Re: check_badrcptto, to prevent backscatter

2011-03-12 Thread Todd
Isn't back scatter exactly the intent of the spammer? Send the spam to invalid addresses with a forged return which is where the reject goes. But you could be right: back scatter may be so specific that these two scripts would be the only ones ever to go into the folder. Addresses or

Re: check_badrcptto, to prevent backscatter

2011-03-12 Thread Chris Lewis
On 3/12/2011 3:19 AM, Todd wrote: Isn't back scatter exactly the intent of the spammer? Send the spam to invalid addresses with a forged return which is where the reject goes. The reality is that spammers use forged sender addresses so their own accounts don't get nuked. Relying on

Re: check_badrcptto, to prevent backscatter

2011-03-11 Thread Tim Meadowcroft
On Friday 11 March 2011 03:41:03 Chris Lewis wrote: I think we'd be better served by coming up with, for example, a qpsmtpd way of doing this sort of thing. For example: for basic RCPT TO functionality, have a basic RCPT time plugin that can handle aliasing, allowable domain relays, lists

Re: check_badrcptto, to prevent backscatter

2011-03-11 Thread Todd Brunhoff
On 3/10/2011 11:27 PM, Robert Spier wrote: Tim Meadowcroft wrote: On Thursday 10 March 2011 18:06:04 Robert Spier wrote: Ask Bjørn Hansen wrote: On Mar 10, 2011, at 6:49, Matt Sergeant wrote: Should we have plugins/qmail and plugins/postfix dirs? I like that idea. I'm not sure I do.

Re: check_badrcptto, to prevent backscatter

2011-03-11 Thread Robert Spier
One solution would be to add a new directory named 'backscatter' and put both scripts in there with the same prefix (check_goodrcptto) and with a distinguishing suffix (_postfix _qmail). That would be clear to people that are interested in the subject. Yes. Except backscatter isn't quite

Re: check_badrcptto, to prevent backscatter

2011-03-11 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen
On Mar 10, 2011, at 19:41, Chris Lewis wrote: I think we'd be better served by coming up with, for example, a qpsmtpd way of doing this sort of thing. For example: for basic RCPT TO functionality, have a basic RCPT time plugin that can handle aliasing, allowable domain relays, lists of

Re: check_badrcptto, to prevent backscatter

2011-03-10 Thread Matt Sergeant
Should we have plugins/qmail and plugins/postfix dirs? Todd Brunhoff wrote: Tim's view seems appropriate. His script is centered on qmail, and mine is centered on postfix (or more specifically, on /etc/aliases). Both scripts are probably best in their current form with appropriate

Re: check_badrcptto, to prevent backscatter

2011-03-10 Thread Todd
Works 4 me. -- Sent from my Android. Matt Sergeant m...@sergeant.org wrote: Should we have plugins/qmail and plugins/postfix dirs? Todd Brunhoff wrote: Tim's view seems appropriate. His script is centered on qmail, and mine is centered on postfix (or more specifically, on /etc/aliases).

Re: check_badrcptto, to prevent backscatter

2011-03-10 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen
On Mar 10, 2011, at 6:49, Matt Sergeant wrote: Should we have plugins/qmail and plugins/postfix dirs? I like that idea. - ask

Re: check_badrcptto, to prevent backscatter

2011-03-10 Thread Robert Spier
Ask Bjørn Hansen wrote: On Mar 10, 2011, at 6:49, Matt Sergeant wrote: Should we have plugins/qmail and plugins/postfix dirs? I like that idea. I'm not sure I do. The existing directories don't really line up that way, and I don't think we're going to have a huge number of

Re: check_badrcptto, to prevent backscatter

2011-03-10 Thread Tim Meadowcroft
On Thursday 10 March 2011 18:06:04 Robert Spier wrote: Ask Bjørn Hansen wrote: On Mar 10, 2011, at 6:49, Matt Sergeant wrote: Should we have plugins/qmail and plugins/postfix dirs? I like that idea. I'm not sure I do. The existing directories don't really line up that way, and I

Re: check_badrcptto, to prevent backscatter

2011-03-10 Thread Chris Lewis
On 3/10/2011 12:43 PM, Ask Bjørn Hansen wrote: On Mar 10, 2011, at 6:49, Matt Sergeant wrote: Should we have plugins/qmail and plugins/postfix dirs? I like that idea. I think we'd be better served by coming up with, for example, a qpsmtpd way of doing this sort of thing. For example:

Re: check_badrcptto, to prevent backscatter

2011-03-10 Thread Robert Spier
Tim Meadowcroft wrote: On Thursday 10 March 2011 18:06:04 Robert Spier wrote: Ask Bjørn Hansen wrote: On Mar 10, 2011, at 6:49, Matt Sergeant wrote: Should we have plugins/qmail and plugins/postfix dirs? I like that idea. I'm not sure I do. The existing directories don't

Re: check_badrcptto, to prevent backscatter

2011-03-09 Thread Tim Meadowcroft
On Sunday 06 March 2011 06:42:50 Robert Spier wrote: Todd Brunhoff wrote: Your scripts look like they have a good deal of qmail sophistication. Some years ago I ran qmail 1.0.3, after each major system crash, I would revisit whether to use qmail, and eventually decided to switch

Re: check_badrcptto, to prevent backscatter

2011-03-09 Thread Todd Brunhoff
Tim's view seems appropriate. His script is centered on qmail, and mine is centered on postfix (or more specifically, on /etc/aliases). Both scripts are probably best in their current form with appropriate disclosures. Let me know if there is any prep work you would like me to do to my

Re: check_badrcptto, to prevent backscatter

2011-03-05 Thread Robert Spier
Todd Brunhoff wrote: Your scripts look like they have a good deal of qmail sophistication. Some years ago I ran qmail 1.0.3, after each major system crash, I would revisit whether to use qmail, and eventually decided to switch to qpsmtp+postfix because both seem to have better

Re: check_badrcptto, to prevent backscatter

2011-02-05 Thread Todd Brunhoff
Your scripts look like they have a good deal of qmail sophistication. Some years ago I ran qmail 1.0.3, after each major system crash, I would revisit whether to use qmail, and eventually decided to switch to qpsmtp+postfix because both seem to have better support. And in fact, the reason I