Re: [ntp:questions] Do logs indicate a config problem?

2010-07-16 Thread Ulrich Windl
David Lord writes: > Do logs indicate a config problem? > > system server1: MSFa, PPSa peer=server2 and remote servers > system server2: peer=server1 and remote servers > system server3: GPSb, PPSb, server2 and server1 > > > This is total logged over period Feb 7 to Feb 12: > ntp.log.server

Re: [ntp:questions] effect of NTP on CPU_FREQ

2010-07-16 Thread Ulrich Windl
Lei Wang writes: > Hi, > > I did some measurement using NTP with Linux RTAI. The measurement is > conducted using a GPS hooked up through serial port to the PC and using the > 1PPS of the GPS to trigger an ISR to read both the TSC counter and TSC > counter scaled to nanoseconds. The TSC counte

Re: [ntp:questions] Recommendations for good NIC cards

2010-07-16 Thread Ulrich Windl
"Russell, David" writes: > I have seen several comments saying that the NIC card in an NTP client can > make a difference in how well NTP will perform. > > My servers are Dells running RedHat. > > Does anyone have any recommendations for a particularly good NIC card for > Gigabit speeds? I am

Re: [ntp:questions] Change reference clock soon afterDCF-signalislost

2010-07-16 Thread Matuschka, Sebastian
>I think you mean that you have a 1PPS source that is synchronized to >DCF-77 but does not send the actual received DCF-77 signal. >In that case it should be OK to use it to increment a clock. No, it really is a DCF-77 signal. >However, when you have expectations that you can control what source

Re: [ntp:questions] Do logs indicate a config problem?

2010-07-16 Thread David Lord
Ulrich Windl wrote: David Lord writes: Do logs indicate a config problem? system server1: MSFa, PPSa peer=server2 and remote servers system server2: peer=server1 and remote servers system server3: GPSb, PPSb, server2 and server1 This is total logged over period Feb 7 to Feb 12: ntp.lo

Re: [ntp:questions] Change reference clock soon afterDCF-signalislost

2010-07-16 Thread Matuschka, Sebastian
>> Sorry, i forgot to mention an important thing: >> The DCF-77 Signal is generated by a precise clock that is connected via >> fiber optics to the device the ntpd runs at. >> The distance isn't very long, so i can expect that the signal is very >> precisely and there is no jitter nor any (relevan

Re: [ntp:questions] Change reference clock soon afterDCF-signalislost

2010-07-16 Thread Rob
Matuschka, Sebastian wrote: > >>I think you mean that you have a 1PPS source that is synchronized to >>DCF-77 but does not send the actual received DCF-77 signal. >>In that case it should be OK to use it to increment a clock. > > No, it really is a DCF-77 signal. > >>However, when you have expecta

Re: [ntp:questions] Change reference clock soon afterDCF-signalislost

2010-07-16 Thread John Hasler
Matuschka, Sebastian writes: > No, it really is a DCF-77 signal. But earlier you wrote: > The DCF-77 Signal is generated by a precise clock that is connected > via fiber optics to the device the ntpd runs at. The distance isn't > very long, so i can expect that the signal is very precisely and th

Re: [ntp:questions] Change reference clock soon afterDCF-signalislost

2010-07-16 Thread Rob
Matuschka, Sebastian wrote: >>You are also still hiding stuff and expecting us to guess. > That's absolutely not my intention. I just want to write only the things that > are relevant, so people don't have to read so much they decide to not read it > at all. > What could be of intereset for you?

Re: [ntp:questions] Change reference clock soon after DCF-signal islost

2010-07-16 Thread John Hasler
Sebastian writes: > The reason i want to switch very soon to another source when DCF77 > signal is lost, is that I have to tell a FPGA when it should use the > DCF77 signal and when to use an alternative source. The FPGA doesn't > decodes the time but it uses the DCF77 signal to increment its > int

Re: [ntp:questions] Maximum time2 fudge value for NMEA refclock?

2010-07-16 Thread jimmyterrence
On Jul 16, 1:56 am, "David J Taylor" wrote: > > Is there a maximum fudge value above which the NMEA refclock throws > > away input? Both my 18xLVC GPS receivers output serial data about 550 > > ms after the PPS signal. That works fine with gpsd, but I've been > > trying to set up the NMEA driver w

Re: [ntp:questions] Maximum time2 fudge value for NMEA refclock?

2010-07-16 Thread David J Taylor
"jimmyterrence" wrote in message news:1c01938f-d43e-4dea-a143-45e096d31...@j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... [] If it was triggering on the wrong edge of the pps signal, wouldn't it be off of the rest of the servers by the length of the pulse? I think that it's triggering properly. Agreed. M

Re: [ntp:questions] Do logs indicate a config problem?

2010-07-16 Thread David L. Mills
Ulrich, From context I suspect Linux has incorporated the PPS kernel discipline code I wrote in the 1990s. That code has several provisions to groom noisy PPS signals, including a median filter, popcorn spike suppressor and range gate. Apparently, the PPS signal in this case is very noisy and

Re: [ntp:questions] Change reference clock soon afterDCF-signalislost

2010-07-16 Thread unruh
On 2010-07-16, Matuschka, Sebastian wrote: > >>> Sorry, i forgot to mention an important thing: >>> The DCF-77 Signal is generated by a precise clock that is connected via >>> fiber optics to the device the ntpd runs at. >>> The distance isn't very long, so i can expect that the signal is very >>

Re: [ntp:questions] Change reference clock soon afterDCF-signalislost

2010-07-16 Thread unruh
On 2010-07-16, Matuschka, Sebastian wrote: > >>I think you mean that you have a 1PPS source that is synchronized to >>DCF-77 but does not send the actual received DCF-77 signal. >>In that case it should be OK to use it to increment a clock. > > No, it really is a DCF-77 signal. Uh, why don't you

Re: [ntp:questions] Maximum time2 fudge value for NMEA refclock?

2010-07-16 Thread jimmyterrence
On Jul 16, 9:45 am, "David J Taylor" wrote: > "jimmyterrence" wrote in message > > news:1c01938f-d43e-4dea-a143-45e096d31...@j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... > [] > > > If it was triggering on the wrong edge of the pps signal, wouldn't it > > be off of the rest of the servers by the length of the p

Re: [ntp:questions] Single best NTP status indicator of clock accuracy?

2010-07-16 Thread David Woolley
This thread has been dormant for more than 7 months! Ulrich Windl wrote: kjans writes: There seems to be several possibilities: - delay or offset or jitter (from ntpq -clpeers) Does not include systematic error. - sync distance (from ntptrace) Extremely pessimistic. - ma

Re: [ntp:questions] Do logs indicate a config problem?

2010-07-16 Thread David Lord
David Lord wrote: 16 July 09:56:27 ntpd exiting 09:56:39 clock PPS(2) event clk_noreply 10:01:01 synch to GPS_NMEA(2), stratum 0 10:01:01 kernel time sync status change 0x2101 10:02:02 kernel time sync status change 0x2107 10:02:17 synchronized to PPS(2), stratum 0 and "ntpq -p" gives PPS(2) of

Re: [ntp:questions] Maximum time2 fudge value for NMEA refclock?

2010-07-16 Thread Hal Murray
>I created a symlink called gps0 to my serial port ttyS0, because it >told me that in the logs when I tried to start up ntpd without it. > >Can somebody who uses the NMEA driver in linux tell me if there is >something else that I should have compiled in? gpsd works fine, but >every time I switch t