Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2017-10-01 Thread Unman
On Sun, Oct 01, 2017 at 06:29:10AM -0700, nhe...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 4:39:40 AM UTC+8, Manuel Amador (Rudd-O) wrote: > > On 06/17/2016 04:11 AM, Drew White wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, 15 May 2016 14:05:50 UTC+10, Jeremy Rand wrote: > > > > > > FWIW, I think

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2017-10-01 Thread nheger
On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 4:39:40 AM UTC+8, Manuel Amador (Rudd-O) wrote: > On 06/17/2016 04:11 AM, Drew White wrote: > > > > > > On Sunday, 15 May 2016 14:05:50 UTC+10, Jeremy Rand wrote: > > > > FWIW, I think a legal argument could be made that such license > > agreements are anti-co

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2017-04-02 Thread Eric
On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 5:09:05 PM UTC-7, Drew White wrote: > On Sunday, 2 April 2017 10:31:36 UTC+10, Eric wrote: > > Most of the following removed for brevity: > > > > On Sunday, November 6, 2016 at 4:37:15 AM UTC-8, Achim Patzner wrote: > > > > > > Point is: You can't buy a valid license

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2017-04-02 Thread Eric
On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 5:09:05 PM UTC-7, Drew White wrote: > > >The thing about the licensing is that IF you get permission from Apple to use >the OS under Qubes then you can. Even if it is not on Apple Hardware. Good luck. Apple has not done this for ANYONE, even the big names, since Steve

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2017-04-02 Thread Eric
On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 5:09:05 PM UTC-7, Drew White wrote: > > > The thing about the licensing is that IF you get permission from Apple to use > the OS under Qubes then you can. Even if it is not on Apple Hardware. Good luck. Apple has not done this for ANYONE, even the big names, since St

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2017-04-02 Thread Vít Šesták
> The thing about the licensing is that IF you get permission from Apple to use > the OS under Qubes then you can. Even if it is not on Apple Hardware. Sure. This, however, essentiually means you get a different license. Well, anything that the original license does not allow can be solved by li

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2017-04-02 Thread Drew White
On Sunday, 2 April 2017 10:31:36 UTC+10, Eric wrote: > Most of the following removed for brevity: > > On Sunday, November 6, 2016 at 4:37:15 AM UTC-8, Achim Patzner wrote: > > > > Point is: You can't buy a valid license without buying a machine with > > it. I guess you could buy *heaps* of Mac

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2017-04-01 Thread Eric
On Saturday, April 1, 2017 at 5:31:36 PM UTC-7, Eric wrote: > 4) google a bunch (IIRC there is some info floating around on the QEMU > mailing list that might help). http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~somlo/OSXKVM/ looks like Eric Shelton who provided the patches up-thread did most of the wor

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2017-04-01 Thread Eric
Most of the following removed for brevity: On Sunday, November 6, 2016 at 4:37:15 AM UTC-8, Achim Patzner wrote: > > Point is: You can't buy a valid license without buying a machine with > it. I guess you could buy *heaps* of Mac mini just to obtain licenses... > Just like having to buy defect

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2017-04-01 Thread Eric
On Sunday, November 6, 2016 at 4:37:15 AM UTC-8, Achim Patzner wrote: [etc etc etc etc removed for brevity] > > Point is: You can't buy a valid license without buying a machine with > it. I guess you could buy *heaps* of Mac mini just to obtain licenses... > Just like having to buy defective pow

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2016-11-06 Thread Drew White
On Monday, 7 November 2016 01:54:50 UTC+11, Dominik Dorn wrote: > The current VMWare Fusion v8 allows to run multiple instances of OSX. > They even advertise it on their website: > http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion.html > "macOS Sierra-Ready > Launch virtual machines on Macs with macOS 10.12

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2016-11-06 Thread Dominik Dorn
The current VMWare Fusion v8 allows to run multiple instances of OSX. They even advertise it on their website: http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion.html "macOS Sierra-Ready Launch virtual machines on Macs with macOS 10.12 Sierra, or safely test the new macOS in a sandbox on your current Mac withou

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2016-11-06 Thread Achim Patzner
Am 06.11.2016 um 10:42 schrieb Alex: > On 11/06/2016 10:31 AM, Jeremy Rand wrote: > Actually reading the license of OSX available at > https://store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Images/MacOSX.htm is very easy > because they are awfully short and simple, compared to a lot of other > software. > > And in 2.

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2016-11-06 Thread Alex
On 11/06/2016 10:31 AM, Jeremy Rand wrote: > Manuel Amador (Rudd-O): >> On 06/17/2016 04:11 AM, Drew White wrote: >>> >>> Well, in the end, I own a mac, It's not breaking any agreement >>> or anything for me wanting to run it. >> >> Yeah you are. Check the licensing terms for the Mac OS X softwa

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2016-11-06 Thread Jeremy Rand
Manuel Amador (Rudd-O): > On 06/17/2016 04:11 AM, Drew White wrote: >> >> >> On Sunday, 15 May 2016 14:05:50 UTC+10, Jeremy Rand wrote: >> >> FWIW, I think a legal argument could be made that such license >> agreements are anti-competitive and therefore unenforceable. >> However, >>

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2016-10-30 Thread Manuel Amador (Rudd-O)
On 06/17/2016 04:11 AM, Drew White wrote: > > > On Sunday, 15 May 2016 14:05:50 UTC+10, Jeremy Rand wrote: > > FWIW, I think a legal argument could be made that such license > agreements are anti-competitive and therefore unenforceable. > However, > I am unaware of any specific pre

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2016-10-29 Thread Eric Shelton
On Saturday, October 29, 2016 at 12:54:11 PM UTC-4, Andrew David Wong wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 2016-10-29 09:19, Dominik Dorn wrote: > > [image: Inline image 1] > > > > > > Hmm.. just noticed that it does not say "we support os x"... still a little > > mi

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2016-10-29 Thread Andrew David Wong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2016-10-29 09:19, Dominik Dorn wrote: > [image: Inline image 1] > > > Hmm.. just noticed that it does not say "we support os x"... still a little > misleading.. > Oh, that's just Google giving you a preview of our "What is Qubes OS?" explanati

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2016-10-29 Thread Andrew David Wong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2016-10-29 07:52, domi...@dominikdorn.com wrote: > Hi.. just chiming in... > > I came here because of all the hype that's going on about Cubes-OS at the > moment, mainly because of the Snowden movie. I liked what I've seen in the > video tour.

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2016-10-29 Thread dominik
Hi.. just chiming in... I came here because of all the hype that's going on about Cubes-OS at the moment, mainly because of the Snowden movie. I liked what I've seen in the video tour. On the main website, Cubes-OS is advertising that its able to run Mac OS X and iOS. I also own a Macbook Pro

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2016-06-17 Thread niels
> On June 17, 2016 at 11:47 AM Achim Patzner wrote: > > > Am 17.06.2016 um 06:11 schrieb Drew White: > > Well, in the end, I own a mac, It's not breaking any agreement or > > anything for me wanting to run it. > > You didn't read the license very well, then. Depending on the version of > Mac

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2016-06-17 Thread Achim Patzner
Am 17.06.2016 um 06:11 schrieb Drew White: Well, in the end, I own a mac, It's not breaking any agreement or anything for me wanting to run it. You didn't read the license very well, then. Depending on the version of Mac OS X you bought as part of your machine there are several restrictions (

Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3 MacOSX

2016-06-16 Thread Drew White
On Sunday, 15 May 2016 14:05:50 UTC+10, Jeremy Rand wrote: > > FWIW, I think a legal argument could be made that such license > agreements are anti-competitive and therefore unenforceable. However, > I am unaware of any specific precedent for this argument, so it would > indeed probably be un