Re: [Qgis-developer] GGL2 - QGIS integration

2012-06-21 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Fernando González fergo...@gmail.com wrote: backend is in Java and that probably won't change? sorry for the silence, I'm traveling. first, the ggl2 compiler is java, and second, it's task is to traduce ggl2 code to java code that actually does the job.

Re: [Qgis-developer] GGL2 - QGIS integration

2012-06-21 Thread Fernando González
I don't think it is a big problem, it just possibly precludes us from shipping with GGL available 'out of the box' which reduces the potential user base. Yes, I counted on that :/ I'm thinking of making the python plugin download and install GGL2 (which includes de jvm) in order to make this

Re: [Qgis-developer] GGL2 - QGIS integration

2012-06-20 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi All We already got something with the previous implementation of GGL and the sextante Java version. I see on your repo a basic Python implementation to call GGL2 through Popen. Do you mean something like that? Are there any plans to make a C++ or Python port of GGL? From looking at

Re: [Qgis-developer] GGL2 - QGIS integration

2012-06-20 Thread G. Allegri
Are there any plans to make a C++ or Python port of GGL? From looking at the website it looks like the user will need java on their system to use it? AFAIU the plan are to keep it in Java, at now. The QGis integration idea are: 1 - a plugin to serve QGis as a GIS to GGL2 (read/load layers)

Re: [Qgis-developer] GGL2 - QGIS integration

2012-06-20 Thread Tim Sutton
Hi On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 1:05 PM, G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any plans to make a C++ or Python port of GGL? From looking at the website it looks like the user will need java on their system to use it? AFAIU the plan are to keep it in Java, at now. The QGis integration

Re: [Qgis-developer] GGL2 - QGIS integration

2012-06-20 Thread Etienne Tourigny
In case of linux systems, I would think that most (if not all) installations include java, so it's not that much of a requirement. It might be more complicated in the case of windows and mac. It would be interesting to have a separate qgis-framework package (or similar name) that includes

Re: [Qgis-developer] GGL2 - QGIS integration

2012-06-20 Thread Vincent Picavet
Hi, Le mercredi 20 juin 2012 16:08:19, Etienne Tourigny a écrit : In case of linux systems, I would think that most (if not all) installations include java, so it's not that much of a requirement. It might be more complicated in the case of windows and mac. That's really not the case as far

Re: [Qgis-developer] GGL2 - QGIS integration

2012-06-20 Thread Etienne Tourigny
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Vincent Picavet vincent...@oslandia.com wrote: Hi, Le mercredi 20 juin 2012 16:08:19, Etienne Tourigny a écrit : In case of linux systems, I would think that most (if not all) installations include java, so it's not that much of a requirement. It might be

Re: [Qgis-developer] GGL2 - QGIS integration

2012-06-20 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 20/06/2012 16:54, Etienne Tourigny ha scritto: On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Vincent Picavet vincent...@oslandia.com wrote: From the first anouncement http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/qgis-developer/2012-June/020620.html because it's our very first development in python! Adding a Java

Re: [Qgis-developer] GGL2 - QGIS integration

2012-06-20 Thread G. Allegri
I really don't understand the point. It's up to the user to provide the required packages, as it is with OTB, SAGA, GRASS, etc. If someone mean to mantain a big all-included package as a simplified mega-plugin is onviously free to do it, but IMHO it would be served as a third party package.

Re: [Qgis-developer] GGL2 - QGIS integration

2012-06-20 Thread Victor Olaya
2012/6/20 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com: I really don't understand the point. It's up to the user to provide the required packages, as it is with OTB, SAGA, GRASS, etc. I think some packages are different that others. I discussed this with Paolo, and my opinion is that GRASS and SAGA are the

Re: [Qgis-developer] GGL2 - QGIS integration

2012-06-20 Thread Fernando González
backend is in Java and that probably won't change? sorry for the silence, I'm traveling. first, the ggl2 compiler is java, and second, it's task is to traduce ggl2 code to java code that actually does the job. this means that the dependency in java is very strong. i know it is a problem and i

[Qgis-developer] GGL2 - QGIS integration

2012-06-18 Thread Fernando González
Hi all, Although I've already taken part in the list once, I want to briefly introduce myself. I'm freelance developer, I started with GIS development in the beginnings of gvSIG. I work mainly with Java and I'm just a basic QGIS user... until now. My brother Víctor (González) and I are engaged in

Re: [Qgis-developer] GGL2 - QGIS integration

2012-06-18 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 18/06/2012 09:14, Fernando González ha scritto: I hope it's interesting for some of you and, of course, any comments of such an active and skilful community are very welcome. Mainly because it's our very first development in python! Hi Fernando, it looks a very interesting development;

Re: [Qgis-developer] GGL2 - QGIS integration

2012-06-18 Thread Fernando González
Hi Paolo. About the UI, we want to have a console so that the user can type the script and hit a play button. Similar to the Consola GGL panel towards the end of this video[1]. That's the previous version of the language, which was based in SQL. Appart of the UI, a qgis plugin must be created

Re: [Qgis-developer] GGL2 - QGIS integration

2012-06-18 Thread G. Allegri
Appart of the UI, a qgis plugin must be created that exchanges messages with the GGL compiler in order to show results and inform the compiler about the layers loaded in qgis, etc. This approach already works in gvSIG. You can see how does it looks like from the user point of view here[2]

Re: [Qgis-developer] GGL2 - QGIS integration

2012-06-18 Thread Víctor González
Hi all, I'm Víctor (Fernando's brother) and I also wanted to introduce myself. I have been working with GGL for some time and I did the GGL2-GIS connection system in the context of a GSoC last year. I have been working with Java and C but never with Python, so this is a new experience for me.

Re: [Qgis-developer] GGL2 - QGIS integration

2012-06-18 Thread Victor Olaya
I just want to add that both Victor and Fernando are good friends of mine and their work is impressive. If GGL2 can be implemented in QGIS using SEXTANTE, That will be a very valuable addition. I, of course, will be ready to help as much as needed. Regards Victor 2012/6/18 Víctor González

Re: [Qgis-developer] GGL2 - QGIS integration

2012-06-18 Thread G. Allegri
Regarding your question, that is the idea. But actually the Qgis plugin will be the server since all the communication is started by the GGL2 environment. This plugin can be seen as a layer server that provides and stores (draws) layers: it opens a socket and manages the requests. Hi

Re: [Qgis-developer] GGL2 - QGIS integration

2012-06-18 Thread Víctor González
Hi, Yes, exactly. We plan to implement the same behavior as in gvSIG. You can see this in some videos. Referencing GIS layers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHJ3pFHHe6U Adding new layers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcTTUMGuL5Q We know that it could also be interesting to use GGL2 from

Re: [Qgis-developer] GGL2 - QGIS integration

2012-06-18 Thread Fernando González
Hi Víctor, thanks for the support. My idea is to give the sextante integration a try once the basic integration is done. We'll see :) On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Victor Olaya vola...@gmail.com wrote: I just want to add that both Victor and Fernando are good friends of mine and their work

Re: [Qgis-developer] GGL2 - QGIS integration

2012-06-18 Thread G. Allegri
What do you mean with SEXTABTE/QGis integration? Do you mean launching GGL2 commands from inside SEXTANTE (directed to the hosted GGL2 engine), or porting GGL2 to Python? I see on your repo a basic Python implementation to call GGL2 through Popen. Do you mean something like that? Sorry for so

Re: [Qgis-developer] GGL2 - QGIS integration

2012-06-18 Thread G. Allegri
Hi Fernando, I supposed you were somehow involved in those projects. Nice to meet you :) Now I will move my questions on GGL2 ml... giovanni 2012/6/18 Fernando González fergo...@gmail.com Hi Giovanni On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 4:01 PM, G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean