Re: [ntp:questions] What level of timesynch error is typical onWinXP?

2010-11-03 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 10:03:30PM +, David L. Mills wrote: > I ran the same test here on four different machines with the > expected results. These included Solaris on both SPARC and Intel > machines, as well as two FreeBSD machines. I tested with and without > the kernel, with initial offset

[ntp:questions] Local clock - sync issue

2010-11-03 Thread Stephen Vaughan
Hi, We're having an issue with an NTPD whereby it's defaulting (or whatever the correct terminology is) to the LOCAL clock, this is occurring when one of our servers loses connectivity. We have 4 server's setup and the local clock is also configured: server 127.127.1.0 # local clock fudge

Re: [ntp:questions] What level of timesynch error is typical onWinXP?

2010-11-03 Thread David L. Mills
Mirosalv, Why didn't you tell me you are using Linux? All bets are off. You are on your own. The daemon clamps the adjtime() (sic) offset to 500 PPM, which is consistent with ordinary Unix semantics. The Unix adjtime() syscall can return the amount of time not amortized since the lasdt call

Re: [ntp:questions] What level of timesynch error is typical onWinXP?

2010-11-03 Thread Dave Hart
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 09:24 UTC, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: > On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 10:03:30PM +, David L. Mills wrote: >> I ran the same test here on four different machines with the >> expected results. These included Solaris on both SPARC and Intel >> machines, as well as two FreeBSD machin

Re: [ntp:questions] What level of timesynch error is typical onWinXP?

2010-11-03 Thread David L. Mills
Dave, I don't think that is right. The adjtime() call can be in principle anything, accoridng to the Solaris and FreeBSD man pages, but the rate of adjustment is fixed at 500 PPM in the Unix implementation. If the Linux argument is limited to 500 microseconds, Linux is essentially unusable wi

Re: [ntp:questions] Local clock - sync issue

2010-11-03 Thread Kevin Oberman
> From: Stephen Vaughan > Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 23:13:47 -0700 > Sender: questions-bounces+oberman=es@lists.ntp.org > > Hi, > > We're having an issue with an NTPD whereby it's defaulting (or > whatever the correct terminology is) to the LOCAL clock, this is > occurring when one of our server

Re: [ntp:questions] What level of timesynch error is typical onWinXP?

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David L. Mills wrote: > I don't think that is right. The adjtime() call can be in > principle anything, accoridng to the Solaris and FreeBSD > man pages, but the rate of adjustment is fixed at 500 PPM > in the Unix implementation. If the Linux argument is > limited to 500 microseconds, Linux i

Re: [ntp:questions] What level of timesynch error is typical onWinXP?

2010-11-03 Thread E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists
David L. Mills wrote: > > I don't think that is right. The adjtime() call can be in > > principle anything, accoridng to the Solaris and FreeBSD > > man pages, but the rate of adjustment is fixed at 500 PPM > > in the Unix implementation. If the Linux argument is > > limited to 500 microsecond

Re: [ntp:questions] What level of timesynch error is typical onWinXP?

2010-11-03 Thread David Woolley
David L. Mills wrote: I don't think that is right. The adjtime() call can be in principle anything, accoridng to the Solaris and FreeBSD man pages, but the rate of adjustment is fixed at 500 PPM in the Unix implementation. If the Linux argument is limited to 500 microseconds, Linux is essentia

Re: [ntp:questions] Local clock - sync issue

2010-11-03 Thread Stephen Vaughan
Hi Kevin, I'm not sure why we have it in there, as you say it might have been part of the default config in Redhat's EL ntp package. And yep, I don't understand why it's reverting to the LOCAL clock and then just deciding to stick with it until we restart ntp. Cheers, Stephen -Original M

Re: [ntp:questions] Local clock - sync issue

2010-11-03 Thread E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists
Stephen Vaughan wrote: > I'm not sure why we have it in there, as you say it might > have been part of the default config in Redhat's EL ntp > package. And yep, I don't understand why it's reverting > to the LOCAL clock and then just deciding to stick with > it until we restart ntp. > >> server

Re: [ntp:questions] Local clock - sync issue

2010-11-03 Thread David Lord
Stephen Vaughan wrote: Hi Kevin, I'm not sure why we have it in there, as you say it might have been part of the default config in Redhat's EL ntp package. And yep, I don't understand why it's reverting to the LOCAL clock and then just deciding to stick with it until we restart ntp. Until

Re: [ntp:questions] What level of timesynch error is typical onWinXP?

2010-11-03 Thread David L. Mills
David, In Mirsolav's test, the frequency was computed at 172 PPM, which is well within the capabilities of the algorithm. On the other hand, even if the intrinsic hardware frequency error is more than 500 PPM, the frequency will be set to 500 PPM and the daemon will continue normally, but will