On 8 Aug 2001, John R. Levine wrote:
> Well, actually, it should be bounced to A-X=V@H, and that's exactly
> where it goes since that's the address that VERP creates. (I presume
> M was a typo for H there.)
Oops. Yes, it should read A-X=V@H.
> >Unfortunately, the return address in the scenario
>Executive summary: qmail breaks VERP under certain circumstances.
Revised executive summary: qmail's VERP works fine, but some people
are more than a little unclear on the way virtual domains work.
>Let H be a host running qmail, A and B users at H, and V a virtual domain
>redirected to B@H. Le
On Mon, Aug 06, 2001 at 01:44:54PM +, Charles M. Hannum wrote:
> > Don't think of Delivered-To: as an address. Think of it as a unique
> > magic cookie derived from email delivery path. You can always
> > reconstruct the address if you know something about the delivery path,
> > and sometime
On 8 Aug 2001, John R. Levine wrote:
> Like I said:
>
> > It's true, qmail doesn't work the way you might first have guessed it
> > does. That doesn't mean it's wrong.
The fact qmail--or any other piece of software--does something does not
mean it is correct.
Executive summary: qmail breaks V
>> Is it really that overwhelmingly difficult to have whatever configures
>> your bounce handler look in /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains to see
>> what prefix to strip off the local part of the VERP address? I
>> suspect either of us could do it in about four lines of perl.
>
>You can turn the
John R. Levine:
> It's true, qmail doesn't work the way you might first have guessed it
> does. That doesn't mean it's wrong.
Well, qmail-send does rewrite the envelope recipient for
local deliveries. That's not a very good thing.
/filip
On 6 Aug 2001, John R. Levine wrote:
> Is it really that overwhelmingly difficult to have whatever configures
> your bounce handler look in /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains to see
> what prefix to strip off the local part of the VERP address? I
> suspect either of us could do it in about four l
>There is no way for the mailing list software to get from
>`[EMAIL PROTECTED]' to
>`[EMAIL PROTECTED]' without having knowledge of virtualdomains.
>That's not an acceptable solution.
Is it really that overwhelmingly difficult to have whatever configures
your bounce handler look in /var/qmail/con
Charles M. Hannum writes:
> There is no way for the mailing list software to get from
> `[EMAIL PROTECTED]' to
> `[EMAIL PROTECTED]' without having knowledge of virtualdomains.
> That's not an acceptable solution.
Why not?
--
-russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.com
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>Charles M. Hannum writes:
>>
>> >> Also, that doesn't resolve my VERP problem.
>> >
>> > Sorry, I thought it did. Why doesn't it?
>>
>> Uhhh, did you *read* my first piece of email? If I get a VERP address
>> of `[EMAIL PROTECTED]',
>> how pray tell is my mailing list software supposed to kn
On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Russell Nelson wrote:
> Charles M. Hannum writes:
> >
> > Uhhh, did you *read* my first piece of email? If I get a VERP address
> > of `[EMAIL PROTECTED]',
> > how pray tell is my mailing list software supposed to know that the
> > mail was actually sent to `[EMAIL PROT
On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Russell Nelson wrote:
> Charles M. Hannum writes:
> >
> > Uhhh, did you *read* my first piece of email? If I get a VERP address
> > of `[EMAIL PROTECTED]',
> > how pray tell is my mailing list software supposed to know that the
> > mail was actually sent to `[EMAIL PROT
Charles M. Hannum writes:
>
> >> Also, that doesn't resolve my VERP problem.
> >
> > Sorry, I thought it did. Why doesn't it?
>
> Uhhh, did you *read* my first piece of email? If I get a VERP address
> of `[EMAIL PROTECTED]',
> how pray tell is my mailing list software supposed to know
>> Also, that doesn't resolve my VERP problem.
>
> Sorry, I thought it did. Why doesn't it?
Uhhh, did you *read* my first piece of email? If I get a VERP address
of `[EMAIL PROTECTED]',
how pray tell is my mailing list software supposed to know that the
mail was actually sent to `[EMAIL PROTEC
Charles M. Hannum writes:
>
> >Charles M. Hannum writes:
> >> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> ...
> >>
> >> This seems very wrong. The Delivered-To: address here isn't even
> >> correct; it should be something the actually exists -- either
> >> `[EMAIL PROTECTED]' or `[EMAIL PROTEC
>Charles M. Hannum writes:
>> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> ...
>>
>> This seems very wrong. The Delivered-To: address here isn't even
>> correct; it should be something the actually exists -- either
>> `[EMAIL PROTECTED]' or `[EMAIL PROTECTED]'.
>
> Don't think of Delivered-To: as an addr
On Thu, Aug 02, 2001 at 09:39:07PM +, Charles M. Hannum wrote:
> In virtualdomains, I have:
>
> spamalicious.com:mycroft-spamalicious
> .spamalicious.com:mycroft-spamalicious
>
> When mail is sent to `[EMAIL PROTECTED]' -- e.g. from majordomo
> (please spare me the majordomo vs. ezmlm flames
I have a mail host -- call it netbsd.org -- that's been running qmail
1.03 for rather a long time. It uses VERP heavily to do automatic
bounce handling for mailing lists. It also uses virtualdomains to
serve a couple of personal vanity domains.
In virtualdomains, I have:
spamalicious.com:mycr
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