Re: [ntp:questions] Flash 400 on all peers; can't get ntpd to be happy

2011-03-07 Thread Ralph
@Richard I know that one shapshot is very early on but if you look at the start of the thread you can see information on what things look like after it has been running a while and in that second output of the two in that last post you can see that it is quickly headed in that direction after

Re: [ntp:questions] Beginner needs help...

2011-03-07 Thread David Woolley
Chris Albertson wrote: If you are on an isolated network a better setup is to put three SERVER lines in each config file where each of the tree computers has itself and the other two to select from. ntp will find the best clock That's a recipe for disaster. If you are a rime island and you

Re: [ntp:questions] Beginner needs help...

2011-03-07 Thread David Woolley
Robert Hegner wrote: Can W32time act as a server for the Meinberg NTP version on my other computers? Is there a special configuration needed for this to work? With my unmodified config files on 192.168.0.2 and 192.168.0.3, these computers don't reach a time server on 192.168.0.1. Modern

Re: [ntp:questions] Flash 400 on all peers; can't get ntpd to be happy

2011-03-07 Thread Ralph
Can it even be fixed? Well I hope so. Not to bash on the linux world, but I don't get why this timing thing is so hard... I mean I understand it from a techinical perspective because I've read all about how the hardware and timers and stuff work, but practically speaking, somebody needs

Re: [ntp:questions] Flash 400 on all peers; can't get ntpd to be happy

2011-03-07 Thread Ralph
Yes this is a VM (see other ealier posts about that). I've been trying to get the clock to behave but haven't found the solution. Some people seem to think there isn't an answer. I'm not after super accurate time here, I just want my clock to stay within a minute or two of what actual time

Re: [ntp:questions] Beginner needs help...

2011-03-07 Thread David Woolley
Robert Hegner wrote: The configuration file for 192.168.0.1 contains the following two lines: server 127.127.1.1 fudge 127.127.1.1 stratum 1 This stratum is considered bad practice. If the machine had actually been having its clock disciplined externally to true UTC time, the stratum 6 in

Re: [ntp:questions] Flash 400 on all peers; can't get ntpd to be happy

2011-03-07 Thread Ralph
Any idea how to get a clock correction on a MS Virtual PC / Virtual Server? Last time I tried to install the MS VPC tools for linux on a machine it thoroughly hosed things up; so unless there is a new an improved version I'm a little hesitant to go there agian.

Re: [ntp:questions] Beginner needs help...

2011-03-07 Thread David Woolley
Chris Albertson wrote: On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Robert Hegner robert.heg...@hsr.ch wrote: domain policies do not allow the NTP service to set the time. That needs to be fixed. Kill the service that sets the time. NTP can not coexist with another program that sets the local clock.

Re: [ntp:questions] Beginner needs help...

2011-03-07 Thread Harlan Stenn
David wrote: The configuration file for 192.168.0.1 contains the following two lines: server 127.127.1.1 fudge 127.127.1.1 stratum 1 This stratum is considered bad practice. If the machine had actually been having its clock disciplined externally to true UTC time, the stratum 6

Re: [ntp:questions] Flash 400 on all peers; can't get ntpd to be happy

2011-03-07 Thread David Woolley
Ralph wrote: Can it even be fixed? Well I hope so. Not to bash on the linux world, but I don't get why this timing thing is so hard... I mean I understand it from a techinical perspective because I've read all about how the hardware and timers and stuff work, but practically speaking,

Re: [ntp:questions] Beginner needs help...

2011-03-07 Thread David J Taylor
Hi all [] Robert Robert, You have had some good advice from other here. I have various Windows systems here running NTP, with offsets of less than 100 microseconds (Windows-7, PC Stamsund, with an attached GPS/PPS device) and less than 1 millisecond (Windows XP, PC Narvik, LAN-synced).

Re: [ntp:questions] Beginner needs help...

2011-03-07 Thread Terje Mathisen
David Woolley wrote: Chris Albertson wrote: If you are on an isolated network a better setup is to put three SERVER lines in each config file where each of the tree computers has itself and the other two to select from. ntp will find the best clock That's a recipe for disaster. If you are a

Re: [ntp:questions] Flash 400 on all peers; can't get ntpd to be happy

2011-03-07 Thread Richard B. Gilbert
On 3/6/2011 4:48 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Ralphra...@depth.net wrote: It is a VM, which I'm sure is why the clock isn't playing nice but I haven't found the right solution to fix it.. Can it even be fixed? I'd guess maybe not. Has anyone here run ntpd

Re: [ntp:questions] Flash 400 on all peers; can't get ntpd to be happy

2011-03-07 Thread Richard B. Gilbert
On 3/7/2011 3:00 AM, Ralph wrote: Yes this is a VM (see other ealier posts about that). I've been trying to get the clock to behave but haven't found the solution. Some people seem to think there isn't an answer. I'm not after super accurate time here, I just want my clock to stay within a

Re: [ntp:questions] Flash 400 on all peers; can't get ntpd to be happy

2011-03-07 Thread unruh
On 2011-03-06, Ralph ra...@depth.net wrote: It is a VM, which I'm sure is why the clock isn't playing nice but I haven't found the right solution to fix it... The clock was running fast until I added the divider=10 option and now it runs slow - but I rather have ntp have to move the clock

Re: [ntp:questions] Flash 400 on all peers; can't get ntpd to be happy

2011-03-07 Thread unruh
On 2011-03-07, Ralph ra...@depth.net wrote: Can it even be fixed? Well I hope so. Not to bash on the linux world, but I don't get why this timing thing is so hard... I mean I understand it from a techinical perspective because I've read all about how the hardware and timers and stuff

Re: [ntp:questions] Flash 400 on all peers; can't get ntpd to be happy

2011-03-07 Thread E-Mail Sent to this address will be added to the BlackLists
Ralph wrote: Not to bash on the linux world, but I don't get why this timing thing is so hard... I mean I understand it from a techinical perspective because I've read all about how the hardware and timers and stuff work, but practically speaking, somebody needs to get with the program

Re: [ntp:questions] Flash 400 on all peers; can't get ntpd to be happy

2011-03-07 Thread Uwe Klein
Ralph wrote: Can it even be fixed? Well I hope so. Not to bash on the linux world, but I don't get why this timing thing is so hard... I mean I understand it from a techinical perspective because I've read all about how the hardware and timers and stuff work, but practically speaking,

Re: [ntp:questions] Beginner needs help...

2011-03-07 Thread David Woolley
Terje Mathisen wrote: David Woolley wrote: Chris Albertson wrote: If you are on an isolated network a better setup is to put three SERVER lines in each config file where each of the tree computers has itself and the other two to select from. ntp will find the best clock That's a recipe for

Re: [ntp:questions] Beginner needs help...

2011-03-07 Thread Chris Albertson
On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 2:11 PM, David Woolley david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid wrote: Terje Mathisen wrote: David Woolley wrote: Chris Albertson wrote: If you are on an isolated network a better setup is to put three SERVER lines in each config file where each of the tree computers has