Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server now install a full DE?

2020-05-20 Thread David Marteau
Hi, Qgis server is built on top of the Qgis codebase. Qgis  require Qt. Qt packages come with all the dependencies, needed or not, to run Qt applications in the large. The problem is mainly Qt packaging, and there is not much you can do about this (you may ask why Qgis desktop need

Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server now install a full DE?

2020-05-19 Thread Uros Preloznik
Hi, Maybe I did open different question with Python support, but I still think default setup of QGIS Server should be as light as possible for running standard OGC requests. If you have demand for specific tasks then you will know what to do to enable Python support and go with plugins. It used

Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server now install a full DE?

2020-05-19 Thread Jürgen E . Fischer
Hi Hendrik, On Tue, 19. May 2020 at 19:15:59 +0200, Henrik Larsson wrote: > Server plugins is nice but do one really need the Qt5 dependency for this on > the server side? When installing on Windows using the OSGeo4W installer you > get that too. Of course. QGIS - including the server - is

Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server now install a full DE?

2020-05-19 Thread Henrik Larsson
Server plugins is nice but do one really need the Qt5 dependency for this on the server side? When installing on Windows using the OSGeo4W installer you get that too. best regards // Henrik Den 2020-05-19 kl. 18:34, skrev Marco Bernasocchi: Hi Uros On 19.05.20 11:03, Uros Preloznik wrote:

Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server now install a full DE?

2020-05-19 Thread Marco Bernasocchi
Hi Uros On 19.05.20 11:03, Uros Preloznik wrote: > I think main question is does QGIS Server needs dependency to python? Unless you want to kill server plugins. Maybe it could be a separated qgis-server-python package. but as Bas said, it seems a different issue. Cheers Marco -- Marco

Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server now install a full DE?

2020-05-19 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
On 5/19/20 11:03 AM, Uros Preloznik wrote: > Thanks for pointing it out, but I think we should install server as we did > all the time. No need to look into ubuntu for this. If you want to install qgis-server as you did all the time, then you need to get Ubuntu to revert their libnotify change.

Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server now install a full DE?

2020-05-19 Thread Uros Preloznik
Hi Thanks for pointing it out, but I think we should install server as we did all the time. No need to look into ubuntu for this. We should look at dependencies and why some core stuff needs some optional things like Nylan pointed out. I can see problem might be connected to point where server

Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server now install a full DE?

2020-05-19 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
On 5/19/20 10:45 AM, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: > On 5/19/20 9:05 AM, Paolo Cavallini wrote: >> thanks Bas for the explanation. I believe the default should be no DE - >> how can be the chain of deps be broken? > > Talk to the Ubuntu people. > > In Debian libnotify4 only Recommends

Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server now install a full DE?

2020-05-19 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
On 5/19/20 9:05 AM, Paolo Cavallini wrote: > thanks Bas for the explanation. I believe the default should be no DE - > how can be the chain of deps be broken? Talk to the Ubuntu people. In Debian libnotify4 only Recommends notification-daemon. > Il 19/05/20 08:47, Sebastiaan Couwenberg ha

Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server now install a full DE?

2020-05-19 Thread Nyall Dawson
On Tue, 19 May 2020 at 16:47, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: >python3-qgis-common Depends: > libqgis-customwidgets Depends: Isn't this the underlying source of the issue? I don't see why the python package is dependant on the customwidgets package. Rather that should be entirely optional

Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server now install a full DE?

2020-05-19 Thread Werner Macho
Hi ! As far as I can see the solution is in the Link Bas added in his previous mail. "To turn this feature off, pass --no-install-recommends to apt or set, in your apt configuration, APT::Install-Recommends=False." regards Werner On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 9:04 AM Paolo Cavallini wrote: > Hi

Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server now install a full DE?

2020-05-19 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Hi all, thanks Bas for the explanation. I believe the default should be no DE - how can be the chain of deps be broken? Cheers. Il 19/05/20 08:47, Sebastiaan Couwenberg ha scritto: > On 5/19/20 7:46 AM, Uros Preloznik wrote: >> Can anyone explain why was this change necessary? > > The problem

Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server now install a full DE?

2020-05-19 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
On 5/19/20 7:46 AM, Uros Preloznik wrote: > Can anyone explain why was this change necessary? The problem seems to be: qgis-server Depends: python3-qgis Depends: python3-qgis-common Depends: libqgis-customwidgets Depends: qttools5-dev-tools Depends: qt5-assistant Depends:

Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server now install a full DE?

2020-05-19 Thread Jürgen E . Fischer
Hi, On Thu, 14. May 2020 at 20:04:59 +0200, Henrik Larsson wrote: > When installing QGis Server on Windows using the OSGeo4W installer its > actually the only way. Trying to install only the server part and you will > not get all dll:s to run the application. Desktop is needed. Which ones? Did

Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server now install a full DE?

2020-05-18 Thread Uros Preloznik
I also noticed this as Giovanni wrote. It does not make sense to install all this on Linux server (no desktop). Can anyone explain why was this change necessary? Should we change documentation on setup part? thanks Uroš V V čet., 14. maj 2020 ob 15:31 je oseba Sebastiaan Couwenberg <

Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server now install a full DE?

2020-05-14 Thread Henrik Larsson
When installing QGis Server on Windows using the OSGeo4W installer its actually the only way. Trying to install only the server part and you will not get all dll:s to run the application. Desktop is needed. best regards // Henrik Den 2020-05-14 kl. 15:31, skrev Sebastiaan Couwenberg: On

Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server now install a full DE?

2020-05-14 Thread Giovanni Manghi
Hi, > It is when you install Recommends, which now enabled by default. > > > here is the list of packages installed when doing sudo apt-get install > > qgis-server: > > The list is shorter when using: > > apt install --no-install-recommends qgis-server thanks, I wasn't aware of this change.

Re: [QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server now install a full DE?

2020-05-14 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
On 5/14/20 3:24 PM, Giovanni Manghi wrote: > I noticed that the list of dependencies to be installed was weirdly very > long, and in fact after finishing it was also installed Gnome... is this > normal now? It is when you install Recommends, which now enabled by default. > here is the list of

[QGIS-Developer] QGIS Server now install a full DE?

2020-05-14 Thread Giovanni Manghi
HI all, I just noticed the following: installed a machine with fresh copy of Ubuntu Server 20.04, headless added the qgis.org repo and installed qgis-server I noticed that the list of dependencies to be installed was weirdly very long, and in fact after finishing it was also installed Gnome...