Re: [Qgis-developer] Get rid of Shapefiles ! Go SpatiaLite !

2012-12-16 Thread Vincent Picavet
Hello, Le dimanche 16 décembre 2012 02:36:31, pcr...@pcreso.com a écrit : I'm interested in at least discussing this thread going a step further, with respect to a SpatialLite based file transfer tool for geodata. The OGC has mandated many open standards, including SFS, which most spatial

[Qgis-developer] Get rid of Shapefiles ! Go SpatiaLite !

2012-12-15 Thread pcreso
I'm interested in at least discussing this thread going a step further, with respect to a SpatialLite based file transfer tool for geodata. The OGC has mandated many open standards, including SFS, which most spatial databases are predicated on. It is not that clear to me whether a spec for an

Re: [Qgis-developer] Get rid of Shapefiles ! Go SpatiaLite !

2012-11-27 Thread Bernd Vogelgesang
Am 27.11.2012, 08:20 Uhr, schrieb Paolo Cavallini cavall...@faunalia.it: On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 23:56:30 +0100, Bernd Vogelgesang bernd.vogelges...@gmx.de wrote: You just should not use Qspatialite to import shapes. I nearly gave up upon spatialite, when i figured out that i had to use the

Re: [Qgis-developer] Get rid of Shapefiles ! Go SpatiaLite !

2012-11-27 Thread kimaidou
Hi all, One thing to add to our feature list is the ability to do the following : * use the menu Add a vector layer * choose a sqlite file * a dialog with all tables contained in this file pops up and let the user choose one * load the layer (spatial or not) in QGIS By the way, we in 3liz would

Re: [Qgis-developer] Get rid of Shapefiles ! Go SpatiaLite !

2012-11-27 Thread pcreso
, if not Arc friendly. SpatiaLite, despite all it's advantages, is inappropriate here. Brent Wood --- On Tue, 11/27/12, Noli Sicad nsi...@gmail.com wrote: From: Noli Sicad nsi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Qgis-developer] Get rid of Shapefiles ! Go SpatiaLite ! To: haubourg regis.haubo...@eau-adour

Re: [Qgis-developer] Get rid of Shapefiles ! Go SpatiaLite !

2012-11-27 Thread Stefan Keller
to be viable for such use, at least Arc compatible, if not Arc friendly. SpatiaLite, despite all it's advantages, is inappropriate here. Brent Wood --- On *Tue, 11/27/12, Noli Sicad nsi...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Noli Sicad nsi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Qgis-developer] Get rid of Shapefiles

Re: [Qgis-developer] Get rid of Shapefiles ! Go SpatiaLite !

2012-11-27 Thread pcreso
Keller sfkel...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Qgis-developer] Get rid of Shapefiles ! Go SpatiaLite ! To: pcr...@pcreso.com Cc: qgis-developer@lists.osgeo.org Date: Wednesday, November 28, 2012, 3:28 AM Hi Brent Your point is very common and I understand this situation.But the ArcGIS SW suite doesn't

Re: [Qgis-developer] Get rid of Shapefiles ! Go SpatiaLite !

2012-11-27 Thread dncarreira
For what it's worth... I'm in a ESRI+QGIS environment. I feel QGIS should obvioulsy improve spatialite usage. It should be intuitive and easy to create, save, export spatialite layers. For ESRI I can always convert to shapefile, like I have to do when going from ESRI to QGIS. Hopefully as SL's

Re: [Qgis-developer] Get rid of Shapefiles ! Go SpatiaLite !

2012-11-27 Thread kimaidou
Hi agin Surely I did not mean to drop Shapefile support ! We must let the user choose. But now, as ESRI Shapefile is the simplest/default way (yet limited) to create/edit layers, we force the users to use it, which I dislike for reasons written previously. I think sqlite could be a great

Re: [Qgis-developer] Get rid of Shapefiles ! Go SpatiaLite !

2012-11-27 Thread Noli Sicad
Hi Stefan, Your point is very common and I understand this situation. But the ArcGIS SW suite doesn't really make interoperability easy and tends to maintain a vendor lock-in. My proposal is to break this deadlock by programming an free ArcGIS desktop extension which reads/writes Spatialite.

Re: [Qgis-developer] Get rid of Shapefiles ! Go SpatiaLite !

2012-11-26 Thread kimaidou
Hi again I am coming back after more thinking :). I changed the subject into Go Spatialite ! List of modifications which would help to use spatialite instead of Shapefile as the default format : * Create a new vector layer : should allow to choose between shapefile and Spatialite. Let the use

Re: [Qgis-developer] Get rid of Shapefiles ! Go SpatiaLite !

2012-11-26 Thread Pēteris Brūns
Hi, +1 This direction from my view is more correct course of action - make the use of spatialite more easy and ergonomic for users as it is now and in case of success it will be used more and more. Regards, On 2012.11.26. 18:35, kimaidou wrote: Hi again I am coming back after more thinking

Re: [Qgis-developer] Get rid of Shapefiles ! Go SpatiaLite !

2012-11-26 Thread Stefan Keller
Hi Michael +1 from my part. To me Spatialie is the shapefile of the future since 2010 (see e.g. FOSS4G) Yours, Stefan 2012/11/26 Pēteris Brūns p...@sungis.lv: Hi, +1 This direction from my view is more correct course of action - make the use of spatialite more easy and ergonomic for users

Re: [Qgis-developer] Get rid of Shapefiles ! Go SpatiaLite !

2012-11-26 Thread Thomas Gratier
Hello all, +1 for Spatialite You can also have a look on Geopackages announcement at OGC e.g http://www.opengeospatial.org/pressroom/pressreleases/1710 It seems to be a future standard for geospatial data Regards ThomasG ___ Qgis-developer mailing

Re: [Qgis-developer] Get rid of Shapefiles ! Go SpatiaLite !

2012-11-26 Thread haubourg
Hey +1 for me! I answered in the old post on GeoJSON. You pointed exactly what's missing now ! -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1560.n6.nabble.com/Re-Get-rid-of-Shapefiles-Go-SpatiaLite-tp5018830p5018893.html Sent from the Quantum GIS - Developer mailing list archive at

Re: [Qgis-developer] Get rid of Shapefiles ! Go SpatiaLite !

2012-11-26 Thread Noli Sicad
Spatialite 4.0.0 was released yesterday. Sandro will update the Spatialite QGIS data provider in the next few days to support Spatialite 4.0.x. Noli On 11/27/12, haubourg regis.haubo...@eau-adour-garonne.fr wrote: Hey +1 for me! I answered in the old post on GeoJSON. You pointed exactly

Re: [Qgis-developer] Get rid of Shapefiles ! Go SpatiaLite !

2012-11-26 Thread Alister Hood
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:35:24 + From: Barry Rowlingson b.rowling...@lancaster.ac.uk ... I am very frustrated by the limitations of the Shapefile format, and much more by the quasi obligation to use it as the default vector format in QGIS. I mean for non power users who do not use

Re: [Qgis-developer] Get rid of Shapefiles ! Go SpatiaLite !

2012-11-26 Thread Paolo Cavallini
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 23:56:30 +0100, Bernd Vogelgesang bernd.vogelges...@gmx.de wrote: You just should not use Qspatialite to import shapes. I nearly gave up upon spatialite, when i figured out that i had to use the Spatialite GUI instead and this was fast as hell. Why not using DB Manager?

Re: [Qgis-developer] Get rid of Shapefiles ! Go SpatiaLite !

2012-11-26 Thread G. Allegri
Just a note on the difficulty of Spatialite rather then shapefiles. I often work with commercial softwares, and most of thems let the user work seamlessly with local geodatabases (many of them use the MDB format), and I see it's not so strange for GIS users to use them rather then shapefiles to