Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-25 Thread Pedro Venâncio
Hi Régis, I did here some tests with your data, your project and your composer (project_qgismaster_2613cf6.qgs). I did exports to pdf vector up to 1200dpi (the generated pdf got 99.1MB) without any problems (nor tiling, nor crashes). Regarding the export to pdf raster, everything worked well

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-25 Thread Andreas Neumann
Hi Pedro, Was this on a 32bit or 64bit Linux system? Andreas Am 25.11.2012 20:15, schrieb Pedro Venâncio: Hi Régis, I did here some tests with your data, your project and your composer (project_qgismaster_2613cf6.qgs). I did exports to pdf vector up to 1200dpi (the generated pdf got

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-25 Thread Pedro Venâncio
Oh sorry Andreas, I forgot to mention that, it is 32bit: pedro@fujitsu:~$ uname -a Linux fujitsu 3.2.0-33-generic #52-Ubuntu SMP Thu Oct 18 16:19:45 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux pedro@fujitsu:~$ file /bin/bash | cut -d' ' -f3 32-bit I must also say that this is my working QGIS, with lots

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-23 Thread Ramon Andiñach
On 23/11/2012, at 11:42, Ramon Andiñach cust...@westnet.com.au wrote: I've just worked through your notes on my OSGeo4w master - 3700d84 (unfortunately not a fresh install, might try later) and actually had crashes where you did. I did not get any blank PDFs though. The test above

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-23 Thread haubourg
Hi, on XP, I installed shapely as described: - systematic crashes with pdf raster export 400 dpi. Memory usage going up to 762Mo (on 4Go) when crashing. When crashing, I hear HDD swapping a lot (confirmed on task manager). Composer screen starts a refresh and goes blank. at the same time, I get

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-23 Thread Ramon Andiñach
On 23/11/2012, at 18:19 , haubourg wrote: Hi, on XP, I installed shapely as described: - systematic crashes with pdf raster export 400 dpi. Memory usage going up to 762Mo (on 4Go) when crashing. When crashing, I hear HDD swapping a lot (confirmed on task manager). Composer screen starts

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-22 Thread skampus
in my recent experience, exporting as pdf a simple A3 at 1200 dpi, having googlemaps as background and two rasters and some points/polygons, makes crash. the solution i've adopted is to print the layout to pdf printer, but in this way the pdf is a raster pdf not vector -- View this message in

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-22 Thread Ramon Andiñach
On 22/11/2012, at 18:18, haubourg regis.haubo...@eau-adour-garonne.fr wrote: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/zg4zidwab83ym0d/VpxPA3euLI/QGIS_CRASH_COMPOSER here are my firsts conclusions: - Making a fresh install of latest master with no plugin or setting *do not often lead to crash (once

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-22 Thread haubourg
Hi Ramon Andiñach wrote Where your vector exports about twice as big as the raster versions? Is that expected? -ramon. Thanks for your tests. Yes, pdf are twice as big as rasters for me too. This is uinderstandable since it keeps all vertex of geometries, and they are big, and you also have

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-20 Thread haubourg
Paolo Cavallini wrote I think the first step is to make the problem replicable: could anyone share a project and data that consistently make QGIS crash on 32 bit? Thanks. Hi, I'm on it... but.. Impossible to export pdf as raster in nightly build ! pdf is exported with an empty frame.. Is

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-20 Thread Ramon Andiñach
On 17/11/2012, at 20:31 , Paolo Cavallini wrote: Il 16/11/2012 17:04, Marco Hugentobler ha scritto: I just printed a tiff raster layer to A0 pdf with 600 dpi and with a 32bit 1.8 qgis.exe on windows. Works without problems. Could it be people who encountered problems are using 1.7.4 or

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-20 Thread HAUBOURG
novembre 2012 11:57 À : qgis-user User Objet : Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print On 17/11/2012, at 20:31 , Paolo Cavallini wrote: Il 16/11/2012 17:04, Marco Hugentobler ha scritto: I just printed a tiff raster layer to A0 pdf with 600 dpi and with a 32bit 1.8 qgis.exe on windows. Works

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-17 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 16/11/2012 17:04, Marco Hugentobler ha scritto: I just printed a tiff raster layer to A0 pdf with 600 dpi and with a 32bit 1.8 qgis.exe on windows. Works without problems. Could it be people who encountered problems are using 1.7.4 or older (there was a memory leak fixed before 1.8) / are

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-16 Thread G. Allegri
I'm interested in knowing if using clustered temporary files is a possible solution. Marco, your opinion? What do you mean with clustered temp files? giovanni I'm also interested in knowing if somebody ever worked on a 64 bit Windows version of QGIS.. That would be nice for perfs ! (I'm

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-16 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 16/11/2012 08:55, Bernhard Ströbl ha scritto: The print problems on Win32 are a major drawback here as large format plans are needed. Just to illustrate what Luca wrote: We are a city administration running around 1200 PCs with some 500+ applications on WinXP. Hardware is less In this

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-16 Thread Andreas Neumann
The important thing would be to find out in what situation the printing fails? * Is it related to big rasters? * Are WMS used? * Is it failing on all printer or only certain printers? * Is the printer failing (some printers rund out of memory if you send big files) or is QGIS failing? There

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-16 Thread Bernhard Ströbl
I did not thoroughly check now but as far as I remember - with big rasters: yes (only vectors: no) - WMS: yes (have to try again with new tile-option in 1.8) - all printers and pdf/png export - QGIS fails We normlly print in pdf (freePDF or PDFCreator) formats: anything larger than A1 Bernhard

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-16 Thread haubourg
giohappy wrote What do you mean with clustered temp files? giovanni Hi Giovanni, I was refering to swapping method used by Postgis or FME uses for handling large computations. Temporary files are segmented in files that size less than 2Go.. If not, you will encounter same 32 bits OS

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-16 Thread Luca Manganelli
Il 16/11/2012, Bernhard Ströbl bernhard.stro...@jena.de ha scritto: I did not thoroughly check now but as far as I remember - with big rasters: yes (only vectors: no) - WMS: yes (have to try again with new tile-option in 1.8) - all printers and pdf/png export - QGIS fails I can confirm

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-16 Thread G. Allegri
Hi Giovanni, I was refering to swapping method used by Postgis or FME uses for handling large computations. Temporary files are segmented in files that size less than 2Go.. If not, you will encounter same 32 bits OS limitations. Just have a look at /pgsql_tmp of a postgis cluster when running

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-16 Thread Marco Hugentobler
Hi all It needs a bit more examination in which cases the problems occure. It is reasonable to me that there is a crash if 'print as raster' is checked and for the export to image file. In these cases, the whole composer content is rendered into one big image first. It is not clear to me why

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-16 Thread Bernhard Ströbl
Marco, referring to my last mail I can confirm what you write: As soon as I tick Print as raster the print fails, though no crash. Bernhard Am 16.11.2012 12:17, schrieb Marco Hugentobler: Hi all It needs a bit more examination in which cases the problems occure. It is reasonable to me that

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-16 Thread Marco Hugentobler
I just printed a tiff raster layer to A0 pdf with 600 dpi and with a 32bit 1.8 qgis.exe on windows. Works without problems. Could it be people who encountered problems are using 1.7.4 or older (there was a memory leak fixed before 1.8) / are printing 'as raster' / exporting to image? Regards,

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-15 Thread haubourg
I confirm issue on both 1.8 and master. It is related to these tickets: http://hub.qgis.org/issues/3687 http://hub.qgis.org/issues/5840 http://hub.qgis.org/issues/4821 http://hub.qgis.org/issues/6498 I suppose we have problem with large memory usage on 32 bits platforms if it exceeds memory

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-15 Thread G. Allegri
Ok, maybe that's why I'm not facing the issue, being on a 64 bit machine. On Windows I use naively the Task Manager's Resource Monitor to see the memeory usage of my programs. On Linux I use top [1] giovanni [1] http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl1_top.htm 2012/11/15 haubourg

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-15 Thread Marco Hugentobler
Hi Régis I can confirm it is a memory issue and should work with 64bit systems (note: on windows you need a real 64bit build, a 32bit build will have the memory problems even if it runs on 64bit hardware). Regards, Marco On 15.11.2012 10:41, haubourg wrote: I confirm issue on both 1.8 and

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-15 Thread G. Allegri
I can confirm it is a memory issue and should work with 64bit systems (note: on windows you need a real 64bit build, a 32bit build will have the memory problems even if it runs on 64bit hardware). It works with my *real* 64 bit Windows :) giovanni Regards, Marco On 15.11.2012 10:41,

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-15 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 15/11/2012 11:52, G. Allegri ha scritto: I can confirm it is a memory issue and should work with 64bit systems (note: on windows you need a real 64bit build, a 32bit build will have the memory problems even if it runs on 64bit hardware). It works with my *real* 64 bit

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-15 Thread G. Allegri
Hi. You mean you have a qgis compiled on win @ 64 bit? Where did you get it from? Ops, sorry, I meant Linux 64 bit. Windows bit would require to compile all the dependencies as 64 bit! Marco: any hope to fix it also on 32 bit, maybe by swapping to disk, or other? Some resources may

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-15 Thread haubourg
I'm interested in knowing if using clustered temporary files is a possible solution. Marco, your opinion? I'm also interested in knowing if somebody ever worked on a 64 bit Windows version of QGIS.. That would be nice for perfs ! (I'm using WinServer 2008 R2.. 64 bits.). Régis -- View this

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-15 Thread Marco Hugentobler
I'm interested in knowing if using clustered temporary files is a possible solution. Marco, your opinion? I think it is not worth the trouble. Better go with native 64bit builds, the 32 bit machines are disappearing more and more. Regards, Marco On 15.11.2012 17:12, haubourg wrote: I'm

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-15 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 15/11/2012 17:33, Marco Hugentobler ha scritto: I'm interested in knowing if using clustered temporary files is a possible solution. Marco, your opinion? I think it is not worth the trouble. Better go with native 64bit builds, the 32 bit machines are disappearing more and more.

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-15 Thread Luca Manganelli
Il 15/11/2012, qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org ha scritto: Unfortunately, in many Public Administrations here in Italy, the upgrade cycle for hardware is not so fast, so for several years we expect to have still 32 bits (or 64 bit installed with 32 bit win). In any case, I guess a 64 bit

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-15 Thread Bernhard Ströbl
Am 16.11.2012 08:32, schrieb Luca Manganelli: Il 15/11/2012, qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org ha scritto: Unfortunately, in many Public Administrations here in Italy, the upgrade cycle for hardware is not so fast, so for several years we expect to have still 32 bits (or 64 bit installed

[Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-14 Thread Andrea Peri
Hi, When try to plot or export on a pdf an A0 format using the composer. I see sometime the qgis crash. I need to print in A0 few times and so when qgis crash, I simply reduce the quality from 600 dpi to 300 dpi and all go ok. However I like to understand why qgis crash. Infact I read somewhere

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-14 Thread G. Allegri
Are you using qgis from trunk or qgis 1.8? giovanni 2012/11/14 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com Hi, When try to plot or export on a pdf an A0 format using the composer. I see sometime the qgis crash. I need to print in A0 few times and so when qgis crash, I simply reduce the quality from

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-14 Thread Andrea Peri
Both. Usually I try to print firstly with 1.8.0. If it crash , then I try with qgis trunk. Sometime trunk has successful some other time no. 2012/11/14 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com: Are you using qgis from trunk or qgis 1.8? giovanni 2012/11/14 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com Hi, When

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-14 Thread G. Allegri
Could you share a sample project. I suppose you're using the Regione Toscana WMS... 2012/11/14 Andrea Peri aperi2...@gmail.com My print A0 are always with a base map of ortofoto from WMS (using tile option). When try with 1.8.0 is will crash with a messagebox. Using the trunk version

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-14 Thread Andrea Peri
No problema, but AFAIK the qgis problem don't save the print composer. so it should always be recreate. The project is only a layer or two from the RT-WMS. 2012/11/14 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com: Could you share a sample project. I suppose you're using the Regione Toscana WMS...

Re: [Qgis-user] qgis and Large Format Print

2012-11-14 Thread G. Allegri
AFAIK the qgis problem don't save the print composer. so it should always be recreate. ??? It should. It's also used by qgis server to provide print capabilities. Anyway, I'll test it with any RT-WMS, ASAP The project is only a layer or two from the RT-WMS. 2012/11/14 G. Allegri