
> dictionary. However, I'm having some additional difficulty. It appears that
> Apple Events are bypassing the bundled Python and are going straight to the
> Tk framewor
'd
need to pass global/local dicts to it and exchange values via that.
For what you're doing though, eval() might be a more appropriate choice.
Though personally I'd be looking to add a proper AE API, even if only
procedural, so that users can't just run arbitrary code. But t
e.kae.typeUnicodeText)
> )
You don't pass self to a bound method in Python. Delete the ('', 'self',
...) tuple.
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> Kevin Walzer wrote:
>
>> You don't pass self to a bound method in Python. Delete the ('', 'self',
>> ...) tuple.
>
> My app crashes when I do that. Here's the error message:
>
> TypeError: Can't install event handler '
ocoa.
> As Carbon is deprecated anyway, I guess it's time for gestalt ( or
> platform.mac_ver ) to be re-written
Python's Carbon modules are deprecated in 2.x and gone in 3.x, so its
Carbon.gestalt module is a dead end for Python users. Mac OS X's gestalt APIs
are n
u consider how they work.
Though I still reckon redesigning the code to do all GUI stuff on the main
thread will be the best solution for the OP, painful as that might be.
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does. Check their docstrings for more information.
> I could use NDAlias via pyobjc and get an NSData out.
NSURL has a 'bookmark' feature in 10.6+.
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> Thanks! I made working examples for both, but I guess the first has
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No, a Window Manager connection is not required.
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if found, I'll add it to my TODO list.
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>
> does actually give me a reference. So is there something I'm misunderstanding?
app objects don't fetch terminology until you start building a reference or
command.
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See chapter 7 of the appscript manual for more information.
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neral Python error, as you say.
In which case, either pick a different variable name or use 'import appscript'
and 'appscript.k.KEYWORD_NAME'.
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> seems to run 4x slower than on Leopard (10.5.8), discounting hardware
> differences. Is there a way for me to setup the appscript
> installation to mitigate this performance hit?
Have you tried running 32-bit on both to see if it's a 32-/64-bit issue?
Otherwise, I'
Adam Morris wrote:
> How can one refer to keywords (the k) given a variable?
from appscript import *
s = 'some_keyword'
print getattr(k, s)
# k.some_keyword
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lication "Skim"
set r to item 1 of (get selection of note 1 of document 1)
get contents of r
end tell
-- error "Skim got an error: Invalid range." number -1720 from characters 222
thru 286 of text of page 4 of document "points-of-view.pdf"
So I would sugg
John Jackson wrote:
> I recently upgraded FileMaker to version 11, and discovered that my
> python-based application that relies on appscript to control a FileMaker
> database has broken.
I believe that's a bug in FMP 11, where sending an ascr/gdte (get terminology)
event to F
Ben Pedersen wrote:
> Working with py-appscript to automate testing and I'm getting an error
> deep in aemreference/aemcodecs. [...]
>
> class SuperTest():
> def getProcessHandle(procName="TextEdit"):
should read:
def getProcessHandle(self, procName=&qu
r script was waiting for a reply. I would suggest
filing a bug report on QuickTime Player <http://bugreport.apple.com>,
ideally including an AppleScript that reproduces the problem.
HTH
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