Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-10-06 Thread Blue Swirl
On 10/5/07, Natalia Portillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is desiderable for QEMU, no way, IT IS A MUST FOR QEMU, to be able to boot real firmware that boots in the real hardware QEMU is emulating. (That is, if QEMU emulates a PIIX4 with Pentium II, it must support booting a BIOS for

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-10-05 Thread Natalia Portillo
to PowerPC, MIPS, ARM, Alpha, Sparc, so on! Regards, Natalia Portillo - Original Message - From: Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Blue Swirl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; qemu-devel@nongnu.org Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-10-01 Thread Avi Kivity
Jocelyn Mayer wrote: CVSROOT: /sources/qemu Module name: qemu Changes by: Jocelyn Mayer j_mayer 07/10/01 06:44:33 Modified files: pc-bios: ppc_rom.bin Log message: Quickly hack PowerPC BIOS able to boot on CDROM again. CVSWeb URLs:

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-10-01 Thread Bob Deblier
On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 09:05 +0200, Avi Kivity wrote: Jocelyn Mayer wrote: CVSROOT:/sources/qemu Module name:qemu Changes by: Jocelyn Mayer j_mayer 07/10/01 06:44:33 Modified files: pc-bios: ppc_rom.bin Log message: Quickly hack PowerPC BIOS able to

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-10-01 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Bob Deblier a écrit : On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 09:05 +0200, Avi Kivity wrote: Jocelyn Mayer wrote: CVSROOT:/sources/qemu Module name:qemu Changes by: Jocelyn Mayer j_mayer 07/10/01 06:44:33 Modified files: pc-bios: ppc_rom.bin Log message: Quickly hack PowerPC

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-10-01 Thread Andreas Färber
Am 01.10.2007 um 09:12 schrieb Bob Deblier: Ideally we should have an OpenBIOS compiled for QEMU/PPC. Is anyone working on this? I had looked into this recently but it turned out that PearPC and others using OpenBIOS/ppc use an ELF format OpenBIOS binary that is incompatible with QEMU,

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-10-01 Thread Jocelyn Mayer
On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 17:55 +0300, Blue Swirl wrote: On 10/1/07, Andreas Färber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 01.10.2007 um 09:12 schrieb Bob Deblier: Ideally we should have an OpenBIOS compiled for QEMU/PPC. Is anyone working on this? I had looked into this recently but it turned

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-10-01 Thread Blue Swirl
On 10/1/07, Jocelyn Mayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 17:55 +0300, Blue Swirl wrote: On 10/1/07, Andreas Färber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 01.10.2007 um 09:12 schrieb Bob Deblier: Ideally we should have an OpenBIOS compiled for QEMU/PPC. Is anyone working on

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-10-01 Thread Jocelyn Mayer
On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 19:36 +0300, Blue Swirl wrote: On 10/1/07, Jocelyn Mayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 17:55 +0300, Blue Swirl wrote: On 10/1/07, Andreas Färber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 01.10.2007 um 09:12 schrieb Bob Deblier: Ideally we should have

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-10-01 Thread J. Mayer
On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 09:05 +0200, Avi Kivity wrote: Jocelyn Mayer wrote: CVSROOT:/sources/qemu Module name:qemu Changes by: Jocelyn Mayer j_mayer 07/10/01 06:44:33 Modified files: pc-bios: ppc_rom.bin Log message: Quickly hack PowerPC BIOS able to

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-10-01 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Blue Swirl wrote: On 10/1/07, Jocelyn Mayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 17:55 +0300, Blue Swirl wrote: On 10/1/07, Andreas Färber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 01.10.2007 um 09:12 schrieb Bob Deblier: Ideally we should have an OpenBIOS compiled for QEMU/PPC.

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-10-01 Thread J. Mayer
On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 22:31 +0300, Blue Swirl wrote: On 10/1/07, Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blue Swirl wrote: On 10/1/07, Jocelyn Mayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 17:55 +0300, Blue Swirl wrote: On 10/1/07, Andreas Färber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-10-01 Thread Fabrice Bellard
Blue Swirl wrote: On 10/1/07, Jocelyn Mayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 17:55 +0300, Blue Swirl wrote: On 10/1/07, Andreas Färber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 01.10.2007 um 09:12 schrieb Bob Deblier: Ideally we should have an OpenBIOS compiled for QEMU/PPC. Is anyone

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-10-01 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Blue Swirl a écrit : On 10/1/07, Thiemo Seufer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blue Swirl wrote: The one doesn't exclude the other. That said, I regard the ability to boot unaltered real-world firmare as an important test of the quality of a system emulation. Maybe. The CPU probes for cacheline

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-10-01 Thread Laurent Desnogues
Aurelien Jarno a écrit : Maybe. The CPU probes for cacheline size, checks for errata #42 vs #45, reads debug registers, attempts to identify the bus speed by comparing I/O access times, tries to verify the system using a TPM and fails all cases. What can you do? Emulate a simpler architecture

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/pc-bios ppc_rom.bin

2007-10-01 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Blue Swirl wrote: [snip] Qemu is not also aimed for 100% accurate emulation of the hardware. There are no caches or cycle counters and hardware devices run unrealistically fast from CPU standpoint. Emulating performance counters or the errata the most CPUs have would be extremely