Re: [ntp:questions] Setting back-up network servers to minpoll 10 automatically when sychronizied to a referrence clock.

2011-07-15 Thread David J Taylor
"Edward T. Mischanko" wrote in message news:ivk80m$4uh$1...@speranza.aioe.org... I am using GPS with PPS as my primary time source. I don't want to set my back-up network servers to minpoll 10 in the configuration because if the GPS ever fails the servers would be fixed at minpoll 10. I propo

Re: [ntp:questions] Single GPS/PPS time source gets marked as afalseticker

2011-07-15 Thread David J Taylor
"Michael Eder" wrote in message news:000c01cc408b$6699f7a0$33cde6e0$@whoi.edu... Hi Folks, For our buoy deployments we have GPS and a highly accurate oscillator conditioned by the GPS PPS. Unfortunately when we let this run for longer periods we see both the GPS and PPS being marked as false

Re: [ntp:questions] Single GPS/PPS time source gets marked as a falseticker

2011-07-15 Thread Michael Eder
Again we are talking effectively what happens. There is a good deal of logic what to do if the NMEA and/or pps does not come in and if the system clock is significantly different from either the NMEA or pps. A whole day on the lab bench with a scope on both the pps and the NMEA these never happen

Re: [ntp:questions] Single GPS/PPS time source gets marked as a falseticker

2011-07-15 Thread unruh
On 2011-07-15, Michael Eder wrote: > Again we are talking effectively what happens. There is a good deal of > logic what to do if the NMEA and/or pps does not come in and if the system > clock is significantly different from either the NMEA or pps. A whole day > on the lab bench with a scope on

Re: [ntp:questions] Single GPS/PPS time source gets marked as a falseticker

2011-07-15 Thread David Lord
Michael Eder wrote: Again we are talking effectively what happens. There is a good deal of logic what to do if the NMEA and/or pps does not come in and if the system clock is significantly different from either the NMEA or pps. A whole day on the lab bench with a scope on both the pps and the N

Re: [ntp:questions] Setting back-up network servers to minpoll 10 automatically when sychronizied to a referrence clock.

2011-07-15 Thread David L. Mills
David, Something like this was done in NTPv3 (xntpd) and it turned out to be a bad idea. The poll interval is determined by the time constant, which for PPS and other low-stratum sources is relatively small. If a backup is switched in at a poll interval much larger than this, it takes awhile

Re: [ntp:questions] Single GPS/PPS time source gets marked as a falseticker

2011-07-15 Thread unruh
On 2011-07-15, David Lord wrote: > Michael Eder wrote: >> Again we are talking effectively what happens. There is a good deal of >> logic what to do if the NMEA and/or pps does not come in and if the system >> clock is significantly different from either the NMEA or pps. A whole day >> on the la

Re: [ntp:questions] Setting back-up network servers to minpoll 10 automatically when sychronizied to a referrence clock.

2011-07-15 Thread David J Taylor
David, Something like this was done in NTPv3 (xntpd) and it turned out to be a bad idea. The poll interval is determined by the time constant, which for PPS and other low-stratum sources is relatively small. If a backup is switched in at a poll interval much larger than this, it takes awhile

Re: [ntp:questions] Single GPS/PPS time source gets marked as a falseticker

2011-07-15 Thread David Lord
unruh wrote: On 2011-07-15, David Lord wrote: Michael Eder wrote: Again we are talking effectively what happens. There is a good deal of logic what to do if the NMEA and/or pps does not come in and if the system clock is significantly different from either the NMEA or pps. A whole day on the

Re: [ntp:questions] Single GPS/PPS time source gets marked as a falseticker

2011-07-15 Thread Michael Eder
I think we are saying the same thing. When the PPS comes in the NMEA value in SHM is that of the previous second. What works great is just the PPS alone (configure only one clock in ntp.conf) and that may be the solution. We can lose GPS but never PPS and we condition the PPS time with the NMEA