Re: [qubes-users] Coreboot VS Libreboot :: Which is better for Qubes OS ?

2017-11-05 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 11/06/2017 01:28 AM, 'Marek Jenkins' via qubes-users wrote: 63xx/43xx is fine as long as you include a microcode update, you need to use coreboot for those but it will do it automatically by default. Is that only the case with Coreboot BIOS or also with the stock BIOS ? Coreboot, not sure ab

Re: [qubes-users] Coreboot VS Libreboot :: Which is better for Qubes OS ?

2017-11-05 Thread 'Marek Jenkins' via qubes-users
> 63xx/43xx is fine as long as you include a microcode update, you need to > use coreboot for those but it will do it automatically by default. Is that only the case with Coreboot BIOS or also with the stock BIOS ? > > I just told Holger I probably would postpone the installation of Coreboot,

Re: [qubes-users] Coreboot VS Libreboot :: Which is better for Qubes OS ?

2017-11-05 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 11/04/2017 09:12 PM, 'Marek Jenkins' via qubes-users wrote: What is the difference between Coreboot and Libreboot ? Philosophy, that's it. Coreboot is sterile and corporate (as evidenced by not only the quiet acceptance of boards with closed source init but the removal of older open source

Re: [qubes-users] Coreboot VS Libreboot :: Which is better for Qubes OS ?

2017-11-04 Thread 'Marek Jenkins' via qubes-users
On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 1:55:04 AM UTC+1, tai...@gmx.com wrote: > On 11/04/2017 08:42 PM, 'Marek Jenkins' via qubes-users wrote: > > > If I choose an older mainboard from AMD for example, which doesn't have all > > those bad technologies built-in, I am still much more secure than the > >

Re: [qubes-users] Coreboot VS Libreboot :: Which is better for Qubes OS ?

2017-11-04 Thread 'Marek Jenkins' via qubes-users
On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 1:55:04 AM UTC+1, tai...@gmx.com wrote: > On 11/04/2017 08:42 PM, 'Marek Jenkins' via qubes-users wrote: > > > If I choose an older mainboard from AMD for example, which doesn't have all > > those bad technologies built-in, I am still much more secure than the > >

Re: [qubes-users] Coreboot VS Libreboot :: Which is better for Qubes OS ?

2017-11-04 Thread 'Marek Jenkins' via qubes-users
> > What is the difference between Coreboot and Libreboot ? > Philosophy, that's it. > > Coreboot is sterile and corporate (as evidenced by not only the quiet > acceptance of boards with closed source init but the removal of older > open source boards from the tree, most people in the project and

Re: [qubes-users] Coreboot VS Libreboot :: Which is better for Qubes OS ?

2017-11-04 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 11/04/2017 08:42 PM, 'Marek Jenkins' via qubes-users wrote: If I choose an older mainboard from AMD for example, which doesn't have all those bad technologies built-in, I am still much more secure than the average guy with a new Intel CPU, right ? Yeah definitely. For instance a H8SCM can

Re: [qubes-users] Coreboot VS Libreboot :: Which is better for Qubes OS ?

2017-11-04 Thread 'Marek Jenkins' via qubes-users
On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 12:10:26 AM UTC+1, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Sat, Nov 04, 2017 at 03:53:32PM -0700, 'Marek Jenkins' via qubes-users > wrote: > > so from my understanding, "blobs" is a synonym for proprietary code, right ? > > it's a synonym for "binary object" where in general you

Re: [qubes-users] Coreboot VS Libreboot :: Which is better for Qubes OS ?

2017-11-04 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 11/04/2017 01:57 PM, 'Marek Jenkins' via qubes-users wrote: What is the difference between Coreboot and Libreboot ? Philosophy, that's it. Coreboot is sterile and corporate (as evidenced by not only the quiet acceptance of boards with closed source init but the removal of older open sourc

Re: [qubes-users] Coreboot VS Libreboot :: Which is better for Qubes OS ?

2017-11-04 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sat, Nov 04, 2017 at 03:53:32PM -0700, 'Marek Jenkins' via qubes-users wrote: > so from my understanding, "blobs" is a synonym for proprietary code, right ? it's a synonym for "binary object" where in general you don't have the source code. > I mean if it doesn't really matter for security I

Re: [qubes-users] Coreboot VS Libreboot :: Which is better for Qubes OS ?

2017-11-04 Thread 'Marek Jenkins' via qubes-users
On Saturday, November 4, 2017 at 10:47:12 PM UTC+1, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Sat, Nov 04, 2017 at 10:57:30AM -0700, 'Marek Jenkins' via qubes-users > wrote: > > What is the difference between Coreboot and Libreboot ? > > Libreboot is Coreboot with all the non-free blobs removed (and no free > so

Re: [qubes-users] Coreboot VS Libreboot :: Which is better for Qubes OS ?

2017-11-04 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sat, Nov 04, 2017 at 10:57:30AM -0700, 'Marek Jenkins' via qubes-users wrote: > What is the difference between Coreboot and Libreboot ? Libreboot is Coreboot with all the non-free blobs removed (and no free software added instead). So if you happen to have hardware which needs those blobs, you

[qubes-users] Coreboot VS Libreboot :: Which is better for Qubes OS ?

2017-11-04 Thread 'Marek Jenkins' via qubes-users
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