[ntp:questions] Motorola Oncore Surveyed Position

2011-09-06 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi all! I configured a Motorola Oncore UT+ unit on a FreeBSD machine using ntpd 4.2.6p3 (ONCORE and SHHMEM enabled during configuration). If any Oncore user could help me I would appreciate. I am running with the following ntp.oncore.0 file oncore# cat /etc/ntp.oncore.0 MODE 2 SHMEM /etc/oncore.

Re: [ntp:questions] Motorola Oncore Surveyed Position

2011-09-06 Thread Terje Mathisen
Miguel Gonçalves wrote: 2. When surveying finishes (ONCORE_SS_DONE) where can I get the surveyed position to save it to /etc/ntp.oncore.0? What is the best procedure? I don't want to survey every time I power up the unit... (the unit has no backup power) Afair the position got written to the lo

Re: [ntp:questions] Motorola Oncore Surveyed Position

2011-09-06 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi Terje! Thanks for your reply. I switched again to mode 4 and started again to see if I missed something. I believe I'll only have to wait 1 seconds = 2 hours and 46 minutes... not much. :-) Unfortunatelly clockstats doesn't show position, only time. I believe this is because it's in posit

Re: [ntp:questions] Motorola Oncore Surveyed Position

2011-09-06 Thread Thomas Laus
On 2011-09-06, Miguel Gon?alves wrote: > I switched again to mode 4 and started again to see if I missed something. I > believe I'll only have to wait 1 seconds = 2 hours and 46 minutes... not > much. :-) > > Unfortunatelly clockstats doesn't show position, only time. I believe this > is becau

Re: [ntp:questions] Motorola Oncore Surveyed Position

2011-09-06 Thread Chris Albertson
There is software that works with the Oncore GPS series. Called ""SynTAC" It is Windows-only but it seems to run on my Linux system under VMware Player. You can place the UT+ into survey mode and set other parameters. It has a graphic Sat. display. The page says the licensee expires in 30 day

[ntp:questions] ntpd keep trying preferred servers?

2011-09-06 Thread Seth Seeger
Howdy! I have the following lines in my ntp.conf (on Debian Lenny): server ext-server-1 prefer server ext-server-2 prefer server 127.127.1.1 fudge 127.127.1.1 stratum 12 I am running in a situation where one or both of the external servers may not be accessible. This machine is serving as a tim

Re: [ntp:questions] Motorola Oncore Surveyed Position

2011-09-06 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi! Thanks for the help! My /etc/ntp.oncore.0 file is this (I disabled SHMEM) MODE 1 LAT 41.1745319 LON -8.6560764 HT 146.72 M HARDPPS #SHMEM /etc/oncore.0 TRAIM YES DELAY 25 NS CLEAR MASK 0 I'm getting one strange thing: oncore# ntpq -p remote refid st t when poll reach

Re: [ntp:questions] garmin 18x and linux

2011-09-06 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Mon, Sep 05, 2011 at 04:47:20PM +, unruh wrote: > On 2011-09-05, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: > > It's from gpsd which seems to make the NMEA receive timestamp after > > the message is processed. > > > Never did understand that. Timestamping the beginning of the sentences > is cheap enough and e

Re: [ntp:questions] garmin 18x and linux

2011-09-06 Thread Greg Hennessy
On 2011-09-06, Chris Albertson wrote: > The OP has an observatory with automated computer controls. I assume > an extra $30 to replace a GPS would not kill him. Put the Garmin 18 > on a boat. That is it's best use. If you want to tell my supervisor why a perfectly good GPS needs to be thrown a

Re: [ntp:questions] ntpd keep trying preferred servers?

2011-09-06 Thread Rolf Muth
Seth Seeger wrote: > When ntpd was started, the external servers were not available, so > ntpd sync'd to itself. Now, the external servers have become > available, but ntpd hasn't noticed. (It's been a few days.) Is there > a way I can tell ntpd to keep checking for the preferred servers? > O

Re: [ntp:questions] ntpd keep trying preferred servers?

2011-09-06 Thread Harlan Stenn
Rolf, What version of ntp are you running? H ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org http://lists.ntp.org/listinfo/questions

Re: [ntp:questions] ntpd keep trying preferred servers?

2011-09-06 Thread Seth Seeger
Thanks Herzliche. Your data confirms the data that I've found since posting the original message. I found this bug: https://support.ntp.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=870 And then I went back and looked at my server logs... it turned out that it failed to find the DNS entry (vs just not reaching t

Re: [ntp:questions] garmin 18x and linux

2011-09-06 Thread unruh
On 2011-09-06, Greg Hennessy wrote: > On 2011-09-06, Chris Albertson wrote: >> The OP has an observatory with automated computer controls. I assume >> an extra $30 to replace a GPS would not kill him. Put the Garmin 18 >> on a boat. That is it's best use. > > If you want to tell my supervisor

Re: [ntp:questions] ntpd keep trying preferred servers?

2011-09-06 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2011-09-06, Harlan Stenn wrote: > What version of ntp are you running? According to the OP's ntpq output in the first message of this thread he is running 4.2.4p* ... the version that ships with Debian "Lenny". -- Steve Kostecke NTP Public Services Project - http://support.ntp.org/ __

Re: [ntp:questions] ntpd keep trying preferred servers?

2011-09-06 Thread Rolf Muth
Harlan Stenn wrote: > Rolf, > > What version of ntp are you running? I have an old desktop with suse 10.(1?) running (rpm -qf /usr/sbin/ntpd) xntp-4.2.0a-70.4 and a laptop, runnig opensuse 11.2 and (rpm -q ntp) ntp-4.2.4p8-0.1.2.i586 HTH -- Herzliche Grüße! Rolf Muth Meine Adressen duerfen n

Re: [ntp:questions] ntpd keep trying preferred servers?

2011-09-06 Thread Harlan Stenn
Rolf, Thanks - sorry I missed some of that info from you previous message. We added initial support for dynamic interfaces in 4.2.4. Numerous bugfixes and improvements have been added since then. I recommend you try the latest -stable code (unless you are up for the latest -dev code, which we b

Re: [ntp:questions] ntpd keep trying preferred servers?

2011-09-06 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2011-09-06, Rolf Muth wrote: > Harlan Stenn wrote: > >> What version of ntp are you running? > > I have an old desktop with suse 10.(1?) running (rpm -qf > /usr/sbin/ntpd) xntp-4.2.0a-70.4 > > and a laptop, runnig opensuse 11.2 and (rpm -q ntp) > ntp-4.2.4p8-0.1.2.i586 Keeping in mind that th

Re: [ntp:questions] ntpd keep trying preferred servers?

2011-09-06 Thread Rolf Muth
Harlan Stenn wrote: > Thanks - sorry I missed some of that info from you previous message. > > We added initial support for dynamic interfaces in 4.2.4. Numerous > bugfixes and improvements have been added since then. > > I recommend you try the latest -stable code (unless you are up for the >

Re: [ntp:questions] ntpd keep trying preferred servers?

2011-09-06 Thread David Woolley
Seth Seeger wrote: remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter == *LOCAL(1).LOCL. 12 l6 64 3770.000 0.000 0.001 rds110.1.3.214 u 538 10

Re: [ntp:questions] garmin 18x and linux

2011-09-06 Thread Greg Hennessy
On 2011-09-06, unruh wrote: > Well, it is actually a $150 dollar unit. $30 for the unit, and $120 for > your time to solder a couple of wires across the board to get the pps > out to the serial port and make a box to house the receiver :-) Why don't the manufacturers provide the PPS signal to th

Re: [ntp:questions] garmin 18x and linux

2011-09-06 Thread David Woolley
Greg Hennessy wrote: On 2011-09-06, unruh wrote: Well, it is actually a $150 dollar unit. $30 for the unit, and $120 for your time to solder a couple of wires across the board to get the pps out to the serial port and make a box to house the receiver :-) Why don't the manufacturers provide t

Re: [ntp:questions] ntpd keep trying preferred servers?

2011-09-06 Thread Harlan Stenn
On 2011-09-06, Rolf Muth wrote: > Harlan Stenn wrote: > >> Thanks - sorry I missed some of that info from you previous message. >> >> We added initial support for dynamic interfaces in 4.2.4. Numerous >> bugfixes and improvements have been added since then. >> >> I recommend you try the latest

Re: [ntp:questions] ntpd keep trying preferred servers?

2011-09-06 Thread Harlan Stenn
On 2011-09-06, Rolf Muth wrote: > Harlan Stenn wrote: > >> Thanks - sorry I missed some of that info from you previous message. >> >> We added initial support for dynamic interfaces in 4.2.4. Numerous >> bugfixes and improvements have been added since then. >> >> I recommend you try the latest

Re: [ntp:questions] garmin 18x and linux

2011-09-06 Thread Chris Albertson
> Why don't the manufacturers provide the PPS signal to the serial port > themselves? Is it meant to be NMEA only? You are thinking that all GPS recievers are only used for NTP. There are many other uses of PPS that do not involve the serial port on a PC. In fact I'd guess that MOST GPS used fo

Re: [ntp:questions] garmin 18x and linux

2011-09-06 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
On 6 September 2011 23:02, Chris Albertson wrote: > > Why don't the manufacturers provide the PPS signal to the serial port > > themselves? Is it meant to be NMEA only? > > If cost is an issue there are even lower priced options then the one > from Sure Electronics. Older Moterola UT+ receivers

Re: [ntp:questions] garmin 18x and linux

2011-09-06 Thread Greg Hennessy
On 2011-09-06, Chris Albertson wrote: > You are thinking that all GPS recievers are only used for NTP. Not exactly. I'm thinking that any GPS receiver that calculatates a PPS that doesn't provide it to the outside has wasted money. If a PPS is provided by a BNC connector instead of a serial port

Re: [ntp:questions] garmin 18x and linux

2011-09-06 Thread Steve Kostecke
On 2011-09-07, Miguel Gonçalves wrote: > The performance is quite impressive: > > oncore# uptime; ntpq -p; ntpdc -c kerninfo > 12:02AM up 2:07, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 > remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter >=